Chris Kimball is leaving America's Test Kitchen - contract dispute

[curls]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/11/16/chris-kimball-leave-america-test-kitchen-after-contract-dispute/wd7vooqjnDgqNq0qnlmXCO/story.html

[rotuts]

Interersting

 

I would have thought CK had a much bigger chunk of the pie.

 

if not a controlling interest.

Edited November 17, 2015 by rotuts (log)

[curls]

Indeed. It will be interesting to see how the show changes without him. Also wonder if he will still be the voice behind Cooks Illustrated.

[weinoo]

Watch them bury this brand, just like the Food Network has done, as has Chowhound.

[rotuts]

I wish I knew more about the finances of PBS Cooking shows. they seem to be very lucrative, have lots of ads etc

 

I wish I knew the history of the Kimball Empire :   a really good idea : no ads, testing R's    then expansion, investing, a questionable business model

 

( re-publishing w no ref to earlier works, beyond aggressive marketing ) , vast wealth, etc

 

indeed the TV show had two episodes on a butterflied pork loin roast at one point that only differed a tiny bit on the salt, and how you 'opened-up' the loin.

 

how did this guy ever lose control of the company ?

Edited November 17, 2015 by rotuts (log)

[lindag]

I can't imagine ATK without Kimball,  In my mind, having followed him since the beginning, the guy is a genius.

Listening to him on his ATK podcasts, my opinion in reinforced regularly.

[gfweb]

That's the thing with ATK and CI, they get repetitive.

 

But giving credit where it is due, ATK remains about cooking and not silly foodish crap like FN has become.

[rotuts]

and the TV shows are generally instructive.  they could do a little more  : removing tendons on chicken and turkey breasts is my pet peeve

 

 

when a sponsored product did not meet their standards  ( the newest KA processor ) they stopped using it on the show

 

they use a only Cuisinart but turn it so you can't see the name    duh

 

everybody knows its a cuisinart

 

they published their reasoning, but is the smallest side-bar passible in only one of their repetitive publications.

 

Sad it will be when there will no longer be   " The Best Rx " edition 38.

 

on the bright side, I think pork chops have been completely covered.

 

[GlorifiedRice]

Last Sunday he read a viewer letter that someone had wrote, who told him that "Chris Kimball shouldnt be on the show, cause he does nothing"

And it was odd how he didnt really respond with anything, and it cut to the credits....

 

Very odd

[rotuts]

this is a good point

 

what does he really do these days ?

[dcarch]

CK's formal training is a degree in Primitive Art.

 

Other than he had taken a few courses in cooking, he does not have much background in the food business, prior to ATK.

 

dcarch

[gfweb]

CK is the Ringmaster of ATK

[rotuts]

to be a bit more fair :

 

He did manage to publish several cook books and a previous 'Cook's' magazine, which he sold, prior to founding the Golden Goose, INC. LLP.

 

I have taken no cooking courses, and have no background in the food business, other than a Day-to-Day study of the Market and its Shelves.

 

I have published no cookbooks either

 

My TML w trimmings is the Best of its Kind, bar none. I consistently give it 5 stars.

 

to be fair, I also wore bow-ties a long long time ago, to avoid small children's antics.

 

I gave them up and just wore pajamas all day.

 

"  CK is the Ringmaster of ATK "

 

one who seems to have lost his whip.

Edited November 17, 2015 by rotuts (log)

[gfweb]

I think CK wanted out. Could've stayed, but chose to go.  Which may be the best for him.

 

ATK may well regret their low offer. From a comment on twitter it would appear that CK has no non-compete clause.

[AlaMoi]

I, for one, will not miss him or the show.  which I agree with multiple sentiments - is currently on the doomed list.

 

I found his approach so superficial and seemingly uniformed as to be totally dismissive.  it came across as "I am me and I am my own expert and you are you and since you're watching here's what you should think."

 

if one goes back to the old Consumer Reports (dropped it long time ago, no clue as to their current mode) they would explain what they tested and how they tested it - and then the ratings / rankings / results.  if one had a brain, one could decipher whether or not what they did applied to one's situation.  ATK runs along the lines of "We did everything and this is the best" - or perhaps more accurately "this is the one that paid us the best sponsorship."

 

the few times I sat through the program I was left thinking:  "What planet does this dude cook on?"

 

[GlorifiedRice]

I love the show and Chris, Ill have nothing to watch now.

[Porthos]

What little I did watch did not hook me. It takes a lot for me to commit to just about anything on TV

 

Of course I shell out over $80 a month for my Dish TV and rarely turn it on. I got it for the 2014 Olympics. Since my contract runs only a few months before the 2016 Olympics I will keep it until that's over. Then my DW and I will decide whether to keep it or not.

 

Food Network and their second channel (can't remember the name) do absolutely nothing for me.

[rotuts]

Well

 

consider

 

over the Air  HD TV

 

free  if you are in the right areas

 

next Olympics ?  well .........

[Lisa Shock]

I wish I knew more about the finances of PBS Cooking shows. they seem to be very lucrative, have lots of ads etc.

 

Much like FN, the PBS shows don't much more than break even on their own. The real money is in selling cookbooks, branded cookware, foods, and promoting restaurants. I learned this from watching a biography of Rick Bayless and his empire.

[Toliver]

I received an email from ATK/CI this morning regarding the changing of the guard, so to speak, at their headquarters as they bid adieu to Chris Kimball and his bow ties.

The email states they wish him the best and announced that the new hosts of "ATK" will be Julia Collin Davison and Bridget Lancaster, who were the main test chefs featured on the show for years. The email mentioned that there were "ATK" shows in the can with Chris hosting which will air during the rest of this year and that the new hosts will takeover starting in the 2017 season.

It also said there will be new hosts for "Cook's Country" but that there was no news on that front at the moment.

The email also mentioned that Chris will continue hosting the ATK Radio show (which I had no idea that it even existed)..

[rotuts]

Nice

 

i was wondering about this my self

 

not too much  just a liftle

 

sooooooo

 

CK ( Chisssssey K ) was suposed to annouce a New Venture

 

at the end of Jan

 

Nada ?

 

I for one cap the shows

 

get the books out of the Library 

 

soooo

 

Ck is doing what ?

[robie]

IMO, Christopher Kimball is very 2005.  The show needs to be refreshed or die.

[AlaMoi]

2005?

 

perhaps 1975?.....

 

"do as I say, don't ask questions, I know best . . . ."

[rotuts]

""  give me lots of your money ""

[Kim Shook]

I am among the few that actually like CK.  Not wildly, but I enjoy watching him.  I also respect what he created.  But, I LOVE Bridget and Julia and am disappointed when they aren't on a show.  So I will be fine with the change.