Zojirushi rice cookers

[KennethT]

45 minutes ago, rotuts said:

still trying to decided on ' umami rice '  :   

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskCulinary/comments/24yvim/how_do_rice_cookers_with_umami_settings_work/

 

unfortunately I can't get to reddit .  but 

 

I suspect the link is info from manufacturers sites , thus , a bit suspect .

 

it seems some Zo RC's have this setting , inc the pressure $$$ ones.

 

the setting takes longer , and include a water-soak stage  .  that' I can do manually 

 

Zo also makes a Micron Zo :

 

https://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-NL-GAC10-Cooker-5-5-Cup-Metallic/dp/B08ZHRMGJ2?th=1

 

as I understand it , Micron Zo's are manufactured in China , vs Zo's made in Japan.

 

so , unless I hear differently from the eG Ricer's

 

its mostly hype , but not 100 %  :  80 - 85 % seem about right ?

 

Ill manually soak my next batch of rice and see if I can tell any difference.

 

I don't have a Zo, but I do manually soak both my jasmine and basmati rices for 10 minutes prior to a thorough washing.

[rotuts]

@DesertTinker

 

many thanks for that ref.   

 

and as I though , just like  @KennethT ( thank you ! )

 

people who eat more rice than I , pre-soak .  

 

then decided on new 5 Cup , based on using the extra space in the cooker ( after cooking )

 

for mix-ins , when making   Not-Fried-Rice .

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by rotuts (log)

[rotuts]

I have one last question ,  for now at least :

 

Zo has two ( made in Japan ) styles :    the dome and handle ( a tan color )  and a flat top ( black )

 

the fat is newer , and generally cost a bit more over the Dome :

 

 

here  478 dome vs 577 flat .  for pressure RC's

 

but 

 

 

not in the case of the 5C induction :

 

dome  $ 360   flat $ 332 .

 

if you understand the price differences , as dollars ,  ie  more $$ might get you , at least a useful gain .

 

Id like to hear from you here.

[TdeV]

This is the display from the manual for NW-JEC10 or 18, so you see it has an Umami setting.

 

 

It comes from the bottom half of page 7 of the manual:

 

 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by TdeV
Edited to note Umami setting (log)

[TdeV]

7 hours ago, rotuts said:

Wait !  it also have a self standing rice scoop ! 

 

 

 

I had NO idea this scoop stood up on its own! Thanks, @rotuts

[KennethT]

For those with one of these rice cookers, does the cooker care if you unplug it for storage?  A while ago, I was reading a manual and it made it seem like you had to set the clock every time it had power disconnected - which is fine if you leave it on the countertop and plugged in, but I don't have that much counter space and would unplug and store in between uses.  And I really don't need a clock on my rice cooker - I would never put the rice/water in and have it turn itself on 7 hours later or whatever its intention was to have.

[TdeV]

8 minutes ago, KennethT said:

For those with one of these rice cookers, does the cooker care if you unplug it for storage?  A while ago, I was reading a manual and it made it seem like you had to set the clock every time it had power disconnected - which is fine if you leave it on the countertop and plugged in, but I don't have that much counter space and would unplug and store in between uses.  And I really don't need a clock on my rice cooker - I would never put the rice/water in and have it turn itself on 7 hours later or whatever its intention was to have.

 

I unplug it in between uses. I'm not sure what it thinks the date is, but the time is right. I'm not remembering exactly whether I changed the time during Daylight/Daylight Savings.

 

Kenneth, I can set what time I want the rice done. Although I have more than once set the rice for 6 (instead of 18:00) ! Porridge for 6 am does sound good though.

 

@rotuts, my plug does NOT detach.

 

@gfweb, for sound one can choose between Melody, Beep, and Mute. Begin Cooking or Set Time plays "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star". Completion of task plays "Amaryllis"

 

 

[weinoo]

33 minutes ago, TdeV said:

 

I had NO idea this scoop stood up on its own! Thanks, @rotuts

 

At that price, I think the scoop should cook the rice for us!

 

1 hour ago, KennethT said:

  A while ago, I was reading a manual and it made it seem like you had to set the clock every time it had power disconnected

 

I think you probably misread or the manual was unclear.  There is an internal Lithium battery that the clock runs on.  (Seepage 22 of the manual on this page).  Of course the problem happens when that battery runs out, as there is evidently no way to change the battery by one's self.

[TdeV]

2 minutes ago, weinoo said:

At that price, I think the scoop should cook the rice for us!

 

😂

 

3 minutes ago, weinoo said:

<snip> Of course the problem happens when that battery runs out, as there is evidently no way to change the battery by one's self.

 

My Zo bread machine no longer allows me to set the time, so it's permanently in either Daylight or Daylight Savings . . .

[weinoo]

I made a mistake by saying there is no way to replace the battery by one's self.  I meant to say that I wouldn't be able to replace it; someone with a little bit of technical ability and a soldering iron would be able to!

 

The unit still works with a dead battery, so I imagine that when the battery in my unit dies, it will stay that way.

[rotuts]

Interesting.  does the battery charge while the unit is plugged in ?

 

and also while making rice ?

 

thus it might last longer w proper charging cycles ?

[weinoo]

22 minutes ago, rotuts said:

Interesting.  does the battery charge while the unit is plugged in ?

 

and also while making rice ?

 

thus it might last longer w proper charging cycles ?

 

No, I don't believe it's a rechargeable battery.

[JoNorvelleWalker]

The battery takes years and years to run down though.  However it did eventually run down on my older Zojirushi.

 

[rotuts]

those eG'ers blessed w the pressure or micron version 

 

w the Umami selection :  how long does the umami cook last ?

 

the regular white rice cook last ?

 

ie  the difference ?  that would be the soaking time ?

 

thanks.

[weinoo]

19 hours ago, DesertTinker said:

@rotuts

Most of the Reddit thread you linked to is just folks speculating about how the umami cycle works, but there is this LINK to an article that seems like a pretty solid explanation.

 

Check the article above that @DesertTinker linked too, or any of the manuals for cookers with the umami setting for a more precise figure.  For example, the manual for my cooker suggests a cooking time between 67 -74 minutes on the umami setting.

[rotuts]

so Id say , max-ish , 15 minutes for the soak .

 

thanks

[weinoo]

 

Note the instructions for the Japanese varieties of rice I get from The Rice Factory...https://trf-ny.com/pages/how-to-cook-japanese-white-rice

 

They call for soaking all variations, some for 30  minutes, others for a couple of hours.  

[rotuts]

thanks to @weinoo 's nudge

 

I was finally able to find and D/L'd a pressure RC manual 

 

here are the various times :

 

 

 

[TdeV]

GABA brown rice takes a LOT longer that regular brown rice. Has an earthier flavour than regular brown rice.

[rotuts]

Ive got GABA on my Induction .

 

it just soaks the rice , in this case the GABA comes from brown , not white , rice

 

to get that GABA in an older machine , just soak the brown rice , 30 +++ minutes , then cook

 

on Brown.    the result is a fairly soft BR.