Stoves and Ovens: Wolf? Thermador? Bluestar? Viking?

[lindag]

7 minutes ago, Norm Matthews said:

It looks like the same. I have it with one letter different : JGB890SEJSS

 

 

Why two ovens?

[Norm Matthews]

@lindag Thanks for the mention. I had an electric GE stove top and and an electric GE oven recently. Both were good.  The guy at the appliance store said GE is doing some good things now days.

 

@Smithy That looks nice but I notice it's a slide-in and because I may put in new counters in the future, I think I need a free standing model now.

[Norm Matthews]

@lindag Just because. No real reason except once in a blue moon I may need two.  I like the smaller one for most of the cooking I may do.

[lindag]

But you have a CSO, no?

[rotuts]

@Norm Matthews 

 

interesting range

 

the blurb says the central griddle is non-stick

 

it that an issue long term ?

[Norm Matthews]

@rotuts I don't have an issue with the griddle. I doubt I will use it much.  I expect I will replace it with a regular grate like on the other two sides.

 

@lindag I just got a C Steam Oven and am not impressed with it so far. It's so small for one thing. I also have a B Smart Oven which is very nice and I use it all the time but both take up limited counter space in my small kitchen.

 

[rotuts]

didn't realize you could do that

 

thanks !

[Smithy]

1 hour ago, Norm Matthews said:

@lindag Thanks for the mention. I had an electric GE stove top and and an electric GE oven recently. Both were good.  The guy at the appliance store said GE is doing some good things now days.

 

@Smithy That looks nice but I notice it's a slide-in and because I may put in new counters in the future, I think I need a free standing model now.

 

My mistake on the link.  They also make a freestanding model. Oddly, it seems to cost considerably less than the slide-in version that I linked to earlier.  I wish I could justify buying a new oven and range!

[Norm Matthews]

19 minutes ago, Smithy said:

 

My mistake on the link.  They also make a freestanding model. Oddly, it seems to cost considerably less than the slide-in version that I linked to earlier.  I wish I could justify buying a new oven and range!

Very nice. I will look into it if there are any concerns that arise with the GE before I buy it.

[Paul Fink]

On 11/4/2006 at 5:45 PM, johnder said:

I thought the Viking stoves had 15k BTU vs. the Wolf which has 16k. At least that was the case when I did the research last year.

The advantage of the wolf is you can get dang hot flame or a low low low flame. You can forget  sauce on for hours on low flame and it

won't burn the sauce.

I've had the Wolf 12+ years, before subzero bought the line.

The real advantage of the Wolf is you make new friends. like the wolf repair man.

[Toliver]

On 9/16/2017 at 9:06 AM, lindag said:

 

Why two ovens?

If you can afford it, why not? Better to have two ovens and not use the second one than to need two ovens and not have them both.

My mom would have killed for a second oven when making holiday meals. She's a stickler for everything timed to be ready to eat (and hot) at the same time but with one oven, that's a pipe dream.

[Porthos]

On 9/16/2017 at 8:01 AM, weinoo said:

...my main gripe with the new prosumer class is the 5 burners...

 

I find the center burner on my stove to be worthless. When I am cooking there is no room for a fifth pan in the middle.

[lindag]

3 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

I find the center burner on my stove to be worthless. When I am cooking there is no room for a fifth pan in the middle.

 

Mine is similar...A long grill pan came with my GE it fits down the center but doesn't get the whole surface hot enough to cook anything.  Pretty worthless,

[weedy]

 Just going to say once that I've been VERY happy having switched to induction 

[Anna N]

1 hour ago, weedy said:

 Just going to say once that I've been VERY happy having switched to induction 

Me too!

[rotuts]

Id also switch to induction if it came w a high quality Combi-Oven

[gfweb]

We struggled with the choice of gas vs induction.

Finally it was the aesthetics of cooking with fire that won.

[rotuts]

I completely understand.

 

the BlueStar is a stunner

 

if they has a BS with a Combi  Id just give up and surrender.

[weinoo]

As I mentioned previously, induction was out of the question for us, as the electrical requirement cannot be met.

[quiet1]

On 9/16/2017 at 10:49 AM, Smithy said:

If you're looking at a double oven, you might consider this Samsung Flex Duo gas oven. It's expensive, but flexible in that it can be two ovens or one.  I have an older electric version of this.  What I like about it is that a partition can be added or removed to allow one to make 2 small oven compartments or a single 5.8 cu. ft. oven.  What I don't like about mine is that it has a single door, so that both oven compartments lose heat when you open the door. Samsung has solved that problem in its later models with a specially articulated door so that you can open only the top or open the entire door as one.  The handle latch seems to be foolproof. There are other pros and cons that I'll explain if anyone asks.

 

My best friend bought the single-chamber version of this oven earlier this year and is delighted with it so far.  The hottest burner is plenty hot for the stir-frying that they commonly do, and theirs came with a wok cradle. (The single-oven version was about $1000 less than this dual-chamber version.  I'd probably have paid the extra grand, considering the baking that I do, but to them it wasn't worth it.) They hated their previous smooth-top stove, and I haven't heard any complaints about cleaning this gas stove top.

 

I'm curious. I can see two ovens working for some of the things we do. Though I'm not thrilled with the burner arrangement, I never feel like I'd use that odd shaped center one. I'd rather have a slightly wider unit and 6 burners.

[Norm Matthews]

I was idly reading this topic a while ago and found that many people thought Blue Star was a great range.   I looked on the internet and found a dealer selling them about 3/4 mile from here. I went to look at it and another place as well.  The upshot of what they said was that it was built for COOKING. It was a restaurant stove built to be acceptable to domestic building codes.  Basically it was a tank.  It reminded me of the Garland I had in the restaurant I had all those years ago.  I also saw some more modest stoves and decided I'd actually prefer a nice pick-up truck instead of a tank.  They told me that GE was doing some really good things with ranges and a double oven appealed to me.  What cinched it was to learn that new technology had drastically brought down the cost of installing a new gas line in my house.  My glass top stove that was not all that old was acting up.  The smooth glass top always needed cleaning and the mess was always cooked on. I spent more time cleaning it than cooking with it.  The left front burner would not turn down sometimes. I never knew when I'd turn back a few minutes later and find it was cooking at top heat even though I'd turned it down.  The other front burner would not heat up very fast. I'd go back after a while thinking it was time to flip whatever was in the pan only to find it had not started cooking yet.  I ordered the stove I wanted and it was installed today.  It has a double oven with steam clean option and convection in the lower one.  The center griddle is replaceable with either a reversible cast iron one or a regular grate.  My first food to cook on it is a hamburger with the buns being toasted on the griddle.  Tomorrow I'll bake some bread in the upper oven.

 

edit PS In a few months I think I will have the range hood replaced with a matching over the range microwave.

 

Edited October 5, 2017 by Norm Matthews (log)

[rotuts]

@Norm Matthews 

 

that looks outstanding

 

would you pass on the exact model as Id like to look it up

 

interesting that the top oven looks larger than the bottom

 

cheers

[Norm Matthews]

@rotuts  Here is the exact model 

GE® 30" Free-Standing Gas Double Oven Convection Range

JGB860EEJES

 

the window in both ovens are the same but the insides are different.

[gfweb]

@Norm Matthews Nice stove.  Really nice. Well played, Norm. 

 

You are right , Blue Star is a beast. Garland in its genes. Built like a tank and no electronics other than pilotless burners, convection and an oven light. 

[Porthos]

@Norm Matthews Nice looking stove.

 

My DD and SIL bought a new house and went with a Samsung package. They also chose a range with the dual-oven. I need to ask my DD how they like it so far.