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I adore watching Sandy! She is just THAT side of crazy. It's one of those 'so bad it's good' things that I can't resist. I'm sad that she's only on Thursdays and Fridays now. I'm a complete freak about it - I look up what episode is going to be on and 'prep' by reading the thread at Television without Pity.

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I, too, love Sandra. Her crazy color-coordinated kitchen sets (how many Kitchen Aids does she have?) and the tablescapes are what I watch it for. Occasionally she will make something that looks edible, even tasty and she always makes super-strong drinks to go with whatever her theme is.

I'm with Kim, she's a hoot.

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I once said "Bitchin Kitchen" was the worst food program on TV. I was wrong..."The Culinary Adventures of Baron Ambrosia," on The Cooking Channel is more deplorable than even the nastiest critic could have ever imagined. Even if it is intended to be satire, (the batteries used as hair curlers notwithstanding), it's bad satire. The worst common denominator I am sure.

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Well said. CABA is juvenile, deeply stupid and embarassing. I stumbled into this great steaming turd of a show and watched about 10 minutes, waiting for it to get good. Any middle schooler with an iPhone would post better stuff on YouTube.

Advertisers pay for this? What's the demographic...morons?

Either Cooking Channel has absolutely no judgement (possible), or they have nothing original to show (probable), or they have complete contempt for their audience (likely).

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I, too, love Sandra. Her crazy color-coordinated kitchen sets (how many Kitchen Aids does she have?) and the tablescapes are what I watch it for. Occasionally she will make something that looks edible, even tasty and she always makes super-strong drinks to go with whatever her theme is.

I'm with Kim, she's a hoot.

She's absolutly nuts. Probably fun at a party, at least before she gets too ripped and starts pole dancing.

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Let's hope she saves that for when she and the Governor are alone.

Re: CABA. I've seen the commercials for this show and thought "Wtf is this guy trying to do here?" It looks even worse than the "Surreal Gourmet", I think it was about 10+ years ago. That guy traveled around in an Airstream trailor made to look like a giant toaster.

Dave, never say never about bad cooking shows. There is always another one in the works.

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I'm wondering why television stations are buying unprofessional cooking shows anyway. I mean, main point of the cooking show is to let people learn something about cooking but not in wrong way...

"The way you cut your meat reflects the way you live."

Franchise Takeaway

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Sigh. I miss the good old TV cooking shows - the ones on PBS - I mean, the ones that I could learn from; and while I know I can get them on DVD, there's something about watching it while it's being televised. We have all the Indiana Jones movies, yet when they are on TV, we watch them. I loved spending Saturday mornings with Julia, and Jacques, and Pierre Franey......

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I must insist that "SPAIN, on the road again" with Mario Batali, Mark Bitmann,Gwyneth Paltrow and Claudia Bassols retains the title of the worse cooking show ever.

Not only is it a truly henious and hateful show, it manages to be horrible with a cast consisting of a highly accomplished chef, a highly accomplished food writer/critic/cook, a highly accomplished actress/cook. Indeed, the only non-highly accomplished cast member (Bassols) is the only one not subject to my opprobrium.

This show is an epic failure INSPITE of all that talent.

Had the cast actually taken their roles seriously, it could have been a classic!

Instead, a toxic brew of hubris, sloth, and gluttony produced a cowpie of a cooking show.

I defy anyone to show me a larger collection of food luminaries, that have managed to produce such an utter piece of crap, as this show.

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No, the main point of the show is to attract viewers. The viewers are exposed to advertising. The television network makes money. That's the point. Bonus points if the show is cheap to make.

Also, the more uneducated the viewer, the easier it is to convince them some $15 plastic doohickey and a $5000 gourmet stove is all that stands between them and gourmet chef status. Educated cooks are harder to sell to.

PS: I am a guy.

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No, the main point of the show is to attract viewers. The viewers

are exposed to advertising. The television network makes money. That's the point. Bonus points if the show is cheap to make.

Also, the more uneducated the viewer, the easier it is to convince them some $15 plastic doohickey and a $5000 gourmet stove is all that stands between them and gourmet chef status. Educated cooks are harder to sell to.

