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#31 Tri2Cook

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:29 PM

I watched the first episode. I watched about 10 minutes of the second episode. I'm not sure there's much they can do now to get me to want to try it again.
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#32 IndyRob

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:23 PM

I don't think it's fixed or scripted. Bourdain seems to have a fanatical desire for credibility which, among other things, causes him to explode quite publicly when he feels his endorsement has been implied without his express permission (Michelob, Cadillac,...). He was also pretty vociferous in defending Tom Colicchio's credibility and resistance to producer tampering on Top Chef.

I'll have to see how the rest of the series goes now that we're out of the audition shows. I like the concept of selecting contestants - professional or amateur - with one chance. One swing for the fence. But if they're going to drag this part out into two episodes, they need to find a way to make it more entertaining. Still, all these types of shows (Top Chef, Master Chef, etc.) seem to have to suffer through their initial episodes with quickfire separation of wheat from chaff.

I'm still not sure where we go from here. How do you mentor a team and somehow not know what they're cooking?

#33 mugen

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:38 PM

The whole concept is flawed. Nigella (too skinny) is the least self-serving celeb on the show. I'm embarrassed for Bourdain, who seems to have officially sold out. (I'm sure he has his reasons.) Ludo is a caricature of the jerk French chef, and I regret that I don't know who Malarkey is. The show is trashy and cynical.

I enjoyed it a lot.


Too skinny? She looks the best that she has in a decade, and she'll be much healthier for it, as well. Let me guess: you would prefer that she be overweight so as to serve as an inane excuse (by the term, 'voluptuous' - the proper meaning of which has nothing to do with size and which, in any case, Nigella had vastly exceeded) for millions for women who can't be bothered to maintain their weight. Seriously ...

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

all these shows are scripted, every one of them. Not word for word like a movie, but in who goes on and what goes on. They'd be a lot more boring otherwise.

I had a fun conversation with a guy who creates these "reality" shows a while ago, there's nothing left to chance. And if something goes off script they just redo the sequence. You have to have drama, the person everybody loves to hate, the quiet one, the sexy girl, and so on. Just look at the panel, got the "controversial" AB, the goofball, the sexy lady and the french guy/outlaw full of tats and with a probably heavier accent than he really has.

Same in all these shows. You'll never find one where teams of boring non-drama people compete, people would tune out. It's all about ratings, if you don't have viewers you don't get ads, if you don't get ads you can't produce the show.

Watch them as entertainment, but not as reality or real battles or real competitions.
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#35 IndyRob

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:16 PM

all these shows are scripted, every one of them. Not word for word like a movie, but in who goes on and what goes on. They'd be a lot more boring otherwise.


To me, scripted means just that - Scripted. This is more like 'arranged' which is what we'd expect from any game show concept. Is it heavily edited? Yes.

I had a fun conversation with a guy who creates these "reality" shows a while ago, there's nothing left to chance. And if something goes off script they just redo the sequence.


I don't think that happens here. It doesn't need to. Some of the best game show moments in history came totally unexpectedly.

You have to have drama, the person everybody loves to hate, the quiet one, the sexy girl, and so on. Just look at the panel, got the "controversial" AB, the goofball, the sexy lady and the french guy/outlaw full of tats and with a probably heavier accent than he really has.


I suspect that many people here would call that a properly planned dinner party.

Same in all these shows. You'll never find one where teams of boring non-drama people compete, people would tune out.


Top Chef: Masters comes pretty close. It's like the Pro Bowl of culinary competitions. Hey, we all make a lot of money - Don't hit too hard and endanger someone's earning power.

It's all about ratings, if you don't have viewers you don't get ads, if you don't get ads you can't produce the show.


Why must this come down to something so cynical? If you don't have good food, you won't have good customers. If you don't have good customers, you'll have to close your greasy spoon.

Watch them as entertainment, but not as reality or real battles or real competitions.


I thought that was what I was trying to do.

