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#1 daisy17

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Posted 26 January 2008 - 06:30 PM

Will be heading to Brazil in March and would welcome any food-related suggestions for these two cities, from markets to street food to restaurants. The Rio threads seem somewhat outdated, so any new info would be very helpful. Thanks in advance!

#2 Just C

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Posted 01 February 2008 - 08:44 PM

If I may piggyback on this post (it would be a bit repetitive to create a new thread for this), I am also going to be in Brazil in March, in Salvador as well, and additionally to Sao Paulo. I would love any restaurant recommendations anyone has for Sao Paulo, as well as Salvador, as the previous poster requested. Thank you!

#3 Le Peche

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 08:15 AM

in Sao Paulo try restaurant D.O.M. (domrestaurant.com.br) it has won just about every brazilian food award and was voted #38 restaurant in the world in 2007. chef Alex Atala is doing some really great food with the indigenous fruits and vegetables of the amazon and other regions of brazil.

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 03:31 PM

Fantastic, thank you very much! We will definitely make a reservation there.

in Sao Paulo try restaurant D.O.M. (domrestaurant.com.br) it has won just about every brazilian food award and was voted #38 restaurant in the world in 2007. chef Alex Atala is doing some really great food with the indigenous fruits and vegetables of the amazon and other regions of brazil.

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#5 Ronaldoebt

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 12:34 PM

In Rio you really need go on this three restaurants:

Roberta Sudbrack

Chef Roberta Sudbrack

http://www.robertasudbrack.com.br/

End: Av. Lineu de Paula Machado, 916 - Jardim Botânico
Tel: (55)(21) 3874-0139


OLYMPE

Chef Claude Troisgros

Rua Custódio Serrão, nº 62, Jardim Botânico, Rio de janeiro, Brasil
Phone: (55)(21) 2539-4542


Le Pre Catelan ( Sofitel Hotel )

Chef Roland Villard

Av. Atlântica, 4240 - Copacabana
Rio de Janeiro - RJ


Tel: 55 (21) 2525-1232
Fax:55 (21) 2525-1200

http://www.accorhote....asp?cd_hotel=4

Roberta Sudbrack and Olympe stay both in Jardim Botanico.It is near from Leblon , around 15 m by car.

Sofitel Hotel is near too , you will take 10-15 m by car.

For a typical brazilliam food try Siri Mole.

Rua Francisco Otaviano, 50, Copacabana, (21) 2267-0894. www.sirimole.com.br





I live in Rio , so tou can ask anything to me...!


In SP you really need go in D.O.M. restaurant as Le peche sad.

You can also try

La Brasserie Erick Jaquin

http://www.brasserie.com.br/

55 11 3826 5409

Brasil a Gosto

http://www.brasilagosto.com.br/
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#6 daisy17

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 01:25 PM

Thank you so much for your post, which I see is your first, so welcome to egullet!

I read about Roberta Sudbrack recently myself so I'm putting it on the list. Am especially interested in good not-fancy food and street food in both Salvador and Rio. We're staying at the Caesar Park, but will hop in a cab to go anywhere. Many thanks for your help.

#7 PatyGirl

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 10:09 PM

Daisy,

I also recomend Roberta Sudbrack, but I work there so am very biased.. :)
It is the best restaurant in Rio.

In Rio: If you are looking for not fancy food, I suggest Pavão Azul or Caranguejo. You can just have a beer and a nibble at either, or have a proper meal. Both have been around for ages, are what we call "pé sujo", but are also really highly rated.

There's a great place called Bira, but it's quite a trek. You can make a day of it though... It's like, an hour and a half away from ipanema, but you drive down the coast so can stop at all the beaches. It's a great day trip.

I'd also visit the street markets,- there's one everyday somewhere close to where you'll be. If you like, I can e-mail you a list of addresses.

An interesting place to visit is also the Feira de São Cristovão,- day or night.

