The Bread Topic (2016–)

[Ann_T]

17 minutes ago, PatrickT said:

Nice crumb and crust @PatrickT.  $3.99. What a find.

If you like this bread, just make a larger boule to bake in the Romertopf.  

 

If you are interested, here is a video on scoring.  There are a number of videos, but I've always thought that this one explained scoring well.

 

 

[PatrickT]

Thank you @Ann_T - great suggestion. And thanks for your kind words and for sharing the video. Great resource!

[Ann_T]

@PatrickT that recipe also makes wonderful crusty buns.   

 

 

[PatrickT]

47 minutes ago, Ann_T said:

That recipe also makes wonderful crusty buns.

 

OH MY. 😍 What's the approximate gram weight of the dough for each of those?

[Ann_T]

4 hours ago, PatrickT said:

 

OH MY. 😍 What's the approximate gram weight of the dough for each of those?

@PatrickT, I never measure.  I just eyeball and divide even for the baguettes, depending on how many I want.

If I had to guess and I would say my guess would be pretty accurate because it would have been a 1000g flour batch at 72 to 75 % hydration, and there are 12 buns, that they are

around 145 to 150 each.  They are bigger than say a kaiser or burger bun.  So if you would prefer smaller buns, just divide the dough into  16 pieces. 

What is nice about this dough is you could make a baguette or a boule and still make some buns as well. 

[PatrickT]

Very helpful, as always @Ann_T - thank you!

[ElsieD]

Does anyone have a recipe for light rye bread?  Or point me to one on-line that you have used?  I have sourdough starter if needed.  Thanks!

[lindag]

Have you searched the KAF site?  I think they have some recipes for that.

[Dave R]

Yesterday's rye bake. Just sliced this AM.

 

@ElsieD Mine is not really a light rye, but I'll post anyway in case you're interested.

 

Starters are the term I use for a poolish pre-ferment.  They can be made early in the morning and be ready for use about 9 or 10 hours later, depending on room temperature. I often mix it during the day, refrigerate it overnight and take it out first thing in the morning. It's usually ready to use after lunch

Note: I am baking at 7,800 ft. above sea level. Time an temp may need adjustment for your area. 

 

Use mixer on low speed for 3 min. Add salt and caraway seeds for the last minute of mixing. Ferment covered on board, turning (stretch and fold) once every 30 minutes for 60 minutes.  Ferment in bulk in ‘fridge, turning twice at 2 or 3 hour intervals.  Leave 12 to 14 hours.  
 
Take out of fridge, cover and allow to come to room temp for one to two hours, depending on room temp.  
 
Form into two loaves for pan and let rise 30 to 45 minutes depending on room temp.  Have oven at 450° F .  
 
Spray loaves with water. Score loaves and place in oven. Bake for 20 minutes then lower oven temperature to 425° F, At 50 minutes remove the loaves from the pans and bake on the oven rack for another 10 minutes. At that point remove from the oven. Internal temperature should be about 194˚ F. 

 

Dave
 

[Ann_T]

43 minutes ago, ElsieD said:

Does anyone have a recipe for light rye bread?  Or point me to one on-line that you have used?  I have sourdough starter if needed.  Thanks!

@ElsieD, I would call this recipe a Lighter Rye.  

https://thibeaultstable.com/2020/02/14/light-rye-bread/

[Dave R]

1 minute ago, Ann_T said:

@ElsieD, I would call this recipe a Lighter Rye.  

https://thibeaultstable.com/2020/02/14/light-rye-bread/

 

that's a really nice looking loaf!

 

Dave

[ElsieD]

26 minutes ago, Ann_T said:

@ElsieD, I would call this recipe a Lighter Rye.  

https://thibeaultstable.com/2020/02/14/light-rye-bread/

 

If I can't find Stone ground rye flour can I just use dark rye flour?  (Maybe that's a dumb question?)

[Ann_T]

@ElsieD, yes, just use whatever rye flour you have access to.

