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#61 BertieWooster

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Posted 06 February 2009 - 11:09 AM

Had a good, if not great, meal at the Star yesterday. COuldn't work out the stuff about the new areas as the restaurant seemed much as it always had--but the place was empty due to the snow, so they maybe were just using the old bit? Mrs W. had an oxtail ravioli which was lovely for a cold evening. My black pudding was over-dry, and they only had a couple of fish dishes (again cos of sup[plies I would assume).

So BUrton is leaving the Black Swan? Not surprised--not quite the right clientele I would't have thought.
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Posted 07 February 2009 - 01:35 AM

My black pudding was over-dry,

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Gary - do you need to have a word with Andrew? That is two of us who found the black pudding signature dish dry

#63 Gary Marshall

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 01:04 AM

Had a good, if not great, meal at the Star yesterday. COuldn't work out the stuff about the new areas as the restaurant seemed much as it always had--but the place was empty due to the snow, so they maybe were just using the old bit? Mrs W. had an oxtail ravioli which was lovely for a cold evening. My black pudding was over-dry, and they only had a couple of fish dishes (again cos of sup[plies I would assume).

So BUrton is leaving the Black Swan? Not surprised--not quite the right clientele I would't have thought.

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it was probably curtained off, it's where the kitchen was before so if you didn't venture out of the restaurant in that direction you wouldn't have seen it, although you can't miss the new kitchen from the outside!
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 07:31 AM

Has the new dining area been in action yet? Still looks very 'showroom condition'. I still wouldn't be suprised if the 'pub' dining room gets a make over, which personally I feel it requires now. As I've said theres just too big a divide in style and comfort. One screams top end restaurant, the other bit a pub. I also wonder, if can I say, boredom possibly started to set in with their set up? Its not a dig at all, I know from first hand experience, things can sometimes get a wee bit tiring, when you've done it day in day out for a long period of time. If that is the case, then I think you have to tread carefully and really think about those people who come through your front door, as well as satisfying your own ambitions.

#65 Gary Marshall

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 09:19 AM

Has the new dining area been in action yet? Still looks very 'showroom condition'. I still wouldn't be suprised if the 'pub' dining room gets a make over, which personally I feel it requires now. As I've said theres just too big a divide in style and comfort. One screams top end restaurant, the other bit a pub. I also wonder, if can I say, boredom possibly started to set in with their set up? Its not a dig at all, I know from first hand experience, things can sometimes get a wee bit tiring, when you've done it day in day out for a long period of time. If that is the case, then I think you have to tread carefully and really think about those people who come through your front door, as well as satisfying your own ambitions.

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i was there one friday night and it was being used as a trial run ahead of it's official opening and it was definitely used new years eve as i tried to book it so i think if the demand is there it is in use, i suspect, but don't know they fill the original one first.
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#66 PhilD

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 12:01 PM

Definately open on the Sunday between Christmas and New Year, both the new and old sections seemed full (as were the function rooms). We ate in both, as we asked to be moved because the old section was far to hot.

I actually think they work really well together with the new bar acting as a natural bridge between the two. I enjoyed eating in both sections, although I felt the food actually worked a bit better in the newer setting - but that could simply have been the heat from from a thermo nuclear radiator that was next to our table. It is nice to have the choice.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 01:53 PM

Wow! :blink: Just read that the Perns have invested £1.3 million with the purchase of the Pheasant, Harome (soon to be Pernome!). Apparently they plan to spend another £500,000 on the refurb.

Credit crunch, what credit crunch! I really take my hat off to them in the way that they certainly put their money where their mouth is. Im just scratching my head as to how they raise such capital in these times? Partners perhaps? Nothing to do with you is it Gary?!!!! I'll have to ask when I next see him. Obviously the Star must turn over zillions a year, so I imagine that must put them in great stead.
Anyway really looking forward to seeing the end result.

#68 Gary Marshall

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 01:18 AM

They just keep on reinvesting, the business must throw off a lot of cash, you can see the piggery has c.90% occupancy & must be generating c.£300k pa. (last time i looked when things like B&B occupancy were on my mind!) obviously not all profit but a good payback on their c.£1m investment.

The pub itself and other accomodation no doubt long ago paid for (and they bought that pre-gastropub boom). Good luck to them, they work very hard at it and do it better than virtually everyone, they should be an inspiration to everyone in the trade, it certainly inspired me as to what you can do.

Edited by Gary Marshall, 24 February 2009 - 01:19 AM.

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 07:57 AM

So are we going see you manning your own bar in another fine pub anytime soon!????????? :wink:

I completely agree they should inspire any 'gastro', restaurant operator with their steadfast dedication to the job in hand. Just hope A.P will keep on cooking at the star and it doesn't sort of become a victim of its own success.