Yup - we educated cooks buy the $15 plastic doohickey for 50¢ at a thrift store so we can entertain our eG friends - behold the Eggstractor.

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Nadia G and Baron Ambrosia are actually 2 shows that have made it into my DVR rotation. The thing I enjoy most about CABA is listening to my wife ask "Why in the HELL do you keep watching this???!!!???", and somehow I find the Baron to be less annoying than Guy Fieri and the restaurants he visits are far more worthy of a Diners, Drive-ins and Dives visit. I end up wishing I could visit at least half of the joints on the show. His use of restaurant staff in the horrific acting is reminiscent of a John Waters movie, which in my book is never a bad thing and may help to explain my tolerance for the unabashed, annoying freakishness.

Likewise, Nadia G cooks a lot of stuff that appeals to me...usually a little more involved or calorie-laden for day to day eating, but something I'd have fun making on the weekend. Her constant mixing of maple syrup and balsamic vinegar was a bit of a revelation. Again, needlessly overblown characters reminiscent of Pee Wee's Playhouse, but I personally find the contrived storylines that exist throughout 99% of Food Network programming to be mind numbingly stupid and a waste of time. Just me, but I'd rather hear the umpteenth "oh to have a jetpack" segment from Nadia than sit through even one more "and here's another make-believe Martha's Vineyard yuppie gathering" from Ina Garten. And now that I have a functioning brain in the kitchen, reruns of Good Eats represent an exercise in tedium to me. Lifesize talking squid somehow fly under the radar because Alton thought of nerdy first. I think the "unique personal perspective to draw in the viewer" angle that is at the core of what makes food programming dumber and dumber is a total waste, but it makes more money than the shows relegated to PBS, so if it HAS to exist then I'm all for the ridiculous. Bonus- it means I'm still a viable target demographic!

Jerry

Kansas City, Mo.

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My eG Food Blog- 2011

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Nadia G and Baron Ambrosia are actually 2 shows that have made it into my DVR rotation. The thing I enjoy most about CABA is listening to my wife ask "Why in the HELL do you keep watching this???!!!???", and somehow I find the Baron to be less annoying than Guy Fieri and the restaurants he visits are far more worthy of a Diners, Drive-ins and Dives visit. I end up wishing I could visit at least half of the joints on the show. His use of restaurant staff in the horrific acting is reminiscent of a John Waters movie, which in my book is never a bad thing and may help to explain my tolerance for the unabashed, annoying freakishness.

Likewise, Nadia G cooks a lot of stuff that appeals to me...usually a little more involved or calorie-laden for day to day eating, but something I'd have fun making on the weekend. Her constant mixing of maple syrup and balsamic vinegar was a bit of a revelation. Again, needlessly overblown characters reminiscent of Pee Wee's Playhouse, but I personally find the contrived storylines that exist throughout 99% of Food Network programming to be mind numbingly stupid and a waste of time. Just me, but I'd rather hear the umpteenth "oh to have a jetpack" segment from Nadia than sit through even one more "and here's another make-believe Martha's Vineyard yuppie gathering" from Ina Garten. And now that I have a functioning brain in the kitchen, reruns of Good Eats represent an exercise in tedium to me. Lifesize talking squid somehow fly under the radar because Alton thought of nerdy first. I think the "unique personal perspective to draw in the viewer" angle that is at the core of what makes food programming dumber and dumber is a total waste, but it makes more money than the shows relegated to PBS, so if it HAS to exist then I'm all for the ridiculous. Bonus- it means I'm still a viable target demographic!

You are so good at the ironic/sarcastic/cool vibe that Mr. Kim and I almost took you seriously here. We KNOW that no one that we love and respect could POSSIBLY watch more than eight seconds of these idiots :raz: . Mr. Kim wants to know why you can't find a meaningful and intelligent food show to watch....like "Man vs. Food" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: .

Seriously, respecting your smarts and taste as much as I do, I must disagree. If I ever saw Nadia on the street, I would have to be physically restrained from slapping her silly and I find the Baron cringingly embarrassing to watch.

