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#1 Paul Bacino

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 05:32 AM

I have seen a few recipes.. Some use Lemons , some use Vinegars, some use buttermilk some used whole milk.

So it appears that different ways exist?

Yesterday i made some for the first time.

2C Heavy Cream
1C 0% Milk
pinch of sugar
pinch of salt
zest of 1/2 lemon and juice ( about 2T )

Cooked to 175 and added acid, let set about 30 mins. drained in a tea cloth, over night.

What I noticed, it didn't drain as well in the tea cloth, this seems more like a cream fresh? Really creamy ( not grainy :rolleyes: but not the curds that i expected. Not hot enough before acid? would be better drained through a cheese cloth?

Doesn't taste bad, maybe a bit lemony. So I'll have to watch where I use it.

Help and what is your go to recipe?
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 06:26 AM

I usually make ricotta from the whey (with the addition of a small amount of milk, half & half or cream) after making mozzarella or cream cheese. But also sometimes make it with whole milk.

I use the recipes shown here.

I prefer using the citric acid as I have found I get a more consistent result than with lemon juice or vinegar.

I buy the "real" cheesecloth, also known as "butter muslin" because it can be washed and re-used numerous times - I wash it by hand but sometimes have stuffed it into a mesh bag and put it through the dishwasher - top rack.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 06:49 AM

I make it from whey only, with no additions other than the lime juice, after making high-fat mozzarella - I've never made it any other way, and I'd actually consider starting with whole milk specifically for the ricotta kind of sacriligeous. I was taught that it's re-cheese, and that no other additions should be necessary beyond a clabbering agent.

This said, I'd bet you get higher yeilds starting with milk rather than whey.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:03 AM

I thought ricotta was only made from whey, not whole milk. It sounds like you're making something more like paneer.

Incidentally, when I make paneer, I use yoghurt to curdle the milk. I simply leave it out the fridge to sour a bit. The result is a higher yield of paneer and it tastes better. No lemony taste for a start! I also bring the milk to a boil. Once it's boiled, I turn the heat right down, add the yoghurt and stir gently. As soon as it goes, I strain it. I was told that keeping it too hot once you've added the acid (lemon juice, vinegar, sour yoghurt) can result in tough curds. Btw, if you use lemon juice, rinse the curds gently after straining.

Edited by Jenni, 31 March 2012 - 08:06 AM.


#5 Paul Bacino

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:57 AM

Besides..on-line

Where might I find Citric Acid..Locally

What Rennets do you all use for the Mozzarella ?

Paul

Edited by Paul Bacino, 31 March 2012 - 09:01 AM.

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#6 FrogPrincesse

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:10 AM

I make whole-milk ricotta regularly. I use the recipe from Ricki Carroll's Home Cheese Making. Obviously this is different from traditional ricotta which is made from the whey.

1/2 gallon whole milk (I use organic milk from Trader Joe's)
1/2 teaspoon citric acid
1/2 teaspoon salt
Heat to 185 - 195F in a large pot, without boiling
Let stand covered for 10 minutes
Drain in cheesecloth for 20 min (I use a synthetic cheesecloth that can be washed afterwards).

It's probably a good idea to buy some citric acid so you can make a neutral-tasting ricotta, instead of using lemon or vinegar. Regarding local sources, where are you located?

Also try making it using whole milk instead of heavy cream.

#7 Jenni

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:17 AM

Besides..on-line
Where might I find Citric Acid..Locally


Try South Asian and Middle Eastern grocery stores, it will be very cheap there.

#8 Paul Bacino

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:43 AM

Elise,

I live in Omaha, Nebraska.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:59 AM

I would check places that sell winemaking supplies like this one (first one that came up with a google search, but I am sure there are others).

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:11 AM

Do any of the markets in your region have a section for kosher foods? You can usually find citric acid there labeled "Sour Salt"

If you don't have access to non-homogenized milk (cream top) it is not always easy to make cheese of any kind with the now "regular" ultra-pasteurized milk. The curd won't form firmly.

You can add a small amount of calcium chloride to the milk which makes it more ready to form nice, firm curds which separate readily from the whey. You can also get it from New England Cheesemaking Supply along with the liquid animal rennet - I buy almost all of my supplies from NECS. (at the link in my first post)

Got a cheese press here which you don't need unless you want to make "aged" cheeses but I now use it for forming ricotta salata, soft cheeses that get "aged" a few days. I have a larger one but haven't made hard cheeses for a while.

