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liuzhou

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1 minute ago, liuzhou said:

 

Here you go (from the Spanish as translated by me):

 

Ingredients: Cooked rice (68%), vegetables (12%) (red pepper, peas, onion and tomato), seafood (10%) (squid (mollusk), mussel, shrimps), sunflower oil, natural flavors (fish and shellfish), salt and saffron extract.
 

 

 

So actually some saffron?

 

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liuzhou

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6 minutes ago, JoNorvelleWalker said:

 

So actually some saffron?

 

 

The Spanish reads ""extracto de azafrán", which means "extract of saffron", as I said. What extract of saffron is, I don't know.

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liuzhou

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OK. I succumbed. I'm not having my reputation maligned by a bunch of iconoclastic, irreverent Spaniards or Basques. I bought the damned stuff.

 

Opening the outer wrapper revealed this

 

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Ploughing on, I found this.

 

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Tipped the lot into a plate and put it in the microwave. They suggest 2 mins on high in an 800W oven. My microwave is only 400W, so I tried with three minutes.

Time up, I found this

 

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Tragic. It was mush. Bland, unseasoned, evil mush. No sign of the promised squid or shrimp; just a very few tiny mussels, and of course, it looked nothing like the package illustration.


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USD $4.44 down the toilet!

 

Repugnante y horrible!

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We appreciate the sacrifice you've made to gratify the nosiness morbid curiosity spirit of pure scientific inquiry in a group of far-off strangers. :)

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Anna N

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7 hours ago, liuzhou said:

USD $4.44 down the toilet!

All I can say is that it was only money down the toilet. Might have been quite different had you made a meal of it. :laugh:

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5 minutes ago, Anna N said:

All I can say is that it was only money down the toilet. Might have been quite different had you made a meal of it. :laugh:

 

Still could be!

I did eat it.  I wouldn't call it a meal though. Barely a starter. Barely food. Shame really, I love Spanish food.

Still, I've done my good deed for the month, taking one for the team and  preventing some poor unsuspecting Chinese person thinking this is actually anything like paella or anything else Spanish.

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Anna N

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10 minutes ago, liuzhou said:

I did eat it.

Oh! That is really carrying things a bit far! Can only admire your altruism.  

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DesertTinker

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1 hour ago, Anna N said:

Oh! That is really carrying things a bit far! Can only admire your altruism.  

And your thriftiness, especially after reading this “It was mush. Bland, unseasoned, evil mush.”

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liuzhou

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12 minutes ago, DesertTinker said:

And your thriftiness, especially after reading this “It was mush. Bland, unseasoned, evil mush.”

 

All in the interest of scientific research!

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liuzhou

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I just think this is weird.

 

But first, I admire how, in Chinese dinner parties at home (or in a restaurant), no one thinks twice if offered a store-bought dish along with home cooked. This was a friend's food a few days ago. She has given her permission for me to post it here.

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I could make out that plastic box contains what I took to be salmon, some slices of lemon and what appears to be mayonnaise, but to be sure I asked her. She sent me the ingredients label, which fortunately she still had.

 

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This lists the ingredients as: Atlantic salmon, butter, mayonnnaise, garlic, vegetable oil, Moravian cheese, salt, lemon and spices.

 

This is odd in itself. Moravianan cheese, I'm taking to be Olomoucké tvarůžky, the soft cheese from Loštice, Moravia, in the Czech Republic, rather than the Italian-sounding Gran Moravia, the hard cheese, also made in the Czech Republic, but using traditional Italian methods. But who knows? Not my friend.

But what really spooks me is that it comes with clear instructions on how to cook the dish:

Home oven:  Bake for 8-10 minutes at 200℃; or pan fry on a low heat for about 3 minutes.

Yet, there it is on the table, clearly uncooked. Of course, I asked my friend.

"Oh! I didn't notice that! I thought it tasted a bit strange, but just guessed that is what foreign food is meant to taste like!"
 

Full marks for being adventurous, zero for reading her own language.

P.S. She teaches Chinese language in a high school!

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On 7/16/2021 at 9:41 PM, liuzhou said:

extracto de azafrán

Having lived in a Latin country for 30 years I can tell you that  azafrán does not really mean anything. It may say it is saffron and you may think it is saffron but it is just something that gives it the color. It may be turmeric, it may be achiote or even just yellow food coloring. But ninety-nine times out of a hundred, it's not saffron.

I just got out my box of Goya with azafrán and the ingredient list has Mexican azafrán on it. Here is what Reddit says about that.

 

It's safflower, not saffron.

Safflower is known as “Mexican saffron” or azafran. Aside from the fact that it comes from a completely different plant, another difference is that the petals are the part of this plant that are used and not the stigmas. Safflower has commonly been passed off as saffron as it has a similar ability to color food along with a pleasant, distinctive flavor."

One commenter on Chowhound said it all. "If it's cheap it's not saffron"

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9 hours ago, Tropicalsenior said:

Having lived in a Latin country for 30 years I can tell you that  azafrán does not really mean anything. It may say it is saffron and you may think it is saffron but it is just something that gives it the color. It may be turmeric, it may be achiote or even just yellow food coloring. But ninety-nine times out of a hundred, it's not saffron.

I just got out my box of Goya with azafrán and the ingredient list has Mexican azafrán on it. Here is what Reddit says about that.

 

It's safflower, not saffron.

Safflower is known as “Mexican saffron” or azafran. Aside from the fact that it comes from a completely different plant, another difference is that the petals are the part of this plant that are used and not the stigmas. Safflower has commonly been passed off as saffron as it has a similar ability to color food along with a pleasant, distinctive flavor."

One commenter on Chowhound said it all. "If it's cheap it's not saffron"

 

Yes, Thanks. I am aware that a lot of 'saffron' isn't saffron. Some time back I was given a gift of 'Thai' spices which included 'saffron' and 'saffran'. One was saffron, the other was probably safflower.

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Wait. Wot

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5 minutes ago, Tropicalsenior said:

Why don't we have a disgusting emoji?

 

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I give up trying to move that emoji. 

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Tropicalsenior

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7 minutes ago, liuzhou said:

Sheep Dip, on the other hand is rather good. 

 

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The makers of this have obviously never been around real sheep dip. It's one of the more disgusting things in the world. It is right up there with a mouthwash that my old dentist gave me. He said it tasted like hog piss. Not being an authority on the taste of hog piss I couldn't verify this but it certainly smelled like the real article.

liuzhou

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33 minutes ago, Tropicalsenior said:

The makers of this have obviously never been around real sheep dip.

 

Actually, it was invented by a farmer, although now belongs to a large whisky group. 

 

See here for the history.

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52 minutes ago, Wait. Wot said:

This is wrong on so many levels:

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Presumably so the Reese's fans can mix it with creme de cacao? Or maybe just chocolate milk?

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Tropicalsenior

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1 hour ago, liuzhou said:

Actually, it was invented by a farmer,

The article said that he was a gentleman farmer. Obviously he didn't do the dipping himself. However, the story of being able to run it through their books without paying the taxes was amusing. Hence, the whole reason for the name.

Anna N

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How about peanut butter mixed with sheep dip? What could possibly go wrong?Here.

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Tropicalsenior

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3 hours ago, Wait. Wot said:

This is wrong on so many levels:

 

17 minutes ago, Anna N said:

How about peanut butter mixed with sheep dip?

It seems like this is what started the whole subject.

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liuzhou

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This morning I passed by a local branch of Starbucks and saw this sign outside.

 

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Starbucks Cloud™ Beer Flavored Latte⁈ What is wrong with them⁈

 

No doubt served with these.

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