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#91 docsconz

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Posted 15 June 2008 - 09:31 AM

A shower and breakfast awaited us back at the hotel. After we enjoyed some free time, we went to the Radisson Hotel for lunch. I was thrilled with the well done Kayasth cooking of the region. The Kayasths are a sect of Hindus who were influenced culinarily by the Moghul rulers that they closely served. Unlike most Hindus, they eat meat though not beef. Highlights included a rich lamb soup, the best papadams and breads of the trip so far, great dal, stuffed potato, local grilled fish, paneer balls and other great dishes. It was one of my favorite meals of the trip so far.

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Aam Ka Panna Mint based welcome drink. Not overly sweet. Delicious.

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Yakhni Shorba Lamb based soup.

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Tawa Machali Local griddle cooked fish.

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Clockwise from the fish, Malai Kofta Dilkhush - paneer, raisin and spice dumpling with onion and cashew gravy; Dum Ke Aloo - potatoes stuffed with paneer and dried fruits with tomato-onion gravy; Dum Ki Daal - black and yellow lentils simmered over a tandoor; and Subz Miloni - a blend of spinach and seasonal vegetables.

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Parathas, Kulchas and Rotis

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Dahi Bhalla - lentil dumpling with yogurt and tamarind chutney.

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Kesari Rasmalai and Jalebi

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Chef Vivek Bahadur

I would not have guessed that one of the tastiest meals of the entire trip would have taken place at a Radisson Hotel in Varanasi, but it did!
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#92 docsconz

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Posted 15 June 2008 - 09:58 AM

How was the tandoor cauliflower prepared?  It looks almost like a samosa--was it wrapped in something and then put in the tandoor?

You don't by chance have any pictures of sari shops, do you?  I love the vibrant colours and billowing fabrics.  And given your photography skills, I'd love to see what you could do with the subject.  :smile:

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For you, Rona :wink: :smile:

I took these the morning we walked through Varanasi.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 05:37 PM

Later in the afternoon we went back to Varanasi central to take rickshaw rides deeper into the city. The nimble control of the bicycles by the small but strong cyclists was amazing as we rode through a chaos of vehicles and pedestrians miraculously avoiding collision after collision. We dismounted the rickshaws in order to visit a spice market at which I bought saffron and chili powder from Kashmir before remounting them to return to the Ghats.

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Puffed Lotus Seeds - Makana

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Rose Petals

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Sifting Grain

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Turmeric

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Offering Samples of Indian non-sulphered raisins

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Dry Coconuts

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Street Food Stall




The atmosphere of mid-afternoon was totally different from the morning. Fog that had draped the sandbanks of the opposite shore had disappeared leaving the flood plain visible. In addition to buying a few more trinkets, the highlight for me was returning to the river in a boat. I was able to reach into the Ganges and sprinkle its water on my head for additional good karma. The return rickshaw ride indelibly inscribed the energy, perpetual motion, anarchy and cacophony of Varanasi on my memory.

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 03:45 AM

The return rickshaw ride indelibly inscribed the energy, perpetual motion, anarchy and cacophony of Varanasi on my memory.

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Well said :laugh:
These rickshaw drivers are always trying to outdo the stunts and skills of Evel Knievel. I dont think you will forget that experience in a hurry. :smile:

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 07:46 AM

The return rickshaw ride indelibly inscribed the energy, perpetual motion, anarchy and cacophony of Varanasi on my memory.

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Well said :laugh:
These rickshaw drivers are always trying to outdo the stunts and skills of Evel Knievel. I dont think you will forget that experience in a hurry. :smile:

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Though it doesn't really do the frenetic energy justice, this is the best example of that that I have in a photo. This is actually fairly orderly with two clearly defined directions of progress in the road :laugh:

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 07:57 AM

I love the cobbled street in the picture with the cow!

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 06:18 PM

Our farewell dinner from the main body of the tour was held that evening in the hotel’s gardens concurrently with a wedding on the hotel’s grounds. It was quite spectacle. Before dinner we were treated to another cooking demo the highlights of which involved seeing naans and other tandoori breads baked on the sides of the tandoor as well as jelabi making showmanship.
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Baking naan in a tandoor oven They cook very, very quickly.

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Making Jalebi

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Super-Jalebi!

The dinner was fine, though I was made uncomfortable by the mosquitos. Dessert consisted of a western style pineapple birthday cake to honor our tripmate, who had a truly remarkable birthday on the Ganges.
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 07:13 PM

DAY NINE: Monday March 10

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This would be a long day of travel. The day started, however, with a garden walk, during which I discovered that my zodiac tree is a cluster fig tree, a relative of the ficus. The grounds of the hotel are extremely well manicured with a particularly lovely collection of large and colorful dahlias. The hotel grows most of its own produce, all organically, with purified water recycled from their sewage treatment plant. They have a very wide selection of crops.

