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I wonder, using my Control Freak, if I could use it and my Camerson stove stop smoker  to smoke bacon?  The range of the CF is 77F to 482F.

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50 minutes ago, ElsieD said:

I wonder, using my Control Freak, if I could use it and my Camerson stove stop smoker  to smoke bacon?  The range of the CF is 77F to 482F.

The smoker has to get to the smoke point of wood...about 450F or so.

 

So if you could isolate  the bacon from the heat, but not the smoke...not so hard to do.

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How does setting a temperature to 220F get to 450F?

13 hours ago, gfweb said:

The smoker has to get to the smoke point of wood...about 450F or so.

 

So if you could isolate  the bacon from the heat, but not the smoke...not so hard to do.

Pardon my stupidity, but how do you do this?  If bacon is to be smoked using a temperature of 220F to get the bacon to 150F, when does the wood get to 450F?

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@ElsieD

 

one you have smoke , you then cool the smoke down

 

passing through something that is cooler than the smoke.

 

this of a metal dryer vent, or the like

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On 12/20/2024 at 3:18 PM, rotuts said:

Oooooo !

 

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Ooooooooooooo !

 

contraqctor charged w his Lowes card , passes on savings to cusstomers

 

$ 474 or so , tax additional 

 

might be a few weeks to get this on the counter , in this general area :

 

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Oooh, @rotuts! You got the smoker!!! So excited for you. We still love ours and use it a lot. 👍🎉👍🎉👍

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"Here let us feast, and to the feast be join'd discourse, the sweeter banquet of the mind." Pope's Homer

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Ill be unpacking it ' soon '

 

and will post here.  my main effort will be on turkey breast

 

as I have 6  ( on deep sale , of course ) in the freezer waiting for the call-up.

 

Ill de-bone , and remove the two tendons on each Br , tie back together.

 

leave the skin on for ' protection , and smoke low for future sandwiches.

 

then after those get done , maybe some duck.

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i havent looked over the manual , but Ive found turkey

 

via SV  is very tasty at 140 F or so.  so that might be a ball park figure.

 

looking up the temps it seems 150 F is the lowest the oven goes.

 

so  ... 150 F.

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11 minutes ago, rotuts said:

i havent looked over the manual , but Ive found turkey

 

via SV  is very tasty at 140 F or so.  so that might be a ball park figure.

 

looking up the temps it seems 150 F is the lowest the oven goes.

 

so  ... 150 F.

 

I like 140 too. I cold smoke then SV the breast at 140F.  Cooked but not overcooked.

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1 hour ago, rotuts said:

it seems 150 F is the lowest the oven goes.

 

143F is the low end of kippering, so this appliance is not doing cold smoking.

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On 2/2/2025 at 9:47 AM, Laurentius said:

 

143F is the low end of kippering, so this appliance is not doing cold smoking.

Agreed. It's definitely not a cold smoker. That has been my one (and only) personal disappointment with it. For us, it's just a small disappointment since we also have an outdoor smoker that's great for cold smoking. Just a matter of shoveling snow off the deck to get to it in the Minnesota winter sometimes. 😂 Although this winter, like last winter, I'm missing the snow and would be glad to have some to shovel.

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Finally , some unpacking done:

 

having a back issue , I realized I should drag the box into the kitchen , turn it on its side , slide out the unit ...

 

then pray a lot :  got it on the counter :

 

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there might be a problem w the side racks , as the top shelf it tight.  Called GE :  they are sending out another set.

 

it too quite some time , as GE's computer wants to to go on line , etc.   got through their may repetitive promps

 

w no Beverage assistants.  One you get someone , they are very helpful .

 

first up will be a thawed Fz whole turkey breast , worked over to fit :

 

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these are the same as the ShadyBrookFarm versions.  7.5 - 8.0 lbs , @ $ 0.99//lb.

 

I have 6 .

 

The back will be cut off , and probably the whole breast will be split in two to fit.

 

I might be able to get the two split breast on one rack , we sill see.  the back might go in the bottom 

 

rack , and cooked along w the BR , and then iPot'd , along w the smoked carcass for Smokes Turkey stock.

