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#1 Betts

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Posted 19 November 2003 - 10:52 PM

Do you think that the people who get so wrapped up in their espresso can taste the nuances of great tea? Or do you think that the two beverages appeal to entirely different personalities? Can you truly love tea and also be passionate about coffee?

I'm of the tea persuasion.

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Posted 19 November 2003 - 11:08 PM

I love tea, drink it everyday all day, but I also like my daily espresso.
I swing both ways :biggrin: Beveragewise that is.
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#3 beans

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Posted 20 November 2003 - 07:31 AM

tea :wub:
coffee :wub:

I absolutely adore both.

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Posted 20 November 2003 - 04:02 PM

With proper exposure to quality fresh tea and the right preparation techniques, I suspect I could become a convert but the intensity of a good espresso would still keep pulling me back in....

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Posted 20 November 2003 - 04:06 PM

This seems similar to the Beatles or Rolling Stones question. I'm a fan of both. Same goes for coffee and tea.

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Posted 20 November 2003 - 08:06 PM

This seems similar to the Beatles or Rolling Stones question.


Soooo.... which one is the bright, happy, dreamy and mystical pop oriented beverage and which one draws its strength from the dark side?

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Posted 20 November 2003 - 08:33 PM

I'd probably only drink coffee but I'm trying to drink tea also because of the purported health benefits. Of course I've probably never had good tea; similarly to most of the coffee I've drunk in my life that has been mediocre to (mostly) abominable; so I've thought of both of them as something I endure because they're both a caffeine delivery system rather than something that I consume for the taste or enjoyment thereof.
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#8 jhlurie

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Posted 20 November 2003 - 09:49 PM

Tea... although not religiously--only when the need for a warm drink presents itself.

Owen, have we taken an official position on Hot Chocolate here yet? Hot Cider? Or do you have to duke that out with Jason and his "Soft Drinks", which does apparently include Juices at a minimum? :biggrin:
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Posted 20 November 2003 - 11:29 PM

i drink both, however coffee has an advantage for me-i can drink it on an empty stomach. bonus points to the one who can clue me to the chemical in tea that makes me sick at my stomach!
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Posted 21 November 2003 - 08:31 AM

Tea only. With breakfast, with snacks, with "afternoon tea," after dinner.

Oddly, the only coffee I can stand to drink is Taster's Choice instant, which makes me no coffee-drinker.

Luckily I married another tea-drinker who, even more coffee-averse than me, cannot even stand the smell of coffee. We have no coffee or coffee-maker in then house. My husband's parents have been known to leave our house for Starbucks and return after they have their coffee fix.

I'm sure people can love both tea and coffee. It's a bit like cat-people and dog-people, right?

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Posted 21 November 2003 - 08:49 AM

I'm in the both tea and coffee camp. Lately, its been tea in the morning at home and coffee in the afternoon, out. Its a lot easier to find good coffee away from home even here in DC, which has several excellent tea houses. Tea is easier on my system, but the caffeine in it stays with me longer.

I do love a good cup of hot cider on a cold day, especially outside -- but it does nothing for my caffeine addiction.

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Posted 21 November 2003 - 04:13 PM

This seems similar to the Beatles or Rolling Stones question.


Soooo.... which one is the bright, happy, dreamy and mystical pop oriented beverage and which one draws its strength from the dark side?

The Beatles are definitely tea; The Stones are coffee - black, no sugar.

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Posted 22 November 2003 - 11:42 AM

I drink both tea and coffee and enjoy both-
Yes, it is definitely possible to develop a discriminating pallette for tea.
There are many varieties of tea-oolong/green/black or red tea/white/pu-erh tea/scented/herbal

I have been drinking tea for the past 2 years and have broaden my knowledge base as well as my taste buds-

so many countries and types to choose from-

if any one would like some suggestions on on to begin your tea experience-
bibliography, online wbsites-etc
i would be happy to share my knowlege-
just ask

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Posted 22 November 2003 - 12:53 PM

For bibliography, I'd point you to the writing of J. Norwood Pratt... the Tea Lover's Treasury came out a year or two ago in a new second edition (I've only got the first ed myself, and it was good... the 2nd is New & Improved, or so they say...) Available here... don't know if it is general distribution... Amazon doesn't seem to carry it.

