United States Issues New Nutrition Guidelines - Eat That Steak and Eggs (After You Cook Them in Butter)!!

[weinoo]

I've ceased scratching my head a long time ago, trying to preserve whatever remaining hair I have. So now I just chuckle...while I listen to the science and get my vaccines.

 

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In a striking reversal of past nutrition guidance, the Trump administration released new dietary guidelines on Wednesday that flip the food pyramid on its head, putting steak, cheese and whole milk near the top.

 

After years of being advised to avoid eating too much red meat and foods high in fats, Americans are now being told to embrace them. The document, which is far shorter than previous versions, codifies some of Mr. Kennedy’s frequent talking points, like recommending that people cook with butter and beef tallow despite the fact that scientific evidence does not support doing so. 

 

Kennedy Flips Food Pyramid

 

  

 

 

[KennethT]

Don't forget the beef fat!!!  You should be frying your eggs with tallow, and then drizzle melted butter on top.

[rotuts]

[weinoo]

27 minutes ago, KennethT said:

Don't forget the beef fat!!! 

 

With any luck, McDonald's will get back on this right away!

 

[BeeZee]

Food pyramid as sponsored by McD’s.

[Maison Rustique]

I'm buying stock in pharmaceuticals who make cholesterol and cardiac drugs. While I drink as much alcohol as possible.

[chromedome]

Here is a link to the new guidelines' "Scientific Foundation" document, for anyone who might feel inclined to geek out on it. 

https://cdn.realfood.gov/Scientific Report.pdf

Some of you will be familiar with Tamar Haspel's work; she's the WaPo's columnist on food and food policy. She's done a lengthy analysis on Bluesky, for those who are active there (she may have posted this on other platforms as well, if you follow her elsewhere). Here's a link to the thread:

 

https://bsky.app/profile/tamarhaspel.bsky.social/post/3mbvzrhtgm22n

 

...and for the TL;DR version, here's a screencap of her summary/takeaway: 

 

Posted this originally in the "Food Science" thread, then remembered that Mitch had started this one. Duh.

[Alex]

22 minutes ago, chromedome said:

Here is a link to the new guidelines' "Scientific Foundation" document, for anyone who might feel inclined to geek out on it. 

https://cdn.realfood.gov/Scientific Report.pdf

Some of you will be familiar with Tamar Haspel's work; she's the WaPo's columnist on food and food policy. She's done a lengthy analysis on Bluesky, for those who are active there (she may have posted this on other platforms as well, if you follow her elsewhere). Here's a link to the thread:

 

https://bsky.app/profile/tamarhaspel.bsky.social/post/3mbvzrhtgm22n

 

...and for the TL;DR version, here's a screencap of her summary/takeaway: 

 

Posted this originally in the "Food Science" thread, then remembered that Mitch had started this one. Duh.

 

I know we're not supposed to discuss politics here, so I won't, sort of, but the first three pages of the full report are a perfect illustration of how politics (and economics) and food are inseparable.

[chromedome]

2 minutes ago, Alex said:

 

I know we're not supposed to discuss politics here, so I won't, sort of, but the first three pages of the full report are a perfect illustration of how politics (and economics) and food are inseparable.

That's actually a keynote of Haspel's body of work, overall, and covering it is pretty much her whole job at WaPo. She rubs a lot of organic-food enthusiasts the wrong way, for example, by pointing out that the yield loss for full-organic means needing more land to feed the same number of people, which in turn pushes environmental degradation. 

She has no academic credentials in food or nutrition, but she's been following the field for a long time, and interviewing both authorities in the field and the academics writing the papers she covers, so she's got a pretty deep knowledge of the subject matter (and a suitably jaundiced attitude about poorly-constructed studies). 

[Alex]

24 minutes ago, Alex said:

 

I know we're not supposed to discuss politics here, so I won't, sort of, but the first three pages of the full report are a perfect illustration of how politics (and economics) and food are inseparable.

 

And here's another example, related to the above, from this morning's Washington Post.

 

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But the ongoing debate over the health harms of alcohol took a turn Wednesday after the United States dropped its long-standing guidance to consume no more than one or two drinks per day. It marks a pull back in messaging for the federal government — under President Joe Biden, the U.S. surgeon general recommended adding cancer warnings to alcohol products, and reassessing limits on alcohol consumption.

 

During a news conference rolling out new U.S. dietary guidelines on Wednesday, Mehmet Oz, the administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, said people should drink judiciously. Then he added it is a “social lubricant that brings people together” and “there’s probably nothing healthier than having a good time with friends in a safe way.”