I completed some purchases at the hotel shops, finished packing and we were off to the airport. On the way, we stopped at a small village where we were led around by a village Brahmin. Once again, the people were extremely friendly, especially the children, most of whom wished to be photographed, though some preferred not to be. Most of the older women refused to be photographed. One woman and her husband who were out working in a field harvesting some greens not only beckoned me to photograph them, they invited me to try my hand at the harvest. Of course I accepted and scythed some of the plants that they were harvesting. I found the scythe to be quite sharp making the work fairly easy for the few moments I spent doing it. That is not to say that the work would remain easy much beyond those few moments as it involved much bending and repetitive motion.

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Julie Sahni and I got involved with a mutual interview with a local journalist. He was there to ask us about our visit to Varanasi as well as to this village, what we thought of life there and what life was like for us. I was wearing a Slow Food t-shirt, which helped me to explain my interest in their methods. I told him that unlike their village co-operative system, farms where I live are generally distinct from each other and often specialize in specific crops or produce. Although they still use ancient methods and techniques in this village, the biggest recent change for them has been the introduction of good modern farm equipment including tractors. Twenty years ago they still had oxen plowing the fields. Our Brahmin guide explained to me why they, as Hindus, worship cows. He said that they worship anything that provides good for them and there are few things that provide as much good as the cows. In addition to their milk, which is a very important part of their diet and the work that cows do in the fields, their dung is critical for fertilization of the soil as well as fuel for cooking and heating. The amazing part, as ubiquitous as the cow dung is around Varanasi and elsewhere in India, is that it is essentially odorless.

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We had a pleasant stay, but we left as we didn’t want to push it making our flight back to Delhi, especially as a few of our trip-mates had to make connections for flights home. We needn’t have worried though as we made it to the airport in plenty of time and the flight turned out to leave an hour and a half late anyway. This caused mild anxiety for one traveler, who would make her connection to Bombay by the skin of her teeth.
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 07:17 PM

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While waiting at the airport, I noticed two men with LowePro camera backpacks just like my own. They had been eavesdropping a bit on us as we had an end-of-trip farewell in the waiting area, so I didn’t feel bad eavesdropping as one of them started going through his photos from Varanasi. They were amazing! I pointed them out to Julie, who noted that one of the reasons the photos were so good was because they seemed to know what to look for in shooting them. Indeed their timing and subjects were wonderful as was the composition of the photos. We struck up a conversation. The two friends were in Varanasi strictly for an advanced photographic expedition and had gone about their business accordingly, using top-notch equipment and having a private guide with their Ghat experience focused entirely on photography. It certainly showed and gave me a good dose of humility.

Our friends bid adieu in Delhi and we boarded a smaller bus to drive to Agra. Leaving two hours or so after we were scheduled to, we made our way into the most horrendous city traffic I have ever seen anywhere. It was pure chaos as the only rules drivers followed were their own, going every which way and mostly ignoring traffic lights when they existed. It took us at least three hours to get out of Delhi, with a number of contributing factors besides the insane congestion. The first was that a car tried to cut in front of us, had to stop suddenly to avoid colliding with a bigger bus in front of them, causing our bus to run into them. This triggered a major argument and debate with neither party, as per Indian custom according to Julie, admitting fault. Although he was not in the wrong, our driver basically broke-down and agreed to give the owner 400 rupees for damages so that we could be on our way.

The other major issue effecting our progress was corruption. We had to stop several times on the way out of Delhi so that the driver could negotiate a bribe with a toll collector to allow us to pass. We eventually made it out and on the way to Agra in Uttar Pradesh. By this time the poor suspension and tight rows of seats began to take their toll on us as we proceeded slowly towards our destination, most of us trying to catch some sleep on the way. Despite our travails, it was an interesting drive, as unique things such as wedding parties would rise up seemingly out of nowhere. We eventually reached the place where we had scheduled a stop for dinner. Of course we were very late, as it was now ten-thirty in the evening by the time we reached the place, an old-fashioned rest stop much like had been the norm a number of years ago in the US before the dominance of the Interstate system. The food was quite mediocre, but welcome.

