Breville Smart Oven Air

[rotuts]

looking over the manual 

 

pp 25 is slow cooking .  I was looking for an ability to set the slow cook temp

 

and was unable to find one.    there seems to be a low and a high setting for slow cooking

 

I could not find what temps those were .  pp 19 has a warm function and the low on that is 160F  , no lower

 

 

thats a real shame .  slow cooking at 140F  , vern 135 F  , if reasonably accurate   would be a mighty fine feature :

 

SV like temps , but in a pan , covered  w foil , avoiding vac equipment , circulator and container  for occational

 

SB  up to 72 hours.    Im sure this temp would be easily to program into the machine

 

but the vendor has terrors of cooking < 160 g   too bad.

 

 

[Shel_B]

3 minutes ago, Laurentius said:

 

You sure this isn't the cutoff for dehydrating?

It's the cutoff point for several modes when used at low temperature.

[Laurentius]

1 minute ago, Shel_B said:

It's the cutoff point for several modes when used at low temperature.

 

Yeah, I see that now.  Considering that those modes include Roast and Bake, I wonder if you boost the temperature in those (after starting at 210F), the appliance shortens the cutoff time.  I sure hope so.

[rotuts]

slow:

 

[ElsieD]

I no longer have the BSOA, I replaced it with the Cuisinart Steam Oven which I much prefer.  The air fry and toaster functions on the BSOA sucked.

[gfweb]

1 hour ago, ElsieD said:

I no longer have the BSOA, I replaced it with the Cuisinart Steam Oven which I much prefer.  The air fry and toaster functions on the BSOA sucked.

 

It toasts. Not sure how it could be better.

 

CSO is great too I use that a lot for the steam cooking.

[palo]

The CSO was good, it had steam, but was too small 

The BSOA was better (size), but no steam

The APO is the best, size, variable steam, temperature probe

 

I have/had all three

 

p

[Shel_B]

5 hours ago, ElsieD said:

I no longer have the BSOA, I replaced it with the Cuisinart Steam Oven which I much prefer.  The air fry and toaster functions on the BSOA sucked.

Hi ...in what way did the toast function disappoint you?  The toast made in my BSO is acceptable to me. Perhaps we have different standards? Can the toast in the two ovens be very different?

[gfweb]

6 hours ago, Shel_B said:

Hi ...in what way did the toast function disappoint you?  The toast made in my BSO is acceptable to me. Perhaps we have different standards? Can the toast in the two ovens be very different?

 

There's a sect on eG that LOVES the CSO toast.  They appreciate things that  I don't notice, I guess.  I will say that the sealed CSO has a moist heat (from the food) that might have an impact.

[rotuts]

CSO toast have the doneness and crispy surface you would expect from a quality toaster

 

but s the oven is sealed , unlike the Breville ovens

 

the CSO toast does not dry out completely

 

the center is ' fluffy '  w surfaces crispy.

 

best toast ever I think

 

 

[btbyrd]

There are smart ovens and there are toasters. The former might claim to be the latter, but I'm in the "it's best to have both" camp. I don't eat that much toast, so all I have is the BSOAFP. Its toast takes forever. It is uneven. It is acceptable. 

[ElsieD]

9 hours ago, Shel_B said:

Hi ...in what way did the toast function disappoint you?  The toast made in my BSO is acceptable to me. Perhaps we have different standards? Can the toast in the two ovens be very different?

 

It was very uneven.

[Katie Meadow]

2 hours ago, btbyrd said:

There are smart ovens and there are toasters. The former might claim to be the latter, but I'm in the "it's best to have both" camp. I don't eat that much toast, so all I have is the BSOAFP. Its toast takes forever. It is uneven. It is acceptable. 

If you eat toast every morning like I do, "acceptable" is a far cry from just right. Toast shouldn't take forever, but relatively slow is better than fast. Beware of  toast makers that advertise fast cooking; the outside gets browned and the inside is under-toasted. I have a Smeg toaster, and I like it. The perfect toaster doesn't exist.

 

My daughter in Atlanta has an air fryer, which produces pretty good toast but does take a very long time. I don't have an air-fryer or smart oven., but I admit to being impressed by how fast the air-fryer made "roast" potatoes. When you have hungry and impatient 3-yr olds that is definitely an advantage.