 

[Darienne]

...and for the TL;DR version, here's a screencap of her summary/takeaway: 

 

Could not access this page.  

[Shelby]

16 hours ago, weinoo said:

I've ceased scratching my head a long time ago, trying to preserve whatever remaining hair I have. So now I just chuckle...while I listen to the science and get my vaccines.

 

 

Kennedy Flips Food Pyramid

 

  

 

 

Ronnie's doctor told him to eat like this a couple years ago--hence the no/low carb diet I try to adhere to but it's SO hard.  He did lose some weight in the beginning and his bloodwork improved hugely.  I raised the issue of cholesterol to his doctor and he told me he'd rather Ronnie's bloodwork look this good and that there are drugs to take care of high cholesterol if needed.  I disagree but I kept my mouth shut.  I'm of the mind that all things in moderation are good.  But what the hell do I know?

[Shelby]

Also, where is the candy section of the pyramid?  

 

 

[chromedome]

58 minutes ago, Darienne said:

...and for the TL;DR version, here's a screencap of her summary/takeaway: 

 

Could not access this page.  

The link for the full thread is higher up in my original post. You may not be able to view it if you don't have a Bluesky account. 

The "TL:DR" is screencapped, so if you're not seeing it, it's not about accessing the page but about whether you're seeing images correctly on eG with your device. IIRC you'd spoken about that just recently? 

[Darienne]

21 minutes ago, chromedome said:

The link for the full thread is higher up in my original post. You may not be able to view it if you don't have a Bluesky account. 

The "TL:DR" is screencapped, so if you're not seeing it, it's not about accessing the page but about whether you're seeing images correctly on eG with your device. IIRC you'd spoken about that just recently? 

I don't have Bluesky.  I don't even know what it is.  And if you want to be friends...don't tell me.  

[Darienne]

1 hour ago, Shelby said:

Also, where is the candy section of the pyramid?  

 

 

And what about chocolate????

[rotuts]

Over Here :

 

https://forums.egullet.org/topic/164538-cooking-with-a-pellet-grill/page/6/

 

check the price.

 

 

my friend is way ahead of the Meat Pyramid.

 

this year he only got one standing (choice ) rib roast.

 

First Cut ,  9 - 12 .

Edited 8 hours ago by rotuts (log)

[weinoo]

3 hours ago, Shelby said:

 I'm of the mind that all things in moderation are good.

 

I 95% follow this guidance.  (And I also take a low-dose statin!).

[chromedome]

3 hours ago, Shelby said:

Ronnie's doctor told him to eat like this a couple years ago--hence the no/low carb diet I try to adhere to but it's SO hard.  He did lose some weight in the beginning and his bloodwork improved hugely.  I raised the issue of cholesterol to his doctor and he told me he'd rather Ronnie's bloodwork look this good and that there are drugs to take care of high cholesterol if needed.  I disagree but I kept my mouth shut.  I'm of the mind that all things in moderation are good.  But what the hell do I know?

My GF, who when younger had lost weight easily on the Atkins diet, more recently tried it again. She lost no weight, but her cholesterol hit alarming levels and she's now on a statin for the duration. 

OTOH, going back to 2017, I lost 30 pounds or so on an eating pattern that was pretty heavy on carbs, albeit mostly in the form of whole grains (because I'm not one for keeping track of details, I centered my eating around fiber, because fiber content overall is a pretty good proxy for "healthfulness": if you're getting the recommended amount of fiber from whole foods, rather than a supplement, you probably can't go far wrong). Have kept it off since, though over the past six months or so I've regained 5 of 'em because I started slacking a bit. It didn't help that the drought meant I lost a couple of hundred pounds' worth of veggies that I'd normally have had in my diet. 

(ETA: GF is now losing weight steadily again, despite her arthritis-enforced limits on physical activity, with a balanced eating plan. She's shrinking out of some clothes and back into others, and is delighted with her progress.)

Edited 6 hours ago by chromedome (log)

[rotuts]

 

 

after the trim .

 

 

maybe he made tallow ?

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[haresfur]

My understanding is that diet change typically can change blood cholesterol by maybe 10 % so not usually enough. As my brother said, "We chose the wrong parents" They do have a drug which will inhibit the uptake of dietary cholesterol. Didn't get me to my target but I told my doc that I was happy to spend the money on it if it meant I can eat cheese with less guilt