It was about one o’clock in the morning by the time we arrived at our hotel in Agra, the Taj View. We were all rather grumpy to begin with given the duration and discomfort of our journey, but this was compounded when we arrived in our inferior rooms, the worst of the trip. Not only had they no view of the Taj Mahal, they didn’t have a view of anything else particularly interesting either. We were all tired enough that it would just have to make do.
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 06:36 AM

The return rickshaw ride indelibly inscribed the energy, perpetual motion, anarchy and cacophony of Varanasi on my memory.

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Well said :laugh:
These rickshaw drivers are always trying to outdo the stunts and skills of Evel Knievel. I dont think you will forget that experience in a hurry. :smile:

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Episure,
don't you call the autorickshaw drivers 'the immortals'?

remember the ride we had in Bangalore? At one time I would swear we overtook a jumbo jet taking off from the airport......... I kissed the ground when I got out, and prayed to at least a hundred thousand Hindu Gods, and I'm not even Hindu!! :wacko:

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 03:39 PM

Doc, what a beautiful account this is. The photos throughout are wonderful, and a lot on this page are outstanding...the turmeric and other market photos, the women in the field, and that meal at the Radisson looks really good.

As always when visiting the Asian countries there is the contrast between the beautiful nature and the chaos of the cities; the calm and peaceful faces and those of corruption; the delicious food and the threat that these foods have on our systems (I hope your sugar level regulated itself without much incidence.); the gorgeous colors and pollution smells; the beautiful scenery and the Taj Mahal hotel without a view (!). These contrasts have been highlighted so accurately here.

ps Who knew Indian cow manure doesn't smell?

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Posted 18 June 2008 - 04:07 PM

Doc, what a beautiful account this is.  The photos throughout are wonderful, and a lot on this page are outstanding...the turmeric and other market photos, the women in the field, and that meal at the Radisson looks really good. 

As always when visiting the Asian countries there is the contrast between the beautiful nature and the chaos of the cities; the calm and peaceful faces and those of corruption; the delicious food and the threat that these foods have on our systems (I hope your sugar level regulated itself without much incidence.); the gorgeous colors and pollution smells; the beautiful scenery and the Taj Mahal hotel without a view (!).  These contrasts have been highlighted so accurately here.

ps Who knew Indian cow manure doesn't smell?

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Thank you, Shaya. India is indeed a land of contrasts. A fascinating place, it is both extremely welcoming and forbidding at the same time.
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 05:08 PM

DAY TEN: Tuesday March 11

We arrived with such haste earlier in the morning that plans for the day were not well described. I decided that I would not risk any question of getting to the Taj Mahal that I would be ready for any eventuality and arose at 7AM. Breakfast was much like the other hotels with a mediocre buffet and eggs and dosas made to order. I tried a sampling of a variety of items including a dosa masala and scrambled eggs masala, some fruit and a few different beverages. The food wasn’t terrible, though nothing particularly stood out other than the red carrot juice that was rather tasty and the coffee which was also very good. I was the first down to breakfast, but the others from the group slowly started trickling in. It was determined that we would meet at 9:30 to go to see the Taj Mahal. The word apparently made it to everyone but a couple of members of the group, who discovered the plan only as were readying to set off. Because one wasn’t ready they would stay behind.

The largest vote-getter in the recent internet selection process to determine the Seven Wonders of the Modern World, The Taj Mahal, a mausoleum built by the Moghul Emperor Shah Jahan to honor his favorite wife, Mumtaz Mahal, proved a wonder of perspective in addition to its sheer beauty. The Shah had planned to build an identical mausoleum in black marble directly across the river, but before he could do so his throne was usurped by his son and he spent his last eight years holed up as a prisoner in a palace in the Agra Fort built a century earlier by his ancestor Akbar. From his prison cell, he was able to gaze at the Taj Mahal, as it lay directly in his view.

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A herd of water buffalo walking by the entrance to the Taj Mahal


Once we parked, we had to leave all but our camera and pocket items in the bus and take a separate electric bus closer to the site. We passed security and entered a courtyard in front of a red sandstone ante-building, through the portals of which we had our first view of this true wonder. Once we passed through the sandstone building, the Taj stood in front of us in its full glory. Unfortunately, the sky was gray and overcast rather than brilliant blue, however, the good news was that the temperature was quite comfortable rather than the searing heat of a few days earlier. I earlier mentioned that the Taj is a marvel of perspective. It was built in such away that the sides of the mausoleum itself and its flanking minarets took parallax into account so that it looked perfectly straight when viewed from a distance. We had our photos taken individually and as a group standing in front of the Taj. They were ready by the time we returned awhile later and I wound up buying a few as they were pretty good.