 

looking forward to using the oven.  Ill go the lowest temp :  150 F I think , until the Br registers  140 F or so.

 

remember , I paid ~ 425 ( via my contractor , at Lowes , not $ 1,000 K )

 

if your stock ' Puts' have done well ' recently '  do to .....   , go for the 1 K.

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My first IndoorSmoke  ( of food )

 

Two TrBr's , and their backs :

 

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this is one TB w thyme , granulated garlic and granulated onion.  salts , as I want to use the bones in a 4 x iPot'ing for stock

 

i.e. , reuse the stock 4 times , thus no salt.  I dont mind adding salt at the time I eat.  2 Tb's as above

 

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the two backs , no seasonings .  for the same reason.  the seasoning was very light , and only on the skin.

 

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ready to go

 

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the controls seem to be straight forward , but are not as functionally clear as they might be.  more about that later.

 

I decided on a standard ' low and slow ' pellet temp of 2125 F .  I inserted the probe , and went for 140 f internal temp.

 

here is where things got  a bit difficult , hopefully my fault :   there is a time method and a temp method.

 

I thought id selected temp method, but after preheating , the temp indicator stopped toggling and set itself at 32 F

 

hope fully not a defective unit.   So I checked @ 1 hour , cooking time , w the thermapen  .  top TB :  106 F.

 

I opened the door w/o using the ' clear smoke '  which takes 10 minutes the manual says.  the unit did not automatically go back to 

 

' smoking '  the dial turned red , and said it would shut down in 15 minutes .  the manual says this would happen if the door was left open

 

for 10 minutes .  opened an closed several times , went back to ' smoking '

 

@ 2 hr :  top TB was 130 F.  again , agita on getting it back to ' smoking '  but it did.   @ 2. 5 hrs , top TB was 141 F.

 

decreased the temp of the oven to 17O f , again unclear fiddling to get it back to ' smoking '  

 

@ 3 hrs , turned it off .   for some reason , the ' clear smoke ' button did not work for me.   it must be more complicated

 

than just pushing that button.  I hope so .

 

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the end result.

 

the top TB came off @ 155 F , after resting  went to 161 f.  temped the middle TB   142 f at the same time.

 

clearly , the temperature in the oven is not very even.  Im guessing no fan to slowly move the air around.

 

this can be dealt with by moving the two TB's 1/2 way through the desired cooking time.

 

Im pleased I have the unit @ ~ 430 USD  from Lowes w the contractor buying it.

 

I would be happier if cooking via the temp probe set up was more transparent .

 

Id like the unit to go back to ' smoking ' just by shutting the door , but Im assuming I have to do a few licking , twirling ect

 

that are not clear to me .    and I don't know why the ' clear smoke ' button did not work.

 

Im hopeful @Elle Bee  might be following this thread and chime in.

 

GE is a very very very large company.  it took me almost 30 minutes to get to speak w someone, who then connected me to someone else

 

to solve the problem of a ' tight rack '  the top one.

 

they have a tiered system , they really want to force you to go on line to save customer service costs.

 

I do have an email for a specific person , so will email to see if I can get the temp probe cooking to work 

 

( it toggled for a bit , then stopped w a reading of 32 F

 

as I read the manual , opening and closing the door w/o clearing the smoke should be straight forward.

 

Im not there quite yet.   and Id like to know how to get the ' clear smoke ' button to work.

 

any way , If I can get the unit to work by just keeping track of the various time in my

 

*****  Brand New RED notebook *******  

 

Ill be happy.     you have to be aware that the oven have very different temps :   Top to bottom , and back to front.

 

@ $ 1,000 USD ,  over priced , unless you have a trust fund , and that Fund has not gone down more than 10 %

 

Amazon has it now for $ 619 w $ 76 delivery ( Im not on Prime , so I cant say if Prime covers free delivery )

 

that's a price , again , Trust-Fund-ish .

 

if you have no experience w pellet smoking , Id be cautious .

 

the issue here is the same one that came w the CSO :   wouldn't it be nice , w the same foot print 

 

to be a bit larger inside ?   and the buttons or the instructions for the buttons to  \be clearer ?

