Chocdoc Flying High in Amsterdam

[JoNorvelleWalker]

49 minutes ago, Kim Shook said:

@Kerry Beal, I know you are busy and all, but Kerry, I think I might have a lead for you😉.  Please observe this candy I bought a couple of days ago.  It is called Butter Krak and is a special candy only available around Easter.  It is very good – dark chocolate, regular and toasted coconut and butter cream.  But, please look at that chocolate.  That is the worst temper I’ve ever seen on a commercial product.  It is truly worse than mine.  And that can’t actually be fingerprints visible on the surface? 

 

It may not have butter but at least it has a crack.

 

[Shelby]

3 hours ago, heidih said:

OK I am an idiot - thanks for the clarification

Nah, you are not.  Well, you're not alone.  I thought it was an acorn 🤷‍♀️

[Kerry Beal]

5 hours ago, Kim Shook said:

@Kerry Beal, I know you are busy and all, but Kerry, I think I might have a lead for you😉.  Please observe this candy I bought a couple of days ago.  It is called Butter Krak and is a special candy only available around Easter.  It is very good – dark chocolate, regular and toasted coconut and butter cream.  But, please look at that chocolate.  That is the worst temper I’ve ever seen on a commercial product.  It is truly worse than mine.  And that can’t actually be fingerprints visible on the surface? 

Clearly not handled well! It is either old or has not been stored under ideal conditions. What you are seeing is form VI transformation. Cocoa butter crystals are always striving towards reaching form VI which is their most stable form. The form V crystals in well tempered chocolate eventually transform and work their way through the surface of the chocolate and recrystallize there giving the chocolate a dusty appearance. 

[Kim Shook]

14 hours ago, Kerry Beal said:

Clearly not handled well! It is either old or has not been stored under ideal conditions. What you are seeing is form VI transformation. Cocoa butter crystals are always striving towards reaching form VI which is their most stable form. The form V crystals in well tempered chocolate eventually transform and work their way through the surface of the chocolate and recrystallize there giving the chocolate a dusty appearance. 

See!  Even when I make a joke, I am in such august company that I end up learning something.  So, this "VI transformation" is why some years my chocolate candy looks good for a couple of days and then starts looking a little dusty after that?  Good to know.  Thanks, ma'am!

[Kerry Beal]

20 minutes ago, Kim Shook said:

See!  Even when I make a joke, I am in such august company that I end up learning something.  So, this "VI transformation" is why some years my chocolate candy looks good for a couple of days and then starts looking a little dusty after that?  Good to know.  Thanks, ma'am!

Well - if you've just tempered it and a day or so later it looks dusty - then its essentially the same process but with form IV converting to form V.

 

 

[JoNorvelleWalker]

36 minutes ago, Kerry Beal said:

Well - if you've just tempered it and a day or so later it looks dusty - then its essentially the same process but with form IV converting to form V.

 

 

 

If the chocolate was just tempered shouldn't it be in form V?

 

[Kerry Beal]

6 minutes ago, JoNorvelleWalker said:

 

If the chocolate was just tempered shouldn't it be in form V?

 

So well tempered chocolate will be in form V - poorly tempered might be form IV. 

[Kerry Beal]

The plane we flew in was the same that we flew over in last week. It's an old one - and we discovered today that means no WiFi.

 

 

We had about 10 min in the lounge in Amsterdam by the time the automatic passport reader rejected me and spit me out to the line to get stamped by a real person. We saw lunch being brought out just as we left so it was slim pickens.

 

 

 

Lunch was an app of pea puree and smoked salmon. 

 

 

Green thai curry.

 

 

cheese to finish (there was dessert after that but I passed)

 

Then a bit before landing - another meal - chicken ham with orzo.

 

 

Two big honking chocolates in that box. I bit into one - and rejected it. Flight attendant tried to give it to me when she took the tray - I said no - and she dumped it back into a container full of the boxes. Going to be a bit of a surprise if someone gets that box!

 

 

[gfweb]

@Kerry Beal That frigging Amsterdam passport machine rejected me too.

[Orbit]

The salmon and the cheese and crackers look good!

[Kerry Beal]

11 minutes ago, Orbit said:

The salmon and the cheese and crackers look good!

actually the curry was not horrible either.

[demiglace]

Chicken ham ? 

[Kerry Beal]

17 hours ago, demiglace said:

Chicken ham ? 

My thought too - but texture was nice, flavor was nice.

[Anna N]

3 minutes ago, Kerry Beal said:

My thought too - but texture was nice, flavor was nice.

It was huge a few years back. I remember making it. 

[Kerry Beal]

3 minutes ago, Anna N said:

It was huge a few years back. I remember making it. 

I've made it salting sous vide before cooking.

[Darienne]

7 minutes ago, Anna N said:

It was huge a few years back. I remember making it. 

 

3 minutes ago, Kerry Beal said:

I've made it salting sous vide before cooking.

Well, please, what exactly is it?

 

[ElsieD]

2 minutes ago, Darienne said:

 

Well, please, what exactly is it?

 

 

Curious minds would like to know.

[Anna N]

37 minutes ago, ElsieD said:

 

Curious minds would like to know.

This is most likely the recipe I used or something very similar. 

[ElsieD]

38 minutes ago, Anna N said:

This is most likely the recipe I used or something very similar. 

 

 

Thanks.  This is the first time I've heard if it.

[TdeV]

@lemniscate posted about making layered chicken terrines which is similar, though perhaps more adventurous. The first post occurred Aug 20, 2019 and the recipe is posted August 24th.

[Anna N]

50 minutes ago, ElsieD said:

 

 

Thanks.  This is the first time I've heard if it.

There’s a topic for that.

[ElsieD]

18 hours ago, Anna N said:

There’s a topic for that.

 

Thanks!  I just read it and posted a request for @FeChef to confirm his brine and instructions.  I'd like to try it.

[rotuts]

I assume , based on the AirCanada pics

 

that KB  AKA  CD is back in The Toronto Area

 

thank you for taking us along

 

and I thank you for the Menus' pics

[Kerry Beal]

17 minutes ago, rotuts said:

I assume , based on the AirCanada pics

 

that KB  AKA  CD is back in The Toronto Area

 

thank you for taking us along

 

and I thank you for the Menus' pics

Yes we are home - back to the grind - dealing with all the stuff we left behind 

[FeChef]

2 hours ago, ElsieD said:

 

Thanks!  I just read it and posted a request for @FeChef to confirm his brine and instructions.  I'd like to try it.

 I just trussed two large boneless skinless breats with the thick ends opposit to make a round cylinder shape, brine in 500g of water, 20g of morton tender quick and 1 tsp of liquid smoke for 48 hours. Sous vide at 140F for 3-4 hours.