Edited by andiesenji, 31 March 2012 - 11:12 AM.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 12:29 PM

Okay, just got an email from a guest lurker who reminded me that I referred her to this
Ricotta recipe a couple of years ago and it works perfectly and is easy for the novice.

At that time I advised her to save the remaining liquid in the fridge and use it in bread and she says it does wonders for her sourdough and the "Bohemian" rye she makes weekly.

I don't know why I didn't think of it. I have had the recipe in my "standards" folder on card stock laminated with plastic, for several years.

It does not have any "lemony" flavor and doesn't require any ingredients that are difficult to find.

Edited by andiesenji, 31 March 2012 - 12:30 PM.

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#12 IndyRob

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 01:52 PM

Besides..on-line

Where might I find Citric Acid..Locally


I got mine from cheesemaking.com, but I've read that citric acid is available in pharmacies. I decided to try a search on CVS.com. No obvious hits, but there was one intriguing result. It appears that Alka Seltzer is Citric Acid + Baking Soda + Aspirin. I don't think I'd recommend it, but I find the idea humorous. You might ask your local pharmacist if they have any just plain citric acid.

Kmart.com also has citric acid listed under their crafts section.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 04:20 PM

Not that I've made ricotta yet, but I have purchased citric acid in the baking section of the supermarket here. It was next to the baking powder and cream of tartar.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 10:19 PM

A couple weeks ago, I took a ricotta-making class from Rosetta Costantino (My Calabria cookbook). Her recipe is made from whole milk with a little cream--She emphasized, not ultrapasteurized cream. RC developed this recipe to duplicate the rich ricotta her parents made on their farm in Calabria. It's not made from whey. An adapted recipe is on the Saveur website. The original recipe is in her cookbook. In RC's recipe, the milk is cooled to 100 F before adding rennet. An ice bath for the milk mixture will bring the temp down faster.
http://www.saveur.co...Ricotta-At-Home

This makes a delicious, curdy ricotta. The tricky part, I think, is how you stir the curds after you've coagulated the milk mixture with rennet. After breaking up the coagulated milk mixture, Rosetta gently stirred the mixture with a skimmer (like this one http://www.amazon.co...33252418&sr=1-7 ), very slowly, in one direction. Someone said it was like herding the curds into a single mass, encouraging them to hang out together--if that description helps at all.

You might consider buying rennet for your cheesemaking. Animal rennet will last a year in the fridge, and if it's double-strength, you'll need only a little to coagulate a big pot of milk. Ricotta draining baskets aren't necessary, though when you upend the basket-drained cheese on a platter, it sure looks attractive and professional. Cheesemaking.com ( http://www.cheesemaking.com/ ) sells rennet and baskets. (For people in the SF Bay Area, this store sells rennet and cheesemaking baskets, etc. at about the same prices: http://www.oakbarrel.com/ . )

#15 Paul Bacino

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 09:49 AM

Thanks everyone!!

Easter is a short week away , and I'm hoping to get this made before then.

Cheers Paul
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#16 Paul Bacino

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 07:24 AM

I went to the Cheesemaking Company and got some stuff.

I went with Vegetable Rennet ( DS )--I went with one pt ( but looks like it will be shared with my friends -- doesn't take much ), Citric Acid too.

Thanks

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#17 kellytree

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:35 PM

Ricotta --- boiled again

Make cheese (remember that if you use sheep's milk you will get a lot more ricotta than if you use cow's milk --- use goat's milk and you will get about nothing --- It takes about 6 liters of sheep's milk to make 1 kg of cheese - 10 kg of cow's milk to make 1 kg of cheese and 15 liters of goats milk to make 1 kg of cheese (this is all more or less, but you get the idea - sheep milk makes lots more cheese than cow or goat milk cheese - same story for ricotta)

Strain the whey to get rid of all the leftover clumps of cheese

Put the whey on a burner and give it a good stir.

(if you want more ricotta - but this is cheating- add a glass of milk)

now leave it and heat slowly - don't touch it --- do not touch it. Let it be.

Heat slowly --- try to heat it too quick and you will burn your pot.

The ricotta will start to surface --- don't do anything --- and do not bring it to a bubbly boil.

As soon as you see the ricotta "break" (meaning -- the surface looks all white and then you hear a BLOOPP and the surface cracks)

Shut off the burner

Leave it for about 5 minutes

Carefully - very carefully - skim the ricotta off the top and put it in a ricotta basket (or something similar) to drain.

and that's it.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:58 PM

Hmmm, I'm wondering whether ricotta can be made from the whey left after draining yogurt.  I have a bunch of whey in the fridge that I might try this on.


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