In my opinion, Rio is good for either top of the line restaurants (Roberta Sudbrack) or the ... mmm... I want to say dirty-looking, but that may put you off..., well, the other extreme of "top of the line". The in-between restaurants aren't really good at all, always a let down.

In SP, to add to what has already been said, you should stop by the Mercado Municipal.

Have a fantastic trip and if you want anymore advice or any help even when you're in Rio, don't hesitate to get in touch.

#8 Ronaldoebt

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 06:42 PM

Thank you so much for your post, which I see is your first, so welcome to egullet!

I read about Roberta Sudbrack recently myself so I'm putting it on the list.  Am especially interested in good not-fancy food and street food in both Salvador and Rio.  We're staying at the Caesar Park, but will hop in a cab to go anywhere.  Many thanks for your help.

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Thanks Daisy17 !

I you want not-fancy food , i also recomend Bracarense , Jobi and Devassa.

You can go also to Porcão Rios to eat a lot of meat... Or go to a "boteco" and ask for a "picanha a Oswaldo Aranha".


You really should try the diferent juices from Bibi Sucos.

The Feira de São Cristovão is really a good place , but i not recomend you go alone there.

In Rio ask always for cooperative Taxi.

I recommend http://www.jbtaxi.com.br/.

Bye!
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#9 PatyGirl

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 12:00 AM

Aw, Ronaldo has good tips..: filé oswaldo Aranha, I'd say got to Hipódromo in Gávea, or Filé de Ouro in Jardim Botânico.

And Bracarense is great! Have the bolinho de bacalhau (codfish cakes) with your chope.

And JB Taxi IS the best for getting around. Very reliable.

#10 Ronaldoebt

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 09:00 PM

Aw, Ronaldo has good tips..: filé oswaldo Aranha, I'd say got to Hipódromo in Gávea, or Filé de Ouro in Jardim Botânico.

And Bracarense is great! Have the bolinho de bacalhau (codfish cakes) with your chope.

And JB Taxi IS the best for getting around. Very reliable.

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Thanks Paty!

Do you have msn or orkut ?

Edited by Ronaldoebt, 25 February 2008 - 09:00 PM.

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#11 daisy17

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Posted 27 February 2008 - 03:40 PM

I'd also visit the street markets,- there's one everyday somewhere close to where you'll be. If you like, I can e-mail you a list of addresses.

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Thanks again for all of your help. We're staying at Ipanema - is there a good street market near there?


Or go to a "boteco" and ask for a "picanha a Oswaldo Aranha".

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This sounds great but what is it?!

Thanks,
Karen

#12 daisy17

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Posted 28 February 2008 - 02:56 PM

More questions - are these restaurants good?
Carlota
Zaza Bistro
Bar d'Hotel

They were recommended by friends of a friend.

Also, do we need to make dinner reservations way in advance? We're going to Roberta Sudbrack on Sat night at 9:30. Do we need to reserve for Fri/Sun nights?

thanks so much for your help!
Karen

#13 Ronaldoebt

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Posted 28 February 2008 - 08:08 PM

Hello Karen !

"Thanks again for all of your help. We're staying at Ipanema - is there a good street market near there?"

Yeah! You can go to Garcia D'Ávila is the best street market in Rio.But the most expensive too.


Picanha a Oswaldo Araranha is Rump cover with garlic roasted like a barbecue with rice , fry potato cutter well dead , farofa and sometime feijão ( black beans)


Carlota and Zaza Bistro are good , but there is nothing special in my opinion...Just go there if you have time.If you have to choose , go to Zaza , there are some new dishes from Checo Gonzales !


Bar d'Hotel i didn´t know very well !



"Also, do we need to make dinner reservations way in advance? We're going to Roberta Sudbrack on Sat night at 9:30. Do we need to reserve for Fri/Sun nights?"

Oh Yeah all the good restaurants in Rio stay very busy in Fri/Sun ! And some of them do not make reservation. I think Roberta do.

Which Hotel would you stay ?


;)

Edited by Ronaldoebt, 28 February 2008 - 08:10 PM.