[Laurentius]

13 hours ago, Shel_B said:

Hi ...in what way did the toast function disappoint you?

I think I'm on my 3rd or 4th large BSO, and I agree they suck at toast.  The toast cycles take forever for any breads with no sugar, and the toast comes out too dry for my liking.

 

Toast from the smaller sizes may be better.

 

The air frying function I find seriously uneven. 

[Shel_B]

33 minutes ago, Laurentius said:

The air frying function I find seriously uneven. 

Please define what you mean by uneven. Items in the tray cooked to different degrees? Individual batches cooked differently under similar conditions? Or ... ?

[Laurentius]

On 6/28/2024 at 1:00 PM, Shel_B said:

Items in the tray cooked to different degrees?

 

Yeah.  Major differences in browning, depending on placement on the mesh tray.  If I want even browning, I have to both turn and rearrange.  And if there are many pieces you can never get that 100% right.

[btbyrd]

BSOAFP vs Wonder Bread.

[Shel_B]

34 minutes ago, btbyrd said:

BSOAFP vs Wonder Bread.

That's a nice image, but perhaps more useful would be how toast in the BSOAFP compares to toast made in other, especially Breville, ovens.  Perhaps others can post their toast pictures.

 

Without making and photographing toast in my BSOP, I'd say that my toast is a little more even, BUT rarely do I make the type of toast you've made, and never have I made six slices, so I'd say my experience is apples to oranges.

Edited July 2, 2024 by Shel_B (log)

[Laurentius]

22 hours ago, Shel_B said:

That's a nice image

 

This comports with my toasting experience in the large BSO.  Disappointingly uneven.  There are variables for rack position(s), bread shape, dough, etc., but it's not very good at toasting, IMO

[JeanneCake]

I have an old GE toaster oven and the only thing I use it for is toast; I've gotten it to where I know where to place the slices and what setting to use to get what I want.  Husby and kid however think it takes up valuable real estate on the counter and want me to ditch it in favor of the BSOA, which is what they use to make toast.

 

We are at an impasse.  I'm not giving up the toaster oven.  Although it IS taking up counter space and I'd love to have room to put the air fryer I bought (at @rotuts suggestion last year!  And it was a good one :)!!) without having to play tetris when I want to use the AF.

[Shel_B]

2 hours ago, JeanneCake said:

I have an old GE toaster oven and the only thing I use it for is toast

[...]

We are at an impasse.  I'm not giving up the toaster oven.  Although it IS taking up counter space 

@JeanneCake ... My current BSOP replaced a Breville Mini oven, but before giving the small unit to a neighbor, I had both.  The small unit fit atop the larger one, and for a short time I had both. Vertical space was a non-issue, although having both on the counter top space available to me was not happening.  Is your situation that you could do something similar?

Edited July 4, 2024 by Shel_B (log)

[Laurentius]

14 hours ago, JeanneCake said:

We are at an impasse.

I think that many people now have never had or used a quality toaster.  The key word is 'quality',  If a $20 Black & Decker is the only data point, maybe the BSO isn't terrible.  But if you grew up with a Sunbeam T-20, the only reason to prefer a toaster oven is the oven part.

[rotuts]

@Laurentius

 

I grew up w that toaster.

 

made fie toast

 

for me , the CSO makes better toast.   its the fluffy innards that make it better for me

 

and :  CSO take various thickness's , w no jamming of the bread.

 

Ive had two Breville's . mediocre toast at best.

[Laurentius]

6 minutes ago, rotuts said:

for me , the CSO makes better toast.

Maybe you're right.  I've never tried CSO toast.

 

My parents made "Beach Toast" in an ancient Frigidaire oven at their cabin.  As a kid, I loved that--by association.  But it wasn't toast.  It was rusks.  BSO toast is on the road to ruskdom IMO.

[ElsieD]

I used to have a Black and Decker toaster.  It made fine toast.   Itt was given to me by a friend who had already used it for a number of years.  My last toaster prior to the one I have now was a Breville die cast toaster which worked initially but after a while you needed to stand there, watch it, flip the bread at least once to get something resembling even browning.  I tired of this and bought a Cuisinart which also requires flipping.  I have a CSO which makes lousy toast but is otherwise a great little machine.  I've also had 2 BSOPs and neither of them made good toast.  The upshot of all this is that cheap little B & D toaster made the best toast.