#36 mugen

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:38 PM

all these shows are scripted, every one of them. Not word for word like a movie, but in who goes on and what goes on. They'd be a lot more boring otherwise.

I had a fun conversation with a guy who creates these "reality" shows a while ago, there's nothing left to chance. And if something goes off script they just redo the sequence. You have to have drama, the person everybody loves to hate, the quiet one, the sexy girl, and so on. Just look at the panel, got the "controversial" AB, the goofball, the sexy lady and the french guy/outlaw full of tats and with a probably heavier accent than he really has.

Same in all these shows. You'll never find one where teams of boring non-drama people compete, people would tune out. It's all about ratings, if you don't have viewers you don't get ads, if you don't get ads you can't produce the show.

Watch them as entertainment, but not as reality or real battles or real competitions.


Watch UK Masterchef (any of the variants: amateur, professional or celebrity) - it's a serious cooking show/competition/culinary institution, and it eschews all of those elements that you've identified as making American reality TV an exaggerated, scripted, excessively commercialised, dramatic farce.

#37 rotuts

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:58 AM

then there is Great British Menu !

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:13 AM

http://assets.nydail...hef5q-2-web.jpg

Malarky looks really douchy.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:56 AM

Watch UK Masterchef (any of the variants: amateur, professional or celebrity) - it's a serious cooking show/competition/culinary institution, and it eschews all of those elements that you've identified as making American reality TV an exaggerated, scripted, excessively commercialised, dramatic farce.


UK Masterchef is serious, and so very, very dull. I do get the impression that it's a serious cooking competition, but I also get the impression that the producers/directors could care less about what is happening and presentation. No dramatic music, or short bits of music played almost at random. Long shots of people staring at the camera without shifting facial expressions (why not keep the camera on the food?). No reaction from people being eliminated. Challenges where the contestant is asked to cook a dish. 10 minutes later, then next contestant same dish. Then 10 minutes later ... etc.

Just like with the food, the presentation of the show is also important.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:13 PM

The hatch contraption adds so much excitement to the show. The Voice ain't got no hatch.
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#41 gfweb

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:04 PM

I'd like to see the loser dropped James Bond style into a shark tank. The harridan on ABs team can go first

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#42 rotuts

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:46 AM

bad got worse. that takes talent.

#43 Derek J

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 02:54 PM

I had high hopes for this show, but it is a snooze-fest. The tiresome banter between Malarky and the French guy is not entertaining. Bourdain is a shadow of his formerly edgy self. This show is fantastic on paper, but the execution is booooooring.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:00 PM

Has Nigella ever said a mean word to anyone?

This show need to be on Fox, she needs to go and be replaced by Gordon Ramsey.
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#45 IndyRob

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:37 PM

I don't see a second season happening, but I think it will get better as the herd is culled. If it comes down to a home cook and a pro it might get good.

But I think the one bite format is very limiting in terms of what they can show prep-wise. Although I suppose it could be cool if, with four people left, they dragged in a whole hog and said "Somewhere in there is the perfect bite. Here are your knives. Find it. GO!"

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:24 AM

I'd like to see the loser dropped James Bond style into a shark tank. The harridan on ABs team can go first

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#47 Werdna

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:49 AM

Still having fun with this show, though I wonder if Nigella's contestant was retained out of pity? 

 

Also wondering why they are in such a hurry to end these shows, it's not like there's a lot of content on TV nowadays, why make these things a measly 9-16 episodes when they could be extended so much longer?  I feel that they are in a big hurry to end The Taste (and other American cooking contest shows) with all these double/triple eliminations... why?  200 + channels, I would think they would be loving an inexpensive-to-produce show that could be extended forever.



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Posted 08 March 2013 - 02:16 AM

It's not a bad show, though it's not what I expected of Bourdain.

For the comments re Nigella's weight, she came into Momofuku Noodle Bar TO the other night, she looked absolutely amazing. Especially given her age.
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