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#14 AlexForbes

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Posted 13 April 2008 - 05:26 AM

Hi,

here is a very late reply, but which I think will be useful to any foreigner planning a trip to Brazil and wanting reliable restaurant tips.

Annual restaurant edition of the excellent magazine IN, published in Santiago

another great article from the same magazine...

and

VEJA SAO PAULO, the best magazine for finding out addresses and telephone numbers for any restaurant in São Paulo. Even if you don't understand Portuguese, simply type in the name of the restaurant in the search box and a short review will appear with, at the bottom, all the info you need.

cheers,

Alexandra
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#15 daemon

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 04:23 AM

Hi
this is my first post in the south america forum as I am about to travel to brazil for the first time.
I only have time for one great meal in Rio, and am highly considering visiting Roberta Sudbrack's.

the thing is I don't speak nore read portugese, and I can not find any infos in english.

.my only 3 options are monday may 5th, monday 12th (lunch), tuesday 13th lunch).
do you think booking a table for 1 on such short notice is possible ? is it even open on mondays?

.could someone give me an idea about the big menu price w/ wine ?

thank you very much

cheers
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 05:09 AM

ok
i took me a 10 min phonecall from france to someone who doesnt speak english nor french ( and i dont speak portugese nor spanish) to book a table for next tuesday.
but as they don't accept visa, i'd like to know how much cash I should bring.

#17 Ronaldoebt

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Posted 04 May 2008 - 08:15 PM

ok
i took me a 10 min phonecall from france to someone who doesnt speak english nor french ( and i dont speak portugese nor spanish) to book a table for next tuesday.
but as they don't accept visa, i'd like to know how much cash I should bring.

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Hi Daemon ! This is your Last Name ? Because i Have a Friend with de same Last name...

Roberta Sudbrack is the best without any doubts...

I think you will spend 180-240 reais for the menu plus the wine 80 ~ 1000 reais is up to you... !


You should try the e-mail to try a reservation info@robertasudbrack.com.br

Oh , The restaurant at his best is just at Night.At the luncj they just serve few entries...
Go at Night !!!
If you fail in making reservation, when you arrive in Rio ask for the hotel to do for you...

;)
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#18 Ronaldoebt

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Posted 04 May 2008 - 08:16 PM

Edit:

I just see now the dates :(

Did you went there ?
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#19 daemon

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Posted 10 May 2008 - 06:34 AM

hi Ronaldoebt
thanks for your answer and advice.
I had to delay my trip but will sure keep your info precisously.
thanks again ( and nop daemon is not my real name ;-)

#20 PatyGirl

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Posted 18 May 2008 - 11:09 PM

Hey Daemon,

I just saw your posts, so I don't know if you've been to Rio yet...

Roberta is open tuesday - saturday for dinner, and lunch only on thursday and fridays. Friday and Saturday nights are the best nights of the week (although they are also the busiest) because the prix fixe menu has more courses than during the week.

If you need any help, feel free to pm or e-mail me with questions.

I hope you have a great time!!

beijos,
Paty

#21 Le Peche

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 04:25 AM

I know you already went on your trip since its august now but I visited DOM mentioned previously and it was a great meal. You can see it here.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 09:55 AM

Just discovered this thread. As there are so few about Brazil and as I live in Rio I would like to share my 2cents for future visitors.

I agree almost completely with the posts above from fellows cariocas, but will add another input for help (or confusion, I don't know):

- High cuisine: Sudbrack and Olympe. I think they are both on a level of their own in the city and above Pre Catalan.

- Mid-level nice restaurants:

Carlota seems to me the most reliable. It is not too daring, just one touch or another, but everything tastes quite good. Deserts quite nice as well with local touches like Guava with cheese ice cream.

Zaza tends to experiment more with mixed results to my taste.

Bar D'Hotel is good food, but mostly a place to see people in a nice environment. I would not call it a food destination.