#70 Gary Marshall

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 08:34 AM

So are we going see you manning your own bar in another fine pub anytime soon!????????? :wink: 

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i'm bound by a non-compete at the moment, and i think it would lead to divorce, but hey, let's not rule it out :biggrin:

(coincidentally two years ago last week we sold, the wounds have just about healed)
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 12:30 PM

(coincidentally two years ago last week we sold, the wounds have just about healed)

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:blink: Where have 2 years gone???!!!! I'd have thought you'ld be raring to go by now!!!! :biggrin:
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#72 Gary Marshall

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 12:57 AM

tell me about it! spent a year (well mrs m did) renovating a house and the rest just disappeared, if the recession wasn't here i think i may have hatched another cunning plan by now, but mrs m is naturally quite wary of my cunning plans after the last one saw her working every hour god sent :laugh:
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#73 Gary Marshall

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 07:05 AM

star's new venture the pheasant opens 'april 09' according to an email that's just arrived. Chef apparently peter neville an ex-star chef who's been working at hibiscus.

www.thepheasanthotel.com
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#74 ajnicholls

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 04:31 AM

Just back from the Star. And what a superb trip. Stayed in the rooms and Room 5 is a great place to stay. Can't complain about having a snooker table in your room!

Anyway, to the food. A pre-dinner pint in the pub was a great place to start. Very homely and warm. A read of the menu was causing me great dilemmas. There are few places that I'd eat everything on the menu, but this was definitely the case.
So I went with black pudding and foie gras. I couldn't resist it. And bloody hell, it was good. An amazing combination of flavours and textures. The caramelised apple works as a sweet foil to the rich black pudding and perfectly cooked foie.
The other half went for soft boiled duck egg with a crab and Morcambe bay shrimp sandwich. This was the kind of dish GBM was crying out for. A great sense of humour in the presentation; the egg cup was Humpty Dumpty, and truly did have the taste of home that the brief was all about.

Mains rate amongst the best things I've eaten in a restaurant in a good number of years. I went for a tasting plate of duck. And where can you go wrong with confit leg, rare breast, poached duck egg, duck foie gras and a duck sausage. This was amazing cooking. Everything worked together and was above 1* cooking.
Katie had suckling pig. 24-hour cooked belly, loin, black pudding, crackling and a glass of mulled cider.

Desserts were the taste of Star desserts in miniature. Gingerbread ice-cream with chocolate chips in a brandy snap basket, an incredibly rich chocolate mousse, spiced ginger parkin, rhubarb panna-cotta and a lemon tart. Katie had the Yorkshire rhubarb, which had the parkin and panna cotta, with a glass of rhubarb schnapps.

So back to the pub for more ale and a long chat with Andrew and the staff. Fuzzy head as we ambled back across the road at 1am! Andrew firmly wants to aim for 2* and there's elements of the place that are already of that standard. If I lived nearer, I'd be there every week.

Chef's table for my 30th I feel :biggrin:

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 10:11 AM

Glad you enjoyed it Adam. My friend had the duck dish last Wednesday and said it was sensational.

I had a sneaky lunch in Manchester yesterday with a couple of reprobates at Abode, which I will write up- and it was remiss of me not to invite you along, so sorry. But it sounds as if you had a better meal than us.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 06:24 PM

We had another good meal at the Star recently with that assiette of duck mentioned above the stand-out dish for me. It was virtually the same composition -but taster and more generous of portion- than one at the Capital a week or so earlier. Special mention also for the very impressive kiddies option of fish and chips. In my opinion, the Star's food improves perceptibly each time we visit.

I also liked the new room with the lighter, more spacious surroundings and the view out onto the gardens. Yes, it contrasts markedly with the older room, but I sometimes felt just a little cramped in there and certainly for the summer months I'd now ask for a table in the brighter, new space. Yet parents beware the clever positioning of a basket of teddy-bears at child's eye-level just inside the new door; Kropotkin junior raced in and immediately grabbed one - £12 down without even a drink to show for it!

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 07:05 AM

We had another good meal at the Star recently with that assiette of duck mentioned above the stand-out dish for me.  It was virtually the same composition -but taster and more generous of portion- than one at the Capital a week or so earlier.  Special mention also for the very impressive kiddies option of fish and chips.  In my opinion, the Star's food improves perceptibly each time we visit.

I also liked the new room with the lighter, more spacious surroundings and the view out onto the gardens.  Yes, it contrasts markedly with the older room, but I sometimes felt just a little cramped in there and certainly for the summer months I'd now ask for a table in the brighter, new space.  Yet parents beware the clever positioning of a basket of teddy-bears at child's eye-level just inside the new door; Kropotkin junior raced in and immediately grabbed one - £12 down without even a drink to show for it!