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Another wonderful element of the morning was looking at and admiring the other visitors. Many of the Indians visiting were wearing their finest clothes. The colors of the saris were particularly vibrant. While we were determining where and when to meet, I spied some people a few yards away from us having their photos taken. I determined that the striking black woman was none other than Serena Williams, who had just come from winning a tennis tournament in Bangalore.

Built in the 17th century over twenty four or so years, the Taj Mahal was truly remarkable and as impressive a feat of architecture and construction as I have ever seen, however, the experience of being there lacked the emotional and spiritual impact of places like Macchu Picchu or the sunrise over the Ganges with the light of the sun spilling over the multitudes pouring themselves into their sacred river. Although infinitely more beautiful, the experience was similar to viewing Versailles; awe and majesty rather than a primal release.

As we were leaving, I was approached by a hawker selling some wooden cobras. I saw them on the way in and thought that the boys would get a kick out of them so we bargained and I obtained them for a satisfactory price. The problem was that once the other hawkers noticed some interest, we were bombarded until we made it back to the electric bus.
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 11:36 PM

Totally loving this. I returned two days ago from three months living in mostly Southern India and I am already getting really nostalgic. Especially for fish molee and tandoori gobi!

I consider rickshaws and rickshaw drivers to be the Spawn of Satan, but I was relying on them for primary transportation as I am 19 and very poor. Basically, they like overcharging you. A lot. And ogling you if you are female.

Did you try meen pollichathu? (fried fish wrapped in banana leaf.) That was one of my absolute favorite Kerala dishes....I wonder how many good Kerala restaurants there are in the USA...?

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 01:37 PM

Totally loving this. I returned two days ago from three months living in mostly Southern India and I am already getting really nostalgic. Especially for fish molee and tandoori gobi! 

I consider rickshaws and rickshaw drivers to be the Spawn of Satan, but I was relying on them for primary transportation as I am 19 and very poor. Basically, they like overcharging you. A lot. And ogling you if you are female.

Did you try meen pollichathu? (fried fish wrapped in banana leaf.) That was one of my absolute favorite Kerala dishes....I wonder how many good Kerala restaurants there are in the USA...?

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Welcome back! The meen pollichathu sounds great! There is a South Indian restaurant near where I live. While I had thought it excellent before my trip, unfortunately it pales since.
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Posted 19 June 2008 - 02:59 PM

From the Taj, we made our way to view a demonstration of the techniques of marble inlay that were used in the construction of that monument. The work of creating this dying art was quite fascinating. Of course, they had their wares to display. While not inexpensive, the pieces were absolutely beautiful. I managed to restrain myself to a lotus blossom of dark green marble with inlays of semi-precious stones including carnelian, turquoise, malachite, mother of pearl, onyx and others.

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After a quick stop back at the hotel to drop off our purchases and to freshen up we were off to a cooking demonstration and lunch at the Colonel Lamba Indian Home Stay Guest House.

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The guest house belongs to Colonel Lamba and his wife. He is retired from the Indian Army. Being Sikhs, they treated us to a demonstration and lunch of Sikh cooking. The food was vegetarian. They demonstrated the technique of preparing a northern style curry by frying their spices first. They also showed us how to make chapatti’s, a whole wheat Indian bread, by pre-cooking the tortilla like rounds on a griddle than finishing them by quickly putting them directly onto the flame before removing them almost immediately thereafter as they puffed up. Other dishes prepared included a raita with yogurt, cauliflower and cumin, potato with capsicum, a vegetable pilaf with basmati rice, dal with rajmah red beans from Kashmir, Malai Koftas or cottage cheese balls like we have had previously. Though not part of the demonstration lunch commenced with an amazingly good tomato-vegetable soup. The delicious lunch also included delicately delicious papadams and a special dessert of candied bitter melon. The overall experience was marvelous and one of the better meals of the trip.

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Raita

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Cauliflower with Cumin

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Vegetable Pilaf with Bsmati Rice

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Dal with Rajmah Red Beans from Keshmir

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Candied Winter Melon

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Colonel Lamba


Some of the group peeled off while the rest of us were taken to see the Agra Fort where Shah Jahan was imprisoned by his son. Though we were too late to enter the fort, a few of us walked along outside its walls to the point where we could view Jahan’s prison as well as the Taj Mahal. On the way back to the bus, a small group of children asked for their photo to be taken. It has been amazing to me how friendly the Indian children have been and more so how much they enjoy being photographed, the only reward being a quick view of the photo on the view finder! It has been fun and refreshing, though a few times a little scary as the groups of enthusiastic children would quickly swell and become somewhat difficult to handle in their enthusiasm.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 08:58 AM

That bowl of candied melon is striking!