Good guide to tea and the stories and history behind it. Were they still doing it, I'd suggest subscribing to Adagio Teas Tea Horizons tea-of-the-month club... they used to send around a wonderful variety of really rare and unusual teas every month... they sent about 5 oz per month, one each of five different teas.

They discontinued the club a year or so ago... don't know if they've restarted it. I'd certainly go in for something like that again if somebody out there were doing it.

PS: I'm a coffee-home-roasting espresso fiend too... I see no fundamental clash in liking both tea and coffee... I just gravitiate to opposite extremes... I love light oolongs, pouchongs and white teas... the only coffee I drink regularly is espresso.

Edited by cdh, 22 November 2003 - 12:57 PM.

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Posted 22 November 2003 - 05:05 PM

i would suggest reading the following sites:
www.thefragrantleaf.com
www.imperialtea.com
www.specialteas.com
www.uptontea.com
www.holymtn.com

and this very informative page
http://pages.ripco.net/~c4ha2na9/tea/

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Posted 22 November 2003 - 06:01 PM

I'd probably only drink coffee but I'm trying to drink tea also because of the purported health benefits.

Drink cocoa instead. It contains more antioxidants and phenolic phytochemicals than either tea or wine.
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 10:41 PM

I drink both, but primarily tea, I find more relaxing. I do get this coffee
called Passion Cafe. It's organic, and they have unusual flavors, licorice,
hot spice, my favorite is called the Napoleon Blend, chocolate and
lavender, and I DO think it's an aphrodisiac! Best coffee I've ever had.
If anyone is interested I have the owners phone number. He sent me 6
bags of different flavored beans. No wonder I'm on the web so late. :laugh:

#18 Rajesh.Sharma

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Posted 28 November 2003 - 05:20 PM

I enjoy both. Coffee in the morning and tea in the afternoon. I usually have drip coffee and tea-bag tea on weekdays but on weekends I try to brew different varieties of loose-leaf tea. Good coffee machines / grinder require too much of an investment for me to try something fancy at home with coffee other than a bodum french press.

Last week I was in Chinatown in San Francisco with my wife and decided to visit the Imperial Tea Court (Broadway & Powell) We sampled a fine oolong tea prepared in the gongfu style. The best tea I have ever had! From there we headed to Cafe Greco (Columbus & Vallejo) which is just a 3 minute walk from the Imperial Tea Court. Excellent cappuccino made with illy beans. It was pretty amazing that one could taste best of both these beverages within blocks of each other.
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Posted 28 November 2003 - 05:28 PM

I am more of a coffee drinker but I do enjoy both. It really depends on my mood and what else I am eating/snacking on.
I can not drink coffee after about 3:00 in the afternoon or it makes me dizzy and nauseous.

I drink a wide variety of types as well, yesterday I had some chai (with cardamom, cinnamon nad cloves), I started this morning with some genmai-cha and am about to go heat up the espresso machine.

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 10:29 AM

I enjoy both.

I like the smell of my Cafe du Monde (with a dash of cinnamon added to the grounds) brewing away in the morning and my Vanilla Almond tea steeping away at my desk as soon as I sit down in the mornings.

My day gets all outta whack if I can't have both. :rolleyes:
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Posted 01 December 2003 - 10:37 AM

I drink both. Actually, I am a fiend for any hot beverage.

I rarely drink coffee at home because Rachel hates coffee and it only gets prepared if I -really- want it and am committed to drinking an entire pot (or want ice coffee for later) or if guests are over and we can prepare an entire pot. Otherwise, we drink tea at home. In winter months we brew at least a pot or two a day. In the cases when I am consulting or working away from home and I am at someone else's office, I drink coffee.

At restaurants or when we are out, I drink coffee and espresso. When we're at Barnes and Noble and if they have one of those cafes, I like a good hot caramel cider or a hot chocolate. At asian restaurants I drink tea, copiously.
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Posted 01 December 2003 - 10:43 AM

Do you think that the people who get so wrapped up in their espresso can taste the nuances of great tea? Or do you think that the two beverages appeal to entirely different personalities? Can you truly love tea and also be passionate about coffee?

