F .BLUMLEIN Steam Convection Oven

[Kerry Beal]

Just for shit's and giggles - toast under Combi at 390 and see if we get something more like the CSO would do - please and thank you. 

[md8232]

Do you have a favorite bread that I can find at Walmart?

[Kerry Beal]

1 minute ago, md8232 said:

Do you have a favorite bread that I can find at Walmart?

I'm in Canada - how about just a squidgy white bread like wonder bread 

[rotuts]

Id say this ;

 

get a bread that you might like to eat yourself ,

 

w ' good crumb '

 

a billion years ago , almost it seems

 

https://www.pepperidgefarm.com/product-categories/breads-buns-rolls/

 

had a Toasting White .  it had good crumb and was thicker than the average commercial bread.

 

some time after getting a CSO  ( ++ )

 

I looked for that bread , but it had been discontinued

 

rats.

 

get a bread that you would enjoy yourself

 

for fun , a white bread , and a darker bread.

 

Im pleased that you can venture out , so please follow The Rules.

 

thanks agin for your work here

 

"""  Amazon Prime @ Prime Day discounts the FBCO by [ fill in the blank ] "

 

one way or another this will be in my Dreams Tonight.

 

only if I open a bottle of TJ's Rouge 

 

thinking about it , BTW

 

P.S.:   the freshest bread in the store is in the way back of the loafs

 

try that.  just saying.   don't stay too long in the store , please 

Edited May 21, 2020 by rotuts (log)

[md8232]

OK  Science time. 
Per Kerry, I used Combi @ 390. 
All pictures are: L - R

Wonder Bread, Pepperidge Farm White Sandwich, & Pepperidge Farm Farmhouse Butter Bread. 
Times are: 4 minutes  6 minutes 8 minutes 

[md8232]

I took a bite of each after the 8 minute mark. 

Not much of a tender interior. 
I could accept them with butter. 
 

Some steam each time I opened the door. 
I used the top rack. 

 

Our goat loves bread.  He’ll be in heaven with the Wonder Bread.
 

Edited May 21, 2020 by md8232
Added remark (log)

[rotuts]

@md8232 

 

you are so on top of this !

 

i might have to go to E-Bay and find an old

 

but functional 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimeograph

 

machine.  you know the kind , smelled like benzene ?

 

for more Kudos your Way.

 

but  .....

 

how do those Toasts compare to the CSO ?

 

Ill oder more ink of the Mimeo

 

just in case !

[md8232]

Moar Science!

 

I used the CSO on toast setting 3 on the middle rack. I would have pulled them sooner if making my morning toast, but let them go the full cycle. 
the bottoms were partially browned unlike the FB. 

My lesson is watch closely and pull once toast is to your liking. 
I still think the FB won’t shine at toast or tea. 
 

I’m willing to do more Science as needed. 
 

 

[rotuts]

thank you 

 

again.

 

i believe you are correct :

 

the FBCO might do a lot of things well , and very well

 

its not going to do Toast well.

 

as re : CSO

[md8232]

Just tried my pizza steel and it is too long one way and too short the other.

If I keep the FB, will probably get a steel sized to fit the oven.

I say steel, but have been reading that Aluminum may be the new wonder metal.

[ElsieD]

6 hours ago, rotuts said:

Id say this ;

 

get a bread that you might like to eat yourself ,

 

w ' good crumb '

 

a billion years ago , almost it seems

 

https://www.pepperidgefarm.com/product-categories/breads-buns-rolls/

 

had a Toasting White .  it had good crumb and was thicker than the average commercial bread.

 

some time after getting a CSO  ( ++ )

 

I looked for that bread , but it had been discontinued

 

rats.

 

get a bread that you would enjoy yourself

 

for fun , a white bread , and a darker bread.

 

Im pleased that you can venture out , so please follow The Rules.

 

thanks agin for your work here

 

"""  Amazon Prime @ Prime Day discounts the FBCO by [ fill in the blank ] "

 

one way or another this will be in my Dreams Tonight.

 

only if I open a bottle of TJ's Rouge 

 

thinking about it , BTW

 

P.S.:   the freshest bread in the store is in the way back of the loafs

 

try that.  just saying.   don't stay too long in the store , please 

 

 

I remember eating their raisin bread.  That was tasty stuff.

[FauxPas]

11 hours ago, Kerry Beal said:

I contacted the company - they won't ship to Canada unfortunately - but before I figure out some way to get my hands on one of these I need to know if it can take the place of the CSO on the counter. CSO's first job every morning is toast.