 

[PatrickT]

2 hours ago, lindag said:

Have you searched the KAF site?

 

I'm not familiar with KAF. Could you post the name or link? I'd love to check it out. Thanks!

[PatrickT]

2 hours ago, Dave R said:

that's a really nice looking loaf!

 

Agreed! 😃

[Dave R]

Probably referring to King Arthur Flour.

 

Dave

[Ann_T]

Hadn't baked a rye loaf recently but between @Dave R and @ElsieD's posts as a reminder,  I decided yesterday morning to make the

dough.  I reduced the yeast from 5 to 3gs so that I could leave it out on the counter for a slower room temperature fermentation while I was at work.

 

I thought I had poppy seeds in the freezer, but apparently not. Went with just an egg wash. 

Baked last night and

sliced this morning.

 

It is Moe's birthday today and I had planned to make Osso Bucco but he decided that he would prefer a bottle of champagne and smoked salmon on rye.

So that is what we will be having. 

[Dave R]

@Ann_T A perfect birthday gift! A beautifully done loaf.

 

Dave

[Kim Shook]

Made some American Sandwich Bread from Cooks Illustrated yesterday. 

 

 

I tend to alternate between this and Shelby's White Bread Loaves for a regular loaf of white sandwich bread.   The CI recipe makes one 9x5-inch loaf and @Shelby's recipe makes two 8.5x4.5-inch loaves.  Shelby's loaves are more foolproof, I think, but the CI loaf is slightly tastier.  Both are extremely good.  

 

One odd thing with the CI loaf is the lines across the top and down the sides.  They always occur with this recipe.  It is a very soft dough - I always end up finishing by hand rather than in the KA so I don't have to add too much flour.  I use a bit more flour than they recommend as it is.  The recipe calls for AP flour, but I used King Arthur bread flour this time and it was fine.  

[Ann_T]

Has anyone here bought or considered buying the Challenger Bread  Baker?

https://challengerbreadware.com/product/challenger-bread-pan/

 

I really want this, but not sure that I really NEED it.  

[Anna N]

9 minutes ago, Ann_T said:

Has anyone here bought or considered buying the Challenger Bread  Baker?

https://challengerbreadware.com/product/challenger-bread-pan/

 

I really want this, but not sure that I really NEED it.  

Wow! Don’t drop it on your toes! This thing weighs 22 pounds/10 kg. 

[dtremit]

11 minutes ago, Ann_T said:

Has anyone here bought or considered buying the Challenger Bread  Baker?

https://challengerbreadware.com/product/challenger-bread-pan/

 

I really want this, but not sure that I really NEED it.  

 

Wirecutter reviewed it very positively though they balked at the price.

 

The $99 Camp Chef looks like an intriguing alternative — it doesn't have the nice helper handles, but for a 60% discount it might be fine. Plus I suspect I could find a non-bread use for a 12 quart cast iron pan (and large oval skillet) at some point. (Edited to add — though you might need to factor in the cost of a pair of welding gloves to get the lid off.)

Edited May 28, 2022 by dtremit (log)

[Dave R]

@Ann_THow are you baking most of your bread now? I had thought you were using a CSO and I gather the Challenger is more for a conventional oven using a cover for part of the bake.

 

Edit: I remember someone at The Fresh Loaf using this glass baker as an alternative.

 

Dave

 

Edited May 28, 2022 by Dave R (log)

[JoNorvelleWalker]

1 hour ago, Ann_T said:

Has anyone here bought or considered buying the Challenger Bread  Baker?

https://challengerbreadware.com/product/challenger-bread-pan/

 

I really want this, but not sure that I really NEED it.  

 

About half the weight and half the price of an anova.

 

[PatrickT]

2 hours ago, dtremit said:

Wirecutter reviewed it very positively though they balked at the price.

 

Saw that review and also saw it recommended by Maurizio at The Perfect Loaf. Looks interesting!