I'm of the tea persuasion.

Betts

I think that is like saying people who are passionate red wine can discern the differences in a white wine.

I also think that taste is subjective. I keep going to wine tastings where I realize a lot of folks taste things differently than I do. It doesn't mean that I'm right or they are, just that a human beings' taste buds differ.

I like real liquids - in that, I mean, I drink a lot of wine, coffee, tea, juice, and milk. I don't drink sodas or other soft drinks. At any given time, in my house, you will find several dozen types of tea, at least half-a-dozen different kinds of coffee, and hundreds of bottles of wine.

But I don't believe that coffee "kills" taste buds and precludes one from being able to experience a great tea.

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 01:12 PM

i drink both, however coffee has an advantage for me-i can drink it on an empty stomach. bonus points to the one who can clue me to the chemical in tea that makes me sick at my stomach!

I have found the same thing and usually I have a cast iron stomach. Tea on an empty stomach though will invariably leave me queasy... I wonder if it is just a case of getting used to it.

Any big tea drinkers have problem drinking tea on an empty stomach?
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Posted 01 December 2003 - 01:15 PM

tea with cream, or plain tea?


when i've got tummy issues tea and toast are old standbys. (usually with cream).

if i've got congestion issues it's tea with lemon.

i've never noticed any nausea one way or the other, but i have also been raised with tea from when i was a kid.

black coffee on the other hand, will give me agita in a heartbeat.

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 01:22 PM

I rarely drink coffee at home because Rachel hates coffee and it only gets prepared if I -really- want it and am committed to drinking an entire pot....

Jason, why don't you get one of those small two-cup presspots or, even cooler, a three-cup vacuum brewer.
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Posted 01 December 2003 - 01:26 PM

Perhaps it depends on the tea? I'm a regular coffee drinker but certain coffees are far more acidic than others. Robust beans and therefore cheap mass market coffees in general tend to have higher caffeine content and be more acidic than arabicas in generals. Sumatran and Indonesian coffees tend to be very low acid and I favor them for that reason.

Interestingly.... when I was forced to make a hospital stay of four a five days a couple years back due to a gastro-intestinal condition, they put me on the BRAT diet for three days. It's intended to have the absolute lowest impact on your system (short of a liquid diet). Consists of banana, rice, applesauce and tea. Small portion of each at every meal and although sweetener and lemon are allowed for the tea, milk/cream is not. They made me wait another full day after that before I was allowed to have coffee. It would indicate that they consider coffee to be more egregious than tea re/the stomach but then again..... the swil that passes for coffee in most hosptials bears little resemblence to real coffee.

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 05:32 PM

I'm with you on the acid part. I can drink tea from green to thick and creamy without any effects on the stomach, while the partner, who grew up drinking plenty of tea (oolongs mostly) can't stomach green teas or Darjeeling’s when he's running on empty. I always chalked it up to acidity and different guts.

While we're doing setups...I guess we fall in the like it both ways (tea and coffee) camp.

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 06:36 PM

We don't need to confess anything about cups and other accoutrements, right?

If you were an Illy espresso cup collector your confession would already long since have been made :wink: (I am not one although I do have favored cups).

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 11:18 AM

I'm sure people can love both tea and coffee. It's a bit like cat-people and dog-people, right?

yes, and tea and dog people are better than coffee and cat people

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Posted 03 December 2003 - 11:21 AM

tea with cream, or plain tea?


when i've got tummy issues tea and toast are old standbys. (usually with cream).

if i've got congestion issues it's tea with lemon.

i've never noticed any nausea one way or the other, but i have also been raised with tea from when i was a kid.

black coffee on the other hand, will give me agita in a heartbeat.

interestingly it is coffee i have digestive issues with. indeed it wouldn't be inaccurate to say that most coffees use me as a vehicle to get from the cup to the septic tank. must be genetic--coffee has this direct laxative effect on my mother as well.