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A Chinese Treatment for Okra

liuzhou

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7 hours ago, Katie Meadow said:

I guess at my next banquet I should request to sit at the head or one corner at each end so I don't poke out the right eye of my neighbor to the left.

 

Chinese banquet tables are always circular. No corners. Or head.

 

7 hours ago, Katie Meadow said:

Actually I'm pretty sure I could learn to use chopsticks with my right hand if I need to without too much trauma.


I can use either my right or left hands; sometimes both simultaneously.

 

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On 3/17/2021 at 5:07 PM, Katie Meadow said:

 I admit that I have never had it stewed, which doesn't sound so appealing .

 

Okra stewed in spicy tomato sauce and in soup is very common around here, possibly the most common methods of making it. It becomes silky and creamy but still has a tender byte, which is quite enjoyable - it also absorbed flavors well. Much better than stewed green beans, which I think is criminal to cook past the squeaky stage. That said, I prefer both vegetables stir fired or sauteed, with some crispness.

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7 hours ago, shain said:

 

Okra stewed in spicy tomato sauce and in soup is very common around here, possibly the most common methods of making it. It becomes silky and creamy but still has a tender byte, which is quite enjoyable - it also absorbed flavors well. Much better than stewed green beans, which I think is criminal to cook past the squeaky stage. That said, I prefer both vegetables stir fired or sauteed, with some crispness.

 

Okra is also used in many Indian style 'curries' where it is stewed. The juices which some people find 'slimy' are a tasty and natural thickener, too.
 

But I agree that crispness is good, which is why I liked the Chinese preparation. The two minute boil left it cooked, but crisp.

 

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1 hour ago, liuzhou said:

 

Okra is also used in many Indian style 'curries' where it is stewed. The juices which some people find 'slimy' are a tasty and natural thickener, too.
 

But I agree that crispness is good, which is why I liked the Chinese preparation. The two minute boil left it cooked, but crisp.

 

 

Right, I never had an Indian curry with okra other than that I made myself. I did leave quite firm but not very crisp.

 

As for Chinese prep, I can also see it working well in hot pots, and also as a cold appetizer, maybe with fish-fragrant sauce, or a sesame based one. And also simply stir fried e.g. with garlic and soy sauce.

 

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On 3/21/2021 at 4:31 PM, shain said:

 

Right, I never had an Indian curry with okra other than that I made myself. I did leave quite firm but not very crisp.

 

As for Chinese prep, I can also see it working well in hot pots, and also as a cold appetizer, maybe with fish-fragrant sauce, or a sesame based one. And also simply stir fried e.g. with garlic and soy sauce.

 

 

Okra (Hindi: भिंडी  - bhindi) is very common in curries. Bhindi Bhaji is on almost every menu in UK 'Indian' restaurants. Bhindi masala is also popular. Yes, okra is better still somewhat firm. 

 

I can't see okra working in hot pots, but the other methods you mention, yes.

I was just interested in posting my friend's method as it is the first I've seen it being cooked here - and it looked so good!

 

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Hard to get past how good it is sliced, dusted in cornmeal and fried, though. And it makes a marvelous salad when cooked like that and cooled, then combined with sliced dead-ripe tomatoes, cooked, drained crowder peas and barely cooked whole kernel corn and a bit of garlic aioli...

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7 hours ago, kayb said:

Hard to get past how good it is sliced, dusted in cornmeal and fried, though. And it makes a marvelous salad when cooked like that and cooled, then combined with sliced dead-ripe tomatoes, cooked, drained crowder peas and barely cooked whole kernel corn and a bit of garlic aioli...

 

C@rnmeal and c@rn?!?! What are you trying to do to me?

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C@rnmeal and c@rn?!?! What are you trying to do to me?

It is really good as are CORN tortillas. Known as the bean guy our @rancho_gordo also works with heirloom corn preservation.  Okra with coconut milk and shark is my favorite Carib prep - not stewed into oblivion. 

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20 minutes ago, heidih said:

It is really good as are CORN tortillas

 

You mean YOU like it. Fine. I don't. 

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C@rnmeal and c@rn?!?! What are you trying to do to me?

So the corn aversion extends to cornmeal? How sad.

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On 3/21/2021 at 2:32 AM, liuzhou said:

 

Okra is also used in many Indian style 'curries' where it is stewed. The juices which some people find 'slimy' are a tasty and natural thickener, too.
 

But I agree that crispness is good, which is why I liked the Chinese preparation. The two minute boil left it cooked, but crisp.

 

 

Suvir made a wonderful okra dish at the late, lamented Devi. I recall thin strips. And indeed...

 

https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/crispy-okra-salad

 

Okra's been around here in Chinatown for many years. Even my corner guy usually has it. As a matter of fact, this afternoon...

 

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I'll leave it to your judgement how "fresh" it is.  And at the farmer's market, when in season, they have a beautiful purple okra. Tiny pods.

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18 minutes ago, weinoo said:

 

Suvir made a wonderful okra dish at the late, lamented Devi. I recall thin strips. And indeed...

 

https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/crispy-okra-salad

 

Okra's been around here in Chinatown for many years. Even my corner guy usually has it. As a matter of fact, this afternoon...

 

IMG_3803.thumb.JPG.2e8f9fcda9bb2498ef40f8ea6a99c34e.JPG

 

I'll leave it to your judgement how "fresh" it is.  And at the farmer's market, when in season, they have a beautiful purple okra. Tiny pods.

Looks pretty fresh to me.  

 

I'm looking forward to trying @liuzhou's friends recipe when (IF) my okra grows this summer.  Last summer I only had enough for one measly meal for some reason.  I blame Covid.

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On 3/18/2021 at 3:05 PM, heidih said:

 

With broken bone trauma on right I managed left chopsticks. Aren't the tables usually round?

I'm slow on the uptake, so it's taken me a few days to realize....weren't we talking about pizza? Banquet or no, eating pizza with chopsticks doesn't seem like the best approach. Scissors and a sidecar notwithstanding.

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On 3/23/2021 at 6:55 AM, weinoo said:

they have a beautiful purple okra.

 

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Multi-coloured okra.

Trouble is that it all turns green when you cook it.

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1 minute ago, Katie Meadow said:

It looks perfect from here.

 

Yes, but it's not cooked yet.

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Thanks for this.   I'll try it!     It sounds "right" to me as I grill whole okra very briefly to minimize the "slime" factor.    OO, salt and pepper -> delicious.   

And scissors are very underused in the kitchen.    We definitely prefer scissors for foccacia and pizza.   

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I found a picture of the stewed okra from last summer.  Tomatoes and herbs are from my garden. 

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