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Don't tell me it was an Andy Pern teddy bear!!!! :laugh:

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 07:52 AM

No, the bear was much hairier! And it also boasted a nice red woollen jumper with a gold star in the middle. This is important - as possession of such a bear distinguishes the discerning gourmet-toddler amidst the mayhem of the modern nursery...

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 05:01 AM

The current edition of the Royal Horticultural Society's magazine, The Garden, has a feature on the Star's kitchen garden.

It mentions that there is a twenty seater dining table in the garden and you can eat a special menu there, reflecting what's growing. Sounds fun - anyone tried it?
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 02:25 AM

had Sunday lunch here yesterday, very very good..

I had the foie and black pudding to start, the best quality foie I've had in a long time, and good black pudding too, my only criticism would be that there was twice as much black pudding and half as much foie as there should have been but still and excellent dish, one I've been wanting to try for a long time and I wasn't disappointed. Jo had a starter of belly pork and scallops which was sensational, something I'll definitely order next time. My main course was the beef and Yorkshire pudding, not something I'd normally order in a restaurant as our Sunday lunches at home are usually pretty good, but it's been a while since I've had time to do one properly at home, and again, I wasn't disappointed, good beef, excellent pudding, excellent duck fat roast potatoes, the only negative comment would be that the mustard that was served on the side had obviously been out since the beginning of service and has developed a skin, a minor point though, and the other accompaniment, hot horseradish was perfectly prepared and presented. Jo's starter of jugged hare was really good too, a thick powerful sauce and tender meat, the sauce had an element to it that wasn't to my taste, but Jo loved it, the blue cheese dumplings served with it were excellent too, if a little dense, but then I guess that's the point of a dumpling.

Two courses, a couple of pints and a couple of espressos came in at around £70, very good value for such accomplished cooking, we're visiting for dinner next month and I can't wait, and yesterdays trip was a recce for some forthcoming festivities which will see us taking over the Cross House Lodge and Wheelhouse for a weekend, something I'm obviously looking forward to.

#81 Gary Marshall

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 03:20 AM

you should enjoy that, i had my stag do there not long after it opened, a great time was had by all.

if i hadn't already got saturday evening booked up elsewhere i'd have been at the star saturday lunchtime, one of those wintery saturdays where the best place seem to be in a convivial hostelry with some good food.

we had sunday lunch at the pipe and glass, the owners are ex-star and it is a comparable experience, but a little lighter on the wallet.
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 06:58 AM

Bit of a gutter for the guys at The Star:

http://news.bbc.co.u...ire/8342239.stm

Not much detail but it sounds like the Fat Duck vomiting nightmare all over again.

I feel for the Andew and Jaquie and the team, not to mention those on the receiving end of the suspected virus.
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 07:31 AM

Had a call yesterday cancelling our reservation on Saturday night, which confirmed a rumour I'd heard from a wedding photographer two weeks ago. I'd put the rumour down to the photographer being a particularly scheming, egotistical, nasty piece of work (anyone getting married in North or West Yorkshire, PM me for the name of someone to avoid!) but seems she was right about this at least.....

Bad news for Andrew and Jacquie, but only a temporary set back I'm sure, still looking forward to our next visit.

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:14 AM

Recent reports even before that have suggested standards are slipping though. Has it been a case of 'eye off the ball' (love my football metaphors) with the combination of new hotel, new restaurant space and domestic problems? Hopefully they'll work their way through, would be shame to lose such awonderful place
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:16 AM

Standards slipping are hardly related to norovirus though, or am I missing something? We've eaten there a couple of times recently and been very impressed.

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:30 AM

Standards slipping are hardly related to norovirus though, or am I missing something? We've eaten there a couple of times recently and been very impressed.


Sorry, wasn't suggesting it was--just that post brought The Star back to the top of the forum pile again! [Edit--unless it a cleanliness issue, which I somehow doubt]

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#87 Gary Marshall

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 01:57 AM

sorry to hear this yesterday too through the grapevine, for the andrew and jaquie and the team and also selfishly as i'm wanting to go for saturday lunch!
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#88 Gary Marshall

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 03:38 AM

pleased to report the star has reopened.
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Posted 11 November 2009 - 12:03 PM

So much so that BBC Look North reported on it this week. I think it was them anyway.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 02:19 AM

Post pheasant pint at the star yesterday, had a drink with Andrew, they are very relieved to be open again, they employ over 100 people so with no money coming in, that's a lot to shoulder, and in pound notes, it's a very significant sum that would have closed weaker businesses.

Given the star's pulling power it also hit helmsley too as they lost star diners overnight stays, all in all very bad for the local economy.

They weren't alone being hit with the virus locally and given the fact that with weddings and restaurant they are doing 1500 covers a week it's easy to see how these things can be transmitted in such a small place, they feel a bit bruised to be singled out but accept they're a better story than the local school being closed for the same thing.
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