The Crusty Chronicles. Savories from Bakeries.

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36 minutes ago, liuzhou said:

 

I did once meet a middle-aged Scottish woman here in China who complained to me that she couldn't find “mince“ in the local supermarkets. I told that she could find beef and ask them to mince it! She looked baffled. 

 

“I don't want beef! I want mince!“

 

Quite which animal she thought her Scottish “mince“ came from never became clear! 

 

 

Similarly I had a customer laugh over the label on a bucket of meat-free mincemeat filling. She assumed it was because uninformed people thought that "just because mincemeat had "meat" in the name, people worried that their holiday mince tarts/pies would, in fact, contain meat!" She was very entertained over this...until I gently explained to her that mincemeat ordinarily does (or at least, traditionally did) contain meat, and showed her a few recipes. She was appalled.

 

Here in New Brunswick, fwiw, old-timers generally use the neck from their season's deer (or a neighbour's) to make their mincemeat.

[Anna N]

Now for something a little different. @Kerry Beal made a trip to
 

 

 

 

and came out with one of these. I will paraphrase the information that I was able to glean from the Internet.  
 

Similar in some ways to a Cornish pasty, a Scottish bridie is a meat and onion filled pastry. Generally made with shortcrust pastry, some versions especially outside of Scotland, use flaky pastry. 
 

 It is a handheld pie if you wish. It originates from the town of Forfar. 
 

I am quite certain that @liuzhou will set me straight if I have misspoken. 

 

 

I reheated it for 20 minutes in a 350° oven. 
 

Once again I was prepared to dislike this. I have had some awful Cornish pasties in my life so I wasn’t feeling all that positive about a bridie. But this was quite delicious. You can see how flaky the pastry is in the filling was tasty, moist and.plentiful.

 

But Opie’s lost brownie points for only making beef sausage rolls. Really? They make no pork products which made me wonder if perhaps it was a cultural/religious thing but they do in fact carry pork sausages made elsewhere. So there went that theory. 
 

I believe that Kerry slipped another one of these into my freezer. At least I surely hope she did!

 

 

[liuzhou]

3 minutes ago, Anna N said:

I am quite certain that @liuzhou will set me straight if I have misspoken. 

 

No, you haven't. I love a good bridie, although I haven't had one in many years. The best still come from Forfar.

[Kerry Beal]

2 minutes ago, Anna N said:

Now for something a little different. @Kerry Beal made a trip to
 

 

I believe that Kerry slipped another one of these into my freezer. At least I surely hope she did!

 

 

Nope she took it home for the child - but I'll bring it back tomorrow if you'd like.

 

Here's the beef sausage roll from Opies. 

 

 

10 min at 325º F (kid doesn't like things too hot)

 

 

 

 

Lots of lovely flakes. 

 

You have one of these in your freezer!

[Anna N]

1 hour ago, Kerry Beal said:

Nope she took it home for the child - but I'll bring it back tomorrow if you'd like.

No no no no no. Please feed it to Kira!

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[Kerry Beal]

I will as long as you promise to try the beef sausage roll.

[Anna N]

5 minutes ago, Kerry Beal said:

I will as long as you promise to try the beef sausage roll.

No worries. I will be trying the beef sausage roll. (As much as it offends my delicate sensibility.)

[Kim Shook]

From looks only Opie's seems to win the pastry prize - flaky with no visible goo!

[Kerry Beal]

23 minutes ago, Anna N said:

No worries. I will be trying the beef sausage roll. (As much as it offends my delicate sensibility.)

if you only eat the pastry you'll be happy!

[Kerry Beal]

5 minutes ago, Kim Shook said:

From looks only Opie's seems to win the pastry prize - flaky with no visible goo!

Indeed - no goo at all. Must the the beef sausage!

[demiglace]

3 hours ago, Anna N said:

Now for something a little different. @Kerry Beal made a trip to
 

 

 

 

and came out with one of these. I will paraphrase the information that I was able to glean from the Internet.  
 

Similar in some ways to a Cornish pasty, a Scottish bridie is a meat and onion filled pastry. Generally made with shortcrust pastry, some versions especially outside of Scotland, use flaky pastry. 
 

 It is a handheld pie if you wish. It originates from the town of Forfar. 
 

I am quite certain that @liuzhou will set me straight if I have misspoken. 

 

 

I reheated it for 20 minutes in a 350° oven. 
 

Once again I was prepared to dislike this. I have had some awful Cornish pasties in my life so I wasn’t feeling all that positive about a bridie. But this was quite delicious. You can see how flaky the pastry is in the filling was tasty, moist and.plentiful.

 

But Opie’s lost brownie points for only making beef sausage rolls. Really? They make no pork products which made me wonder if perhaps it was a cultural/religious thing but they do in fact carry pork sausages made elsewhere. So there went that theory. 
 

I believe that Kerry slipped another one of these into my freezer. At least I surely hope she did!

 

 

Dang that looks good!

[CantCookStillTry]

I am with you on the beef thing. Everything sausagey is beef by default here in Australia - which is wrong - pork first. 

 

Spent a while thinking everyone was feeding me mouldy food when I first got off the boat and stayed at a hostel (cheap bbq beef sausage- when expecting pork). The taste was wrong.

 

I will endeavour to get to the local bakery just to offend you guys. Not only does their sausage roll contain beef, it is also filled with chia seeds. 

Edited September 11, 2020 by CantCookStillTry (log)

[Anna N]

. For breakfast this morning I thought I would commit to trying beef sausage rolls. Like military intelligence its an oxymoron in my book. These are from Zarkys.

from my freezer.