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 10:00 AM

beautiful beautiful pictures...you have actually made me want to travel to India. As I am a picky eater, everything looks fabulous.

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 08:17 AM

Doc, once again you have managed to take us with you on your delightful travel to India. What wonderful, stunning colors, like those candied melons, the soft, translucent airiness of the Taj Mahal, the organized chaos of a busy street. Thank you, thank you, maraming salamat. Please don't stop travelling ... and eating.
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Posted 21 June 2008 - 03:58 PM

Dear Doc,

Great travelogue. As you wrote, the CIA/World of Flavors tours was a way to get your toes into the water. However, (and this is not a criticism, but an observation that could be used by you and others in the future if so desired) it appeared to me that your group's eating excursions were severely circumscribed. Many "iconic" elements, not just restaurants were left unaddressed.

This could be attributed to many factors (and I am just guessing here):

1. Time and scheduling difficulties

2. The season of the year in some places; winter might have been nicer: Nov-Feb.

3. Commitments by the tour organization to various institutional actors, e.g. the catering institute and the big hotels

4. The comfort zone of many participants presumed by the tour organizers: hence their omitting food experiences like grazing the Night Market at Jama Masjid in Delhiculminating in a dnner at Karim's. Both define an iconic "food experience" of tha city. It takes a thoughtful and experienced guide, someone of the caliber of Mr. Vinod Dua.

If the tour organizers were going top class, and it seems they were cutting corners on esentials like guides and buses, then thes aspects should have received conscientious scrutiny. I am not criticizing, but suggesting ways to improve the experience, since it seems that India is receiving a lot of positive exposure through your posts.

In the past I have been able to help a few members of this forum and elsewhere enhance their pleasure in their travels to India Tha is my only aim, and joy. Any names I mention have no connection with me, and indeed, detest me for the most part. Therefore, I feel very comfortable recommending them in the strongest posible terms!!

If you were to visit India in the future, and I sggest this to a who might be enthused by your reports, consider stepping out ofthe 5-Star bubble in which you were imprisoned. You will meet a vibrant an delicious India, without the hassles you mention. First let me recommend two people who are food nuts and experienced food travelers in India who wouldmak idea tour guides for small groups of people. They are not into the "business", so they are not beholden to special interests, no tie-ups, no back-scratching that led to such a mediocre tour, foodwise [IMO, considering the money spent].

One is the chef-owner of a small restaurant in Portland, OR. He recentl spent a good while in India and is raring to go. Dn't kow if he has the time. Here is a US native with a keen apprecition of what would bug a Newcomer, what woud be aprropriae or not, andhe would be keenly live to the sensitivities ofan merican traeing group, their fears, torments, special needs. You lost out on so may special bars even in the great hotels you visited. Read this gentleman's blog he happens to be an eGulleteer! Check out his Portland cafe and speak to him in persn, those of you who may be in that area, to sound him out in this matter:

http://pleasuremount...2007/09/page/6/
http://pleasuremount...page/7/?s=Delhi

Here's Jim confounded as you were, by the great Bukhara rip-off:
http://pleasuremount...page/8/?s=Delhi

Karim's: http://pleasuremount...page/9/?s=Delhi

Many ofthe iconic restaurants, of Delhi, like Swagath, aso were given a complete miss. There are 3 lively websites where India and Indian food is seriously discussed. It is there you will pick up any useful information.

For Delhi restaurant reviews AnotherSubcontinent and GourmetIndia, which also are the major India foodsites. For travel and itinerary advice: Indiatree.

On the later two you will find a gentleman by the name of Sekhar. He is a Hotel and travel professional with impeccable connections in the Indian travel industry, especially the important foodie + electronics powerhouse state of Andhra Pradesh. Besides being a super-expert and food-nut, he is fluent in the languages the languages of North and South India, and comfortale in both the city and rural areas, very, very important qualification.

I could not imagine a better dream team of travel guides to India than Sehar and Jim to lead an American group of, say, 8. Sekhar to do all the bookings and accomodations, trasport and other "Indian" asects of the tour, Jim to worry about taking care of the visitors' other needs. Both to involve themselves with the food!!!

These two have entry into kitchens of India that Ms. Sahni can never even imagine, and can deliver an all round experience ofIndia from shopping to cooking that would be beyond the capacity of any of the big names associated with "Indian cooking" in the USA today. Each is a master chef in his own right. Plus their fluency in regional cuisnes of particular areas is unparalled.