 

Amazon will ship it to Canada via AmazonGlobal but they'll charge an extra $335 US for the shipping. There are also import fees which would not be more than $113 US. 

 

Quote

 

You won't be charged additional fees if the actual Import Fees exceed the Import Fees Deposit we estimated. For items sold by Amazon Marketplace sellers, please check the seller's policies.

If the actual Import Fees are less than the Import Fees Deposit collected by us on your behalf, you'll automatically be refunded the difference to the payment method you used for the order. 

 

 

So, it will almost double the cost, but it can be shipped to Canada. 😀

 

[Kerry Beal]

I do have a plan that would get it to me. But I need to be sure it makes toast equivalent to the CSO first! 

[MokaPot]

11 hours ago, rotuts said:

the question is :

 

crusty surface and soft inner 1/2 ?

 

CSO accomplishes this by keeping the fresh breads steam in the sealed CSO box ,

 

so the bread does not dry out under the heat , but browns nicely.

 

What's so good about CSO toast? What's the "ideal" for toast? I'm assuming that ideal toast is not melba toast / biscotti-like toast. Is it like @rotuts is describing, crusty surface(s) and soft (semi-moist) interior? TIA.

[JoNorvelleWalker]

Maybe it depends on what breads you are starting with.  All I bake are French lean breads.  CSO toast is quite OK, nothing I would write home about.

 

[rotuts]

""  What's the "ideal" for toast?  ""

 

the toast y0u like the best.

 

CSO , w fresh-et bread does it for me.

[md8232]

Another test

Top rack, 420, Convi for 6 minutes with

 Wonder bread. 
I checked at 4 minutes and flipped the bread. 
I think this would be acceptable. 
 

Edited May 22, 2020 by md8232 (log)

[jimb0]

23 hours ago, Kerry Beal said:

I do have a plan that would get it to me. But I need to be sure it makes toast equivalent to the CSO first! 

 

I did see that there's a panasonic microwave / convection / steam oven on Amazon.ca. Have you happened to use one of these? I did notice that 'broil' mode was only 1200W, which isn't as powerful as some toaster ovens, but it might not be as relevant as I'd think.

 

There's also a Sharp appliance, which tbh looks really cool, but it seems tiny.

[Kerry Beal]

20 minutes ago, jimb0 said:

 

I did see that there's a panasonic microwave / convection / steam oven on Amazon.ca. Have you happened to use one of these? I did notice that 'broil' mode was only 1200W, which isn't as powerful as some toaster ovens, but it might not be as relevant as I'd think.

 

There's also a Sharp appliance, which tbh looks really cool, but it seems tiny.

I've looked at each of the steam ovens that have come out - this has been the first one that interested me after the CSO.

[larryroohr]

On 5/20/2020 at 12:34 AM, mgaretz said:

 

Yes, with a Dutch Oven (but I will admit it's hard to find a reasonably priced one that fits - height with the lid is the issue - but this one does) :

 

 

Mark, How much flour do you start with for these loaves? I usually use 450gr and I'm wondering if that is too much for the height of this pot. You've got some beautiful loaves there with nice crumb, and I dont see little holes on top from those pointy things in the lid 8^).

Summer is here and I'd really like to use my Breville instead of the big oven.

[mgaretz]

54 minutes ago, larryroohr said:

Mark, How much flour do you start with for these loaves? I usually use 450gr and I'm wondering if that is too much for the height of this pot.

 

I use 3 cups of flour, or about 360 grams.

[Kerry Beal]

Just to be a complete pain (ie clutching at straws) - could you try toast at 450º F combi?

[rotuts]

@Kerry Beal

 

nothing wrong w being hopeful 

 

but the CSO was made for toast

 

not the FBCO

 

@md8232 nailed it by mentioning the FBCO might be too big.

 

is it a time for an extension to be built into the kitchen 

 

lengthening the counters 

 

so there might be room for both the CSO  and the FBCO ?

 

as the borders are closed , you might use that to your advantage.

 

just a thought.

[md8232]

3 hours ago, Kerry Beal said:

Just to be a complete pain (ie clutching at straws) - could you try toast at 450º F combi?

 

OK.

450 Combi with a 5 minute preheat.  Steamy when I opened the door.
Toast is on the top rack @ 1.75” from the heat element. 

I’ll start with 3 minutes and see where we are.

 

Edited May 24, 2020 by md8232 (log)

[md8232]

2nd attempt. 
same time & temp.  5 minutes preheat. 
I flipped the toast at 90 seconds. 
3 minutes total. I think we have a winner. 
Third pic to show it is soft inside. 
 

Edited May 24, 2020 by md8232 (log)