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You are so good at the ironic/sarcastic/cool vibe that Mr. Kim and I almost took you seriously here. We KNOW that no one that we love and respect could POSSIBLY watch more than eight seconds of these idiots. Mr. Kim wants to know why you can't find a meaningful and intelligent food show to watch....like "Man vs. Food".

Seriously, respecting your smarts and taste as much as I do, I must disagree. If I ever saw Nadia on the street, I would have to be physically restrained from slapping her silly and I find the Baron cringingly embarrassing to watch.

LOL! You know, after re-reading my initial post I have to say....my actual enthusiasm for those two shows was very restrained. I don't know what it was that made me last more than ten seconds watching either of them the first time. Meredith still isn't sold on the Baron, but is in the Nadia G camp with me. I guess that my fascination with derangement factors in here....it's kind of like how "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" was the first TV show where I said "THIS is exactly the type of TV I could and would write"......same with these 2 shows, given the opportunity I'd give the world a "universal facepalm opportunity" food program similar to these.

Crazy off-topic thing- but food tv related- the huge chicken liver Battleship sandwich at our favorite Black Sheep won the regional sandwich bout on the latest incarnation of Man Vs. Food.

Jerry

Kansas City, Mo.

Unsaved Loved Ones

My eG Food Blog- 2011

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My youngest brother and his boys love Man vs. Food. My SIL and I say "pass", but to each his own.

I miss the Great Chefs series that was on about 15 years ago on PBS. It was pretty awesome to see some of the European chefs turn out great meals in a kitchen the size of a closet.

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No, the main point of the show is to attract viewers. The viewers are exposed to advertising. The television network makes money. That's the point. Bonus points if the show is cheap to make.

Also, the more uneducated the viewer, the easier it is to convince them some $15 plastic doohickey and a $5000 gourmet stove is all that stands between them and gourmet chef status. Educated cooks are harder to sell to.

That's why you can find Racheal Ray's Garbage Bowl for about 20.00 USD. An old Tupperware bowl would do the same job.

Porthos Potwatcher
The Once and Future Cook

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No, the main point of the show is to attract viewers. The viewers are exposed to advertising. The television network makes money. That's the point. Bonus points if the show is cheap to make.

I agree that is the main point of the show author and tv station, but point should be knowledge... Unfortunately, we are facing the times where money talks instead of people.

"The way you cut your meat reflects the way you live."

Franchise Takeaway

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No, the main point of the show is to attract viewers. The viewers are exposed to advertising. The television network makes money. That's the point. Bonus points if the show is cheap to make.

I agree that is the main point of the show author and tv station, but point should be knowledge... Unfortunately, we are facing the times where money talks instead of people.

Sorry, but it's not that simple. The "people" do "talk" and what they are interested in enough to do that talking is what generates the money.

You can decry "money" all you want, but the fact is that when folks work, most of them want to be paid for their efforts. I suspect that includes you. So it takes money to produce and broadcast television shows. That money has to come from somewhere. If the show is popular enough (ie, enough "people" that "talk" about it), advertising dollars pay for it. If the show isn't popular enough, then what? I don't know anyone that would be capable of producing and broadcasting the so-called educational "quality shows" all by themselves just because they think those shows would be good for us and benefit an intelligent audience. So commercial TV has to appeal to enough viewers to facilitate whatever the viewing public is willing to support.

PBS tries to broadcast "quality shows," but they have to beg for the money to do it. The money has to be there. It has to come from somewhere.

You say "money talks instead of people." Nope. The people talk and the money follows.

We as a populace get what we deserve in most things, certainly including television cooking shows. If the "people" demanded better quality shows, the "money" would follow.

And, that said, has anyone here been tuning into the Cooking Channel? They're broadcasting reruns of many of those shows you all have been saying you miss. And, of course, since they're broadcasting "quality television," I read somewhere that they're struggling, while the mass-market appeal of the Food Network schlock seems to be doing just fine.

So, indeed, the "people" are talking. And what they say they want is Rachael Ray.