 

however , so far so good for me.  Im looking forward to getting the kinks out.

 

P.S.:  the taste test :

 

Ive done a fair amount of pellet work , and the smoke from the 1 lbs pellets provided

 

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has a distinct cherry wood aroma and flavor.

 

Id say the level of smoke is  past ' light ' and thinking about ' medium '

 

the Tb has a very nice flavor .   Ill lower the cooking temp ( maybe ) next time, so it takes 

 

longer to get to a finished temp , and Ill rotate the TB's

 

and pull them off @ 140 F , and hope to go no higher than 150 F.

 

that's just a personal plan.  you may like your TB @ higher temps , because you have Gravy

 

and Mashed Potatoes @ hand.

 

Im very hoping I can get the few kinks out , for my method of cooking.

 

Im happy w the price I paid , and will get this working My Way soon enough.

 

after all , the Yoder (WHPS ) is 2 hours away .

 

and even if I had a Yoder here, going in and out , and carrying heavy food

 

i9s jnot in my current best interests.

 

but having  a very keen interest in pellet smoking

 

Im pleased I have this unit.  Out of the Box .  and On the Counter.

 

cheers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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P.P.S :

 

Ive noticed that the button for  ' off ' responds to a tap

 

not a push .  Ill keep that in mind.

 

Ill do two more TBs tomorrow ,  rotate them 

 

and pull at a projected temp of @ 140 F

 

the three aluminum racks need to be placed in something w hot soapy ( bicab ? ) water to soak

 

Ill look into s disposable , but reusable , aluminum pan for that.

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The Amazon BOT ,  

 

Hoovering the information on eG instantaneously 

 

upped the price to :

 

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but that seems to include delivery :

 

that BOT really wants your wallet .

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@rotuts THANK YOU for the detailed review

 

and congrats on the new Red Notebook.  Is it college ruled or graph paper.?  GP is best if you can find it.

 

For me the price competition is vs a tube pellet smoker + sous vide, but the new gadget factor for this is very high....

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I received the two replacement side racks today.

 

That was pretty quite , and the problem w the top rack is solved.

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I decided to try yesterday's efforts , as a simple sandwich.

 

I used a TJ's Fz Naan , because that's what I had.

 

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this is some of the best , if not very best smoked turkey Ive ever had.  its very moist , excepting the tip and end.

 

it has a light , but penetrating smoke flavor , on the sweeter side  ( Cherry ? )

 

sliced deli thin , nothing like it at all moist and flavorful.

 

as the slices get thicker , the TB has a nice chew , but its not fall apart like you find in s soup.

 

If I use this in s salad or soup ( I will ) ill still slice thin , and then maybe into ribbons for something like that.

 

would be much tastier than one of those turkey logs.

 

Im very pleased.    I very much enjoy turkey .  this style is quite complementary to SV , my other TB method .

 

both methods are very easy to use , and each result has different uses , but each shines.

 

Over all , for me , the GE-IDS  is a fine addition on my counter and will deliver fantastic results

 

w plain TB's

 

Im going to do the other two TB tomorrow , see If I can fiddle w the probe ,

 

but basically same temps , and Ill pull by time,   Ill rotate the TB's

 

1/2 way through , by placing them w tongs on rimmed backing sheet on to pf the over.

 

then reinserting.

 

results to follow.

 

P.S. :  the sandwich

 

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always have to have a 1/2 sour w rich sandwiches such as these

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@ElsieD

 

Avery good question.

 

the kitchen developed a light cherry wood aroma, more like the aroma from a very ild candle.

 

no smoke.  there is a button , maybe you tap it , rather than puh , that clears the smoke out of the chamber

 

before you open the door if you like.   I just opened the door maybe three times,  there was of course smoke in the chamber

 

but it was not heavy.  Id say if the unit is used as designed , the aroma would be no more than a very lightly scented candel.

 

I liked the effect.  with hickory , which I happen to have in a pure form , 40 lbs , maybe a bit more aroma.

 

but its not smoky in any way,

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