Zuka is a good option and Sushi Leblon as well. Try the sashimi variations with slices of Foie Gras on top. Quite good.

- Local: I agree that the simple is sometimes the best.

Filé de Ouro is probably the nicest beef in local variations. Another a La Carte meat place is called Majorica. Besides that you have the "rodizios" places where Porcão tends to have the best meat. Try farofa.

Bira is really good for local food with wonderful sight seeing on the way and there. You'll eat with small monkeys (of the Cebus genus type, Google says) around you. Siri Mole is very good for sea food in Bahia style (African influenced).

- I would add Antiquarius for one of the best Portuguese food outside Portugal...I guess. This is on the more expensive side, though.

Finally, pizza (everyone eats them at some point), there is Capriciosa, which to me has the best ingredients.

I hope this helps someone in the future.

Marcos

Edited by mbernstein, 03 October 2008 - 12:29 PM.

Just trying to eat some good food and learn in the process with all the well versed foodies here. Please don't hold me too accountable for my so personal opinions! :)

#23 AlexForbes

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Posted 28 February 2009 - 06:48 AM

Hi everyone,

this is for anyone planning a trip to Rio or SP and is researching restaurants. My list of tips:

1- For those who have trouble booking a table due to language barriers, the best thing to do is either call or email the concierge of the hotel where you'll be staying and ask them to do it for you. Any 5 star hotel offers this service, as do many 4 star hotels. Another good tip is to use the concierge service of your credit card (Visa Signature, Amex centurion, etc) - premium cards offer premium services, so make good use of them! BTWY, reservations are essencial at Roberta Sudbrack and D.O.M. and any other high-end restaurant. Do keep in mind, however, that Brazilians dine late, so if you show up at 8 without a reservation you might get a table. The big rush usually starts at 9.

2- For reviews in English of Roberta Sudbrack and other restaurants in São Paulo and Rio, with photos, you may want to check out the site Brazil for Insiders

3- For those looking for good recommendations of very casual places in Rio, the secret password is boteco (bow-tekk-ow), which means small bar. Rio is famous for its wonderful botecos, which are very simple bars, usually with rickety tables set up on the sidewalk, where you can have an excellent meal for under 10 dollars. things to try include caldinho de feijão (black bean soup), bolinho de bacalhau (cod croquettes), empadinha de palmito (crumbly, buttery pastry filled with seasoned heart of palm and baked) and pastel (samosa-like deep-fried pastry with fillings that come in a few standard flavours, cheese, meat or shrimp). Rio's most famous boteco is the Bracarense, in the Leblon district, adjacent to Ipanema.

hope this helps!
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#24 genarog

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Posted 28 February 2009 - 12:40 PM

In Salvador:

In most cities I try to avoid the tourist-oriented restaurants, but if you visit Pelourinho I can recommend the Feijoada served at the restaurant on the main square.

In Rio: Street Food
I remember the carts selling great Kibbeh.

#25 AlexForbes

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 07:29 AM

Oh, and for a list of the top 10 restaurants in Salvador, click here.
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#26 Ronaldoebt

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 04:34 PM

I went to Zaza and was horrible, don´t go there!

There is a new restaurant in Rio, Eñe. It is spanish cuisine and it is very very good!

Roberta SudBrack and Eñe for me are the best in town!
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#27 AlexForbes

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 12:25 PM

Ronaldo, funny, but I don't share your opinion of Ene's food. I have not been to their new Rio restaurant, but the Spanish twins have served irregular food at the Sao Paulo Ene, you never know if you'll have a great or a sorry dinner....

Roberta Sudbrack is a more sure bet...
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#28 Ronaldoebt

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 02:31 PM

Alexandra i ate just once in Eñe São Paulo (july 2006) and it was very very good. The chef stills to be "Japa" ?

In Eñe Rio i ate more than 5 times and it is always perfect. The service is bad i have to adimt, but this is a major problem in Rio de Janeiro. Roberta i ate 3 times; One it was ok, the second superb and the third very good.
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