F .BLUMLEIN Steam Convection Oven

[Kerry Beal]

  On 6/17/2020 at 2:08 AM, JoNorvelleWalker said:

 

The stainless steel piece I use in the CSO is 10x10x1/2 inch.  Would that be too small?  The same stuff is available as 12x12x1/2 inch.  It is high molybdenum 316 steel.

 

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Too small for two loaves side by side. I want to be able to do that.

[JoNorvelleWalker]

  On 6/17/2020 at 10:41 PM, Kerry Beal said:

Too small for two loaves side by side. I want to be able to do that.

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Then use two pieces of steel!

 

Or get two ovens.

 

[JoNorvelleWalker]

  On 6/17/2020 at 10:14 PM, ElsieD said:

 

What's wrong with using aluminum in the CSO?

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https://forums.egullet.org/topic/145727-substitute-for-mcs-12-thick-pizza-steel/?do=findComment&comment=2169750

 

[Kerry Beal]

  On 6/17/2020 at 10:52 PM, JoNorvelleWalker said:

 

Then use two pieces of steel!

 

Or get two ovens.

 

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Funny girl!

[FauxPas]

@Kerry Beal, wondering if you have had much time to play with this oven yet and if you have an overall opinion about it. Would you recommend it? 

 

PS - I know you are busy with a gazillion things, so not expecting anything, just wondering!  😃

[Kerry Beal]

  On 7/12/2020 at 10:29 PM, FauxPas said:

@Kerry Beal, wondering if you have had much time to play with this oven yet and if you have an overall opinion about it. Would you recommend it? 

 

PS - I know you are busy with a gazillion things, so not expecting anything, just wondering!  😃

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My biggest problem is that I'm not getting notification of the topics I've posted on so didn't see this until now.

 

Still can't make decent toast in it!

 

Did a chicken the other day - as good as the first one - have another in the fridge. This one I'll do in a shallower pan so that it get's better air circulation so the bottom of the legs and wings gets crispier.

 

I think I've just about sorted the bread  - have the stone on the upside down rack on the bottom rungs so it's a little higher - I preheat on bake at 450º F for as long as it takes - then turn on the grill at 450º until the stone is over 200º C. Then combi 410º F for 30 minutes. 

[rotuts]

@Kerry Beal 

 

I dont have one 

 

[ed.: yet ? ]

 

as noted earlier , it might be unrealistic to expect this item to rival the CSO for toast

 

to large a volume over all compared to the volume of the toast.

[TdeV]

  On 7/13/2020 at 1:14 AM, Kerry Beal said:

Still can't make decent toast in it!

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Thanks for this, but it depresses me utterly. I really want one of these ovens!

[Kerry Beal]

I guess the issue is more that I'm not prepared to do the experiments to determine time and temperature and what program for the toast - cause hubby will not jump through those hoops. 

[Chris Hennes]

I am eagerly awaiting you all getting this dialed in: I think I'm going to buy one for our kitchen at work, to use for basic baking stuff (not making toast), but I can't really spend the time here to figure out what the magic settings are. It sounds like @Kerry Beal is pretty close on getting bread to work, anyway.

[Kerry Beal]

 

So rack on bottom sliders but upside down - means that the stone sits around half an inch above the rack.

 

 

Preheated bake 450º F for about 30 minutes - then grill 450º F for about 20 minutes - then combi 410º F for 30 min and put the dough in on parchment. Turned about half way through.  

 

 

 

Got a decently browned bottom. 

 

 

 

 

Chicken was 420º F for 70 minutes. Used the non perforated pan that comes with the oven - small rack to hold the chicken off the bottom. One very tender juicy chicken with lovely skin. 

[rotuts]

@Kerry Beal 

 

for the chicken , 420 F     was that steam-bake ?

[lindag]

I was eyeing one of these for my new kitchen, however, if it can't make good toast I think it's a deal breaker for me.  I'd just keep my CSO and continue bread baking in my big oven.

Edited July 15, 2020 by lindag (log)

[Keri AH]

I'm interested in a steam oven for bread baking (like several here have been discussing). Our countertop space is limited and I'd like to use the oven on top of our refrigerator. Yes, I understand that it is VERY heavy but once it's up there, would it be practical to use it that way? The top of our fridge is at 65".

[Kerry Beal]

  On 7/15/2020 at 7:17 AM, rotuts said:

@Kerry Beal 

 

for the chicken , 420 F     was that steam-bake ?

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Yup - combi

[Kerry Beal]

  On 7/15/2020 at 7:01 PM, Keri AH said:

I'm interested in a steam oven for bread baking (like several here have been discussing). Our countertop space is limited and I'd like to use the oven on top of our refrigerator. Yes, I understand that it is VERY heavy but once it's up there, would it be practical to use it that way? The top of our fridge is at 65".

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Be a bitch to get the door open I'd think

 

[KennethT]

  On 7/15/2020 at 7:01 PM, Keri AH said:

I'm interested in a steam oven for bread baking (like several here have been discussing). Our countertop space is limited and I'd like to use the oven on top of our refrigerator. Yes, I understand that it is VERY heavy but once it's up there, would it be practical to use it that way? The top of our fridge is at 65".

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Also, how high is your ceiling?

[gfweb]

  On 7/16/2020 at 1:22 AM, Kerry Beal said:

Be a bitch to get the door open I'd think

 

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Getting on a stool to retrieve a dish of hot stuff sounds like a scald in the making.

 

For that matter, a steam oven with a face-high door is a potential scald too.

Edited July 16, 2020 by gfweb (log)

[Keri AH]

  On 7/16/2020 at 1:53 AM, KennethT said:

Also, how high is your ceiling?

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There’s probably 6’ (or more) above the top of the fridge. 

[Keri AH]

  On 7/16/2020 at 11:22 AM, gfweb said:

 

Getting on a stool to retrieve a dish of hot stuff sounds like a scald in the making.

 

For that matter, a steam oven with a face-high door is a potential scald too.

 

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<sigh> All the replies I've received do make sense. I'll need to give some thought to other alternatives, since I'm only looking for the 'steam' functionality (which likely means this model is overkill). E.g., a lighter oven could be stored above the fridge but moved to the counter for use. I would consider the CSO-300 (reading those threads) since it's only around 23 lbs. and has the steam function, but I see it's now discontinued. Are there other threads on countertop steam ovens that I could be following?

[blue_dolphin]

  On 7/16/2020 at 7:04 PM, Keri AH said:

Are there other threads on countertop steam ovens that I could be following?

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You could follow this thread on the Anova oven but who knows if it's going to be available. 

 

Edited to add that there's also a thread on the Tovala oven but it hasn't seen much activity of late.

Edited July 16, 2020 by blue_dolphin (log)

[palo]

On top of the fridge is a BAD idea for so many reasons it boggles the brain!!!

 

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[Chris Hennes]

Aw yeah, look what showed up at my office this morning:

 

[gfweb]

  On 7/23/2020 at 1:47 PM, Chris Hennes said:

Aw yeah, look what showed up at my office this morning:

 

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The stuff in your office reflected in the door looks pretty interesting too.

 

[Chris Hennes]

  On 7/23/2020 at 2:12 PM, gfweb said:

 

The stuff in your office reflected in the door looks pretty interesting too.

 

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Since the library's meeting spaces are all closed to the public right now, I've converted our catering kitchen into a TV studio . I'm currently making a video about Bryan Ford's "Choco Pan de Coco" from his new cookbook, New World Sourdough.