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I don't understand why rappers have to hunch over while they stomp around the stage hollering.  It hurts my back to watch them. On the other hand, I've been thinking that perhaps I should start a rap group here at the Old Folks' Home.  Most of us already walk like that.

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PBS claims it is supported by viewer donations, which is true in a way since they receive our tax dollars. I'm not sure what the fund-raisers are for.

I watch the Cooking Channel occasionally. "Two Fat Ladies" is on in the evenings.

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PBS claims it is supported by viewer donations, which is true in a way since they receive our tax dollars. I'm not sure what the fund-raisers are for.

I watch the Cooking Channel occasionally. "Two Fat Ladies" is on in the evenings.

They say that the tax dollars are not enough. I happily support them, though.

And I, too, watch the Two Fat Ladies. What a giggle they are!

And I've made many of their recipes. Their Peas with Lettuce recipe is a particular favorite.

I don't understand why rappers have to hunch over while they stomp around the stage hollering.  It hurts my back to watch them. On the other hand, I've been thinking that perhaps I should start a rap group here at the Old Folks' Home.  Most of us already walk like that.

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That's why you can find Racheal Ray's Garbage Bowl for about 20.00 USD. An old Tupperware bowl would do the same job.

Or buy the HEFTY Scrap Bags and holder for $5.00 on Amazon

Wawa Sizzli FTW!

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I *like* cooking competition shows, and some I've even learned from. From over-doing it on Chopped, my six-year old can now tell you how to make a meal from anything (me "Quick: pheasant, chard, faro, and blueberries" Her "I'd saute the pheasant, make a sauce from the blueberries and mama, what's faro?") There are patterns of techniques and ingredients and the refrigerator holds little challenge for me.

But recently, deprived of pleasures of Top Chef, I have indulged in some stinkers. Not unwatchable, since apparently no cooking competition is unwatchable for me (Hi, my name is Christina and I have a problem...) but pretty flawed

1) No Kitchen Required, BBC. I love the first couple episodes of this show, but quickly it became tiresome and then painful. Each show they travel to a exotic local and meet with some tribe, where they have a native challenge (spearing stuff! digging up roots!) "feast" with them to learn the local cuisine, then have to hunt a protein and cook outdoors.

They have visited many "tribes" including assorted islanders, Chaing Mai hill people, Apaches (who use crossbows with sights and wear a lot of camaflauge), Creoles in Louisiana, Hawaii... i.e. many people who have left of their tribe mostly a set of recipes, and some that are still living off bats and iguana. This is interesting. however...

The three chefs are always the same. No matter how many times Michael Psilakis loses, he soldiers on, repeating "I'm completely out of my element. I'm a New York boy" but always trying to "do my food" despite the fact that's not the challenge. Madison Cowan's tic "Know what I mean" incites murderous thoughts, and Kayne Raymond, younger, healthier and frequently mentioning his Maori pals wins 99% of the challenges and most of the cooking. A competition where you know the outcome is not much of one.

2) Around the World in 80 Plates, Bravo. Top Chef meets No Kitchen required meets Survivor. Chefs travel from city to city, learn local cuisines, vote each other off. It's a bit like the above, except we are talking Barcelona and Bangkok and no one cooks bats. I'll admit I watched to the end, held on by the tension of wondering if the winner would be someone who was clearly a mediocre cook but a great poker player. But the show was repetitive and frequently dull or unsatisfying. I can see a second season working through some of the kinks (you really get tired of watching them run around cites) and turning out a fun challenge show. We shall see. Right now, it's pretty stinky.

3) Food Network Star! Food Network. This year is the year (for me) it moved from dreadful to hilarious, and I'm not sure why. It's dreadful, but it's camp. I'm really enjoying the blatant admission that cooking stars need to be more stars than chefs, and all the gross backstage insights into how the sausage that is FN is made. The addition of the three very different "coaches" Alton, Bobby and Italian chick with huge teeth has made it even more fun, as they demand authenticity which apparently translates to "admit on national TV you grew up dumpster diving for dinner."

Hmm, that woudl make a great title for a competition show, wouldn't it?

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