 

 

after being reheated. 
 

And the inside. 
 

Definitely not my favourite roll. The pastry to filling ratio was definitely off but this time I would have to say it needed more pastry not more filling. I didn’t like the texture of the filling and the taste was tolerable but not particularly interesting. I need to develop some sort of database to keep track of these things. 

[Kerry Beal]

Had the remaining bridie this morning 

 

 

 

 

Great flaky pastry - filling perfectly seasoned.

[CantCookStillTry]

Our bakery is not open on weekends so I haven't taken that sausage roll for the team yet, but I did go to a party, and to spare @haresfur these are 'Party Pies/Rolls'. 

 

Just small pies and sausage rolls (beef) that are seemingly a staple of any Australian youth / Footie game goer. 

The pastry is sh!te, the meat filling is questionable - but pretty much everybody that grew up here loves them. I don't hate them, but then I would eat pretty much any meat in pastry ever. 

 

But not with Ketchup. Heathens. 

[Anna N]

For breakfast this morning I thought I would commit to trying beef sausage rolls. Like military intelligence its an oxymoron in my book. These are from 
 

from my freezer.

 

 

after being reheated. 
 

And the inside. Definitely not my favourite. 

[Anna N]

If you are on a bland diet this would be perfect.

 

 

This is the Scottish meat pie from Opie’s. I forgot to take a before picture so this is it after beIng reheated in the oven.  
 

 

And the inside. Apart from there being too much pastry and too little seasoning there’s not much I can say about this. I was able to choke it down with a too generous squirt of HP sauce. 

[liuzhou]

10 hours ago, Anna N said:

Apart from there being too much pastry and too little seasoning there’s not much I can say about this.

 

Too little seasoning is a major fail.  A decent Scotch Pie is well seasoned.

 

10 hours ago, Anna N said:

For breakfast this morning I thought I would commit to trying beef sausage rolls. Like military intelligence its an oxymoron in my book.

 

I have nothing against a good beef sausage. My "real" butcher, Norman*, in London, used to make me a few pounds of his wonderful beef chipolatas every Christmas, but couldn't sell them to other customers. Their loss. He finally retired early, tired of fighting the nearby supermarkets where the "butchers" knew nothing about meat except sealing it in plastic wrap! Grrrr!

 

That said, I am 100% behind the banning of beef sausage rolls. What a ridiculous concept.

* Always be on first name terms with your butcher! And fishmonger!

[haresfur]

On 9/10/2020 at 12:59 AM, liuzhou said:

 I like "Beef Meat Pies". As opposed to "Beef Fruit Pies"?

 

No beef offal pies?

[liuzhou]

1 minute ago, haresfur said:

 

No beef offal pies?

 

Sure! Beef and kidney are normal. Grew up on them.

 

[CantCookStillTry]

At the risk of being booted from the forum, I must confess, one of my favourite childhood meals was a steak and kidney pie from a.. ahem.. a can. 

Fray Bentos was the brand. I thought they were magic with the way the pastry rose out of the tin - my favourite part was the uncooked soggy pastry right on top of the gravy... shall I see myself out? 

 

 

Not my image screen grabbed from a google search. They sell them over here but my husband would not get over me spending $8.50 on a pie thats in a can. 

 

[liuzhou]

6 minutes ago, CantCookStillTry said:

At the risk of being booted from the forum, I must confess, one of my favourite childhood meals was a steak and kidney pie from a.. ahem.. a can. 

Fray Bentos was the brand. I thought they were magic with the way the pastry rose out of the tin - my favourite part was the uncooked soggy pastry right on top of the gravy... shall I see myself out? 

 

Hmmm. well for now we'll let you stay unti you see the errors of your ways! We will be monitoring!

I remember those canned pies, but never knowingly ate one. That said, my mother wasn't only a dreadful cook, but also very devious,  so who knows?

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2 hours ago, CantCookStillTry said:

At the risk of being booted from the forum, I must confess, one of my favourite childhood meals was a steak and kidney pie from a.. ahem.. a can. 

Fray Bentos was the brand. I thought they were magic with the way the pastry rose out of the tin - my favourite part was the uncooked soggy pastry right on top of the gravy... shall I see myself out?

 

Everybody gets a pass on childhood favorites. "Adult me" makes a very fine beef-barley soup, for example, but every once in a while I need to eat Campbell's.

 

(shrug) It is what it is. When I was a kid I thought Velveeta and Cheez Whiz were the Greatest Things Ever. Oh, and a similar processed cheese "food" called Squeeze-a-Snack, a little chub of squidgy orange goo with a dispenser in the middle. It was in a star shape, so the cheese-adjacent product within would pipe itself onto your waiting cracker as if it came from a piping bag's star tip. Sooooo classy.

[rotuts]

@CantCookStillTry 

 

wow   Id love to try one of those canned pies !

 

do you take off the lid and bake it in the bottom , so it rises ?

 

I can see your fascination w it .   I would have been fascinated too !

[Shelby]

2 hours ago, CantCookStillTry said:

At the risk of being booted from the forum, I must confess, one of my favourite childhood meals was a steak and kidney pie from a.. ahem.. a can. 

Fray Bentos was the brand. I thought they were magic with the way the pastry rose out of the tin - my favourite part was the uncooked soggy pastry right on top of the gravy... shall I see myself out? 

 

 

Not my image screen grabbed from a google search. They sell them over here but my husband would not get over me spending $8.50 on a pie thats in a can. 

 

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