Please take a look at the market scene below, paying special attention to the butcher:

http://pleasuremount...page/6/?s=Delhi

Mian Mohammed Qureshi is perhaps the last of a long line of master butchers. His sons probaly will not fllw in their father' footsteps. You need to see the many facets of elite Muslim Meat Science before it is gone for good. Won't see that with the upscale 5-star folk, but Jim can show you that and much, much more! Qureshi Saheb aso happens to be one of the great living gems, a Biryani Master. You won't learn about the nuance of biriyani styles sitting inside that 5-Star bubble.

A few authors have made a great name for themselves in the US by dint of their hard work, their ability to write but also their flair for self-promotion. Not a bad thing at al, as they have done a great service for India, promoting her food and culture. But as you may appreciate, there is no "Indian" food just as there is no "European food". India is as large geographically, and much more diverse than Western Europe. So it is impossible for any one writer to become oracular on matters of "Indian" cooking. Consequently, trips planned by such are a beginning, as you rightly observe. I think "smaller" experts also can bring a great deal to the business. This post is my way of asking them to step into the ring!!

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 05:30 AM

Shelby, Stephanie and Doddie - thank you for your kind comments! Thank you also, V. Gautam for an extremely thoughtful and informed post. I very much appreciate the knowledge and spirit of your post. Should I return to India, I would take your suggestions strongly to heart and indeed I would be looking to fill in the iconic experiences that I missed and clearly there were many. Indeed, breaking out of the 5 star cocoon would be desirable for a number of reasons, though that is not a bad cocoon to have in India, especially for a middle-aged first-time visitor from the US. :laugh:

Was the trip complete? Obviously not. As V. Gautam rightly pointed out there was so much that we missed, but how, in a country like India, is it possible to do much more in the period of time that we had with as much traveling as we did? The trip provided an excellent overview, an introduction to India, that could really do little more than skim the surface of what is there. That is not to say that the trip or its organizers were beyond reproach or things could not have been better. By the time I finish this travelogue, I hope to be clear about what was superb and what was disappointing or worse about this trip. Nevertheless, we were exposed to quite a bit. One thing that was evident, though was that Julie Sahni has the connections to get into some interesting situations and places. She does her own focused small group tours that I would expect would be along the lines of what V.Gautam was describing. While the recommendations that V.Gautam provided for setting up a trip to India are undoubtedly superb and extremely enticing, I wouldn't hesitate to return with Ms. Sahni on one of her focused trips either.

I appreciate the links to the Pleasure Mountain blog. They are absolutely worth visiting for anyone interested in this topic. I would have loved to visit the market in Delhi that Jim visited. Delhi was a city that we literally passed through because we had to in order to get to the northern destinations from the south. That was really the only place that our guide was bad as well as the scene of most of my negative experiences. Clearly, not much attention was given to visiting this city (ironically the city where Ms. Sahni grew up), but given how little time we spent there and how difficult it appears to get around in, I'm not sure that was the wrong approach for this trip. I would, however, like to return to Delhi and spend more time and get a sense of the depth of the city along with some iconic experiences as you described. Bukhara was a disappointment and I fully agree with Jim's assessment, but I am glad that we went. If we had not, given its reputation, I would have felt cheated! :laugh:
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Posted 22 June 2008 - 06:34 AM

Dinner was on our own. A few people went over to the Oberoi, while others went out for street food. I stayed at the hotel and joined a couple of fellow travelers for dinner. We shared a few dishes including a chef’s special of grilled prawns with vegetables, chicken biryani - I very much wanted to try this north Indian specialty before we left and I would not otherwise have the chance- and minced lamb kebobs. It was all quite good, with the prawns, especially delicious.

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Grilled Prawns with Vegetables

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Minced Lamb Kebabs

The next day would be an early start and I still had to pack, so I called it a night.
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Posted 22 June 2008 - 07:09 AM

DAY ELEVEN: Wednesday March 12

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We would be off on another long bus ride as we headed for Jaipur, the final leg of our trip, however a few of us wished to revisit the Taj Majal at sunrise. Julie made arrangements for us to do so. While the sky remained overcast and we did not have the spectacular sunrise that we enjoyed at Varanasi, the effect was still startling. The early light provided more definition, while the call to prayer of the muezzins and the bells of the temples provided the atmosphere. A relative dearth of visitors allowed for a more peaceful and leisurely visit, creating a more emotionally charged environment. On our return walk we passed by numbers of monkeys cavorting along the paths leading away from the Taj. They appeared playful and cute until one approached too close for the mother’s comfort level at which point she became threatening. It didn’t happen to me, but a mother did threaten several members of our group, making us all jump away and fortunately laugh!

