Smoking Meat

[Kim Shook]

Eight and a half hours into the cook.  In the stall right now.  Looking good:

Six hours/30 degrees to go.  Then we pull.

[rotuts]

@Kim Shook

 

Whoa ChuckWagon !

 

 

just reviewing right now :

 

 

Vastly impressed 

 

Kodos to KS or possibly

 

Mr. Kin :

 

my points :

 

 

that's the ' blade roast ' in the 7-bone hunk

 

tender and w full flavor 

 

 

in Competition BBQ

 

the Pork shoulder is  where the Money is

 

those 3 , actually 4  segmented Meat Tasty Bits

 

on the lower pic

 

are the Money Meat :

 

that's the tranche the competitors take to the judge 

 

for tateing

 

eExcellent Work

 

Mr. Kim !

 

just to review :

 

 

 

 

[Kim Shook]

20 hours ago, gfweb said:

Hot smoking?  What smoker do you use?

Sorry, @gfweb, I missed this.  Yes, hot smoking.  He has a WSM 22 - Weber Bullet.

[jedovaty]

Interesting timing on this resuscitated thread, I've just started learning about charcoal grilling and smoking, first grill to start this weekend, and then I'll try smoking the following weekend.  One thing really bugging me about not-cold-smoking: am I going to actually like it?  Not sure.  I've learned I do not like texture of red meat beyond medium rare, and pork past medium.  I've had some braised meats, and while tasty, the texture has always been off-putting.  Is that what I will experience if I smoke 250-300F ?

Edited September 10, 2019 by jedovaty (log)

[gfweb]

9 hours ago, jedovaty said:

Interesting timing on this resuscitated thread, I've just started learning about charcoal grilling and smoking, first grill to start this weekend, and then I'll try smoking the following weekend.  One thing really bugging me about not-cold-smoking: am I going to actually like it?  Not sure.  I've learned I do not like texture of red meat beyond medium rare, and pork past medium.  I've had some braised meats, and while tasty, the texture has always been off-putting.  Is that what I will experience if I smoke 250-300F ?

 

 

Its all in the choice of meat. Long hot smokes are suitable for tough cuts that need time to loosen-up. The same sorts of meat you'd braise.

 

To me a braised or smoked tough cut needs a sauce which hides the texture a bit.  But I agree, I don't like long-smoked meat as much as many do...largely because of the texture. 

 

FWIW, I get around the texture issue with pulled pork by cooking it sous vide. This is the juiciest most tender and not-overcooked pulled pork you can get.

 

I don't do much hot smoking.  I cold smoke then cook sous vide if I want smoked meat.

 

 

[rotuts]

its all about the temperature of the meat

 

lower temp'd meat , retains far more jus and flavor , and w SV can be as tender as you like.

 

 

[jedovaty]

Yeah, it's sous vide that opened up a whole world of not only improved textures, but also foods cooked to lower temps (and not necessarily via sous vide).  When reading about beef and pork smoking, I mostly see 250-300F temps, while cold smoking usually for fish and charcuterie.  I'll give it a go, setting up a long smoke @250 or so with a kettle seems to be "easy" with the snake method.  I'll look into cold smoking after this first step.  Wish me luck that I don't burn down the neighborhood 😲

[Kim Shook]

Company is gone!  I finally have time to post the rest of Mr. Kim’s latest cook.  Off the smoker:

 

Before pulling – nice smoke ring:

 

 

Pile ‘o pork:

It is extremely tasty!

[kayb]

You are in error. That is a pile of HEAVEN.

 

Seriously, looks like fine pork. My compliments to Mr. Kim.

 

[scubadoo97]

Smoked a prepared corned beef coated in pastrami spices 

 

 

 

[scubadoo97]

On 9/9/2019 at 10:56 PM, jedovaty said:

Interesting timing on this resuscitated thread, I've just started learning about charcoal grilling and smoking, first grill to start this weekend, and then I'll try smoking the following weekend.  One thing really bugging me about not-cold-smoking: am I going to actually like it?  Not sure.  I've learned I do not like texture of red meat beyond medium rare, and pork past medium.  I've had some braised meats, and while tasty, the texture has always been off-putting.  Is that what I will experience if I smoke 250-300F ?

 

 

Not sure how to respond.  Tough cut will not be enjoyable med rare.

 

There is is something magical that happens when you take a tough cut of meat and turn it in to something that will melt in your mouth.  But it ain’t med rare, just saying

 

edited to add sous vide does allow you to get tender meat at low temps.  But you loose some of the qualities which I take it you don’t enjoy

Edited September 19, 2019 by scubadoo97 (log)

[jedovaty]

4 hours ago, scubadoo97 said:

 

Not sure how to respond.  Tough cut will not be enjoyable med rare.

 

There is is something magical that happens when you take a tough cut of meat and turn it in to something that will melt in your mouth.  But it ain’t med rare, just saying

 

edited to add sous vide does allow you to get tender meat at low temps.  But you loose some of the qualities which I take it you don’t enjoy

 

Only one way to find out

[rotuts]

ive done corned beef @ 140 F for 48 hrs.

 

chilled

 

then placed the cold pieces , saving the jus , on a cold Weber

 

that Ive then cold smoked for 1 hour with wood pellets in a wood pellet holder.

 

plenty smoky for me.

 

re-baged w a little bit of the cold jus ,k 2 - 3 T / bag , vacc'd and Fz.

 

makes an excellent smoked corn beef sandwich.

 

I dint know what to call 140 CB  that is very tender , in terms of done=ness

 

no bark , but so easy to do.

Edited September 20, 2019 by rotuts (log)