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Once back at the hotel, I ate a quick breakfast of western style fried eggs and toast for a change of pace as well as the fact that the breakfast at the Taj View as well as most every other aspect of the hotel was the worst of the trip. I was packed and ready to go and had time to kill before we left so I went back to the hotel shops. I had been eyeing these beautiful red camel skin slippers, but hadn’t bought them because I wasn‘t sure of how they would fit my wife. Knowing that I liked them, that I would be leaving, and eager to make a sale, the shopkeeper gave me a price that I could not refuse. He made me promise not to tell anyone the price, but I would later discover that one of my fellow travelers had paid twice the price that I had for similar slippers at the same shop! Later on in Jaipur I would pay even less for two pairs of similar shoes!

The bus ride to Jaipur in the neighboring state of Rajasthan was helped by a couple of things compared to the ride from Delhi to Agra. First, we had a new bus that was newer and significantly more comfortable. Secondly, the roads were much better and lastly, being daytime, we were able to watch the changing scenery unfold. While old India was still very much present with villages, water buffalo, goatherds and camel driven carts, there was evidence of impending change as new, modern roads were being constructed. With much of the property alongside these roads having been bought, it will likely not be long before the quaint village scenes become a thing of the past.

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Street Market from the bus

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Lunch tiffins for agricultural field workers

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The workers

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Camel Cart along the road to Jaipur


Approximately halfway through the trip, we stopped for lunch at a place much like the one we stopped at on the way down from Delhi, only this one, called Mahua, had really excellent food. In addition to the typically good dal and breads including a local specialty called bati made with flour and yogurt and baked in ashes, other standouts included goat Kashmiri in a wonderful red sauce made with kashmiri chili in addition to other ingredients, cauliflower with sweet red carrots originally from Uzbekistan, okra with onions and garlic, paneer with peas and finally samosas, all of which made for a colorful and beautiful as well as delicious plate. Desserts were also good, including a vanilla ice milk and halvah made from cream of wheat, simple syrup, almonds and raisins with just the right degree of sweetness. I finished my meal with a satisfying chai masala.

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Samosas

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Bati

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Cauliflower and Uzbekistani Red Carrots

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Dal

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My Plate

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Halvah


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Posted 22 June 2008 - 08:44 AM

boringly repetitive Doc but your photography is outstanding for its clarity and composition, appreciate the time you have sacrificed to allow us to be participants on your trip....you must have sacrificed some enjoyment for us,... thanks...

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 09:07 AM

boringly repetitive Doc but your photography is outstanding for its clarity and composition, appreciate the time you have sacrificed to allow us to be participants on your trip....you must have sacrificed some enjoyment for us,... thanks...

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Thanks, but I find doing this enjoyable in its own right. :smile:
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Posted 22 June 2008 - 09:30 AM

Back on the bus, our journey continued deeper into Rajasthan, the landscape changing from lush farmland to more arid. Ironically, it rained part of the way. During the ride, Julie told us more about the changing face of India. She discussed the breaking down of caste barriers, evolving roles of women, the culture of village life, the tolerance of a variety of religions within secular India, the place and cost of graft necessary to get things done and the food culture and specialties of Rajasthan.

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The ride was one of the more harrowing of the trip, however, as we had several near-miss accidents, including one during which we moved on to the shoulder of the road. Since the shoulder sloped away from the road we angled over to our left, briefly feeling as if we would roll over onto that side. The driver was able to keep us righted as we quickly moved back on to the regular road surface. The reason for so many scares is that drivers pass each other indiscriminately with little regard for what may be coming from the opposite direction. The instance I described was the result of one bus passing another, both coming towards us. Other situations arose involving ourselves and/or other vehicles. The number of times automobiles or motorcycles quickly tucked in front of a vehicle they were passing just avoiding collisions were too many to count both today and during the rest of the trip. Given the sheer anarchy of the roads, it is a wonder that there haven’t been more collisions between vehicles as well as between vehicles and pedestrians and/or animals. It is quite fortunate and necessary that the brakes are kept in good repair.

We finally entered Jaipur, a city with the typical contrasts of India. As we entered we saw beautiful old stonework and shabby, decrepit shanties and tents. The city also possessed the energy and vibrancy that I have come to expect in India.

Our arrival at our hotel, The Raj Palace, proved eye-opening. The hotel was truly a palace and is still owned by a Maharaja. The rooms and appointments of this unique property are truly stunning, once again illustrating the extremes of India. Although my own room is one of the most luxurious and finest that I have ever stayed in, it actually pales in comparison to some of the others. This should be a marvelous place to conclude our sojourn in India.

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 10:17 AM

That evening we convened for another cooking demonstration, this time by the hotel’s staff showing us several dishes and techniques including how they use the tandoor for making chicken and naan. Though I wasn’t very hungry, the dinner that followed was amongst the best of trip. The chicken, made without any red coloration, was particularly succulent and flavorful. The dal was also especially delicious.

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Marinating Chicken

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Skewering chicken

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Chicken taken from the Tandoor

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Paneer with vegetables

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Making kebabs and such with a special grill pan

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Amazing naan baked quickly in the tandoor

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The Maharajah chats with Julie


The hotel provided entertainment including drummers, fire swallower and girls performing a native dance showing exquisite balance, strength and grace. One dancer balanced a column of pots on her head while she danced, at one point stepping up on cups in her bare feet. They also invited audience members to come up to dance with them. I did not refuse.

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Posted 22 June 2008 - 10:51 AM

DAY TWELVE: Thursday March 13

Despite the wonderful accommodations, I did not sleep well. I had to get up in the morning to go to the bathroom to discover that part of my discomfort was due to some very loose stool. Fortunately I had some Imodium and took that. The group had been surprisingly free of significant illness, but I was to discover another one of the group shared my discomfort that morning. In addition to the Imodium, another MD on the trip gave me some Levaquin to take. Though I no longer had any pressing issues, I remained feeling less than 100%.

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Fortunately, that was not enough to prevent me going to see the Wind Palace in the old Pink City area of Jaipur nor did it prevent me from going to the Amber Fort in the mountains just outside the city. The latter visit was especially fun as we rode elephants up to the Fort itself. Since Bob’s wife, Ellen did not go, he was my partner on the elephant. The ride itself proved much fun, though my photos were not as good as I had hoped due to the jostling and the overcast sky. In fact, it had rained a little bit as we waited our turn for the elephants.

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Once in the fort, we dismounted from the elephants at a platform. Jai, our guide then proceeded to show us through the palace that was occupied by the Maharajah’s family until 1959. The details still extant within the labyrinth of passages and rooms startled, especially the winter palace with its walls of mirrors. These consisted of a multitude of small convex mirrors inlaid through this part of the palace. The effect, even in daylight, was marvelous. At night with moon and candlelight, it is supposed to be magical.

From the Fort, we made another shopping stop. This one was for rugs, and other textiles. Following the obligatory craft demonstrations we were led into the showrooms. I was able to withstand the lure of the carpets as beautiful as they were, but I did purchase some gifts of scarves and ties.
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Posted 22 June 2008 - 07:49 PM

Lunch was special as we went to the private home of a wealthy, royal-connected family, the Singhs. Their cooks gave a demonstration of cooking several dishes before we sat down with the family for lunch. Before the demonstration and lunch we sat in their parlor surrounded by family photos of people in regal garb as well as some of family members with the likes of Jackie Kennedy Onassis, Prince Charles and Prince Albert. Lunch highlights included crisp-fried okra, spinach and corn and perhaps the best desserts of the trip, including wonderfully light and crispy jalebi and smooth, rich and buttery carrot halvah made with the local red carrots. During lunch, we learned from Mr. Singh that all Sikhs are Singhs, but not all Singhs are Sikhs. He and his family including his daughter are not Sikh.

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Cooking demonstration by the family's chefs in their kitchen

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Buffet Arrangement

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Cole Slaw!

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Spinach and corn

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"Mutton" = Goat

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Dal

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Potatoes with herbs and spices

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Crisp-fried okra

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Sangri (a desert vegetable) with lotus root

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My plate

The daughter is an interesting story and example of an aspect of Indian culture. She had been married, but her husband died early, while she was pregnant with their only child, a daughter. In Indian culture, a wife is often blamed for the death of her husband. Given his early death and the subsequent inauspicious birth of a daughter, she was rejected by her husband’s family and cast out. She was fortunate to be taken back by her father as that is not typical Indian custom. Remarriage is not a common custom within Indian culture. Her daughter has grown and gone on to study law in London.
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Posted 22 June 2008 - 08:14 PM

Wow. That last meal looks just amazing. Ok well all the meals look amazing. I can imagine you are now spoiled and it will take awhile to adjust to the "indian" food available in the States? Then again I remember you living in NY? So maybe not...

A little OT but I think Jaipur is where the movie Kama Sutra was filmed. It looks oddly familiar. I loved that movie btw. I think it was one of the few bollywood movies I've seen without the dancing and interesting *cough* music? :raz: