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Eating Western Food in China

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In addition to the usual KFC/McDs/Pizza Hut type fare and badly cooked, low quality steaks, we also get other options. To illustrate, I have selected a few offerings from (美团 - měi tuán), China's main delivery service. All these dishes are from local restaurants.

 

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Steak, fried egg and, of course, pasta. Is that c@rn I spy?

 

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Even better, serve the pasta unsauced

 

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I'm speechless

 

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Durian Cheese Waterfall Pizza (their description!)

 

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Fruit Pizza with Sweet Kewpie Mayo (of course)

 

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Hokkaido Chiken Pizza with Sweet Kewpie Mayo

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Mango and Shrimp Pizza with Sweet Kewpie Mayo

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Mango and Eel Pizza? They forgot the mayo!

 

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Ah! Here's the Sweet Kewpie Mayo on Mexican Tacos (no further decription offered).

 

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Eel Taco

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Spicy Beef Sandwich

 

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Low Fat Beef Sandwich (with more calories than the regular one?)

 

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Tuna Sandwich

 

I'll stick to my 螺蛳粉！

 

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Spicy Beef Sandwich

 

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Low Fat Beef Sandwich (with mor ecalaries than the regular one?)

 



 

are those ones delivered by a kind of supersonic deer, or just they have its meat? (or maybe it is a local brand with that name?)

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are those ones delivered by a kind of supersonic deer, or just they have its meat? (or maybe it is a local brand with that name?)

 

It's just a random brand name. No venison is involved.

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All steak restaurants in China use the same scale for measuring temperature / doneness, but sometimes different terminology. Here it is again, this time illustrated:

 

The pictures could be better - the medium rare and medium look the same to me  - so, I've also translated what it was intended to be.

 

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Chinese

Pinyin

Literal Translation

English

 

 

 

 

一分熟

yī fēn shú

One point cooked

Rare

三分熟

sān fēn shú

Three point cooked

Medium Rare

五分熟

wǔ fēn shú

Five Point Cooked

Medium

七分熟

qī fēn shú

Seven Point Cooked

Medium Well

全熟

quán shú

Fully Cooked

Well Done

 

I hope that is useful and you can at least order what you want. I can't guarantee what will turn up, though. (Don't mess with them and order an even number!)

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I wonder how many Chinese nationals order their steak on the rare side when they visit these restaurants.  Surely ones who have traveled extensively to western countries, but I had assume that culturally, rare meat was not something to be found often.

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I wonder how many Chinese nationals order their steak on the rare side when they visit these restaurants.

 

Very. very few. Medium well is considered brave!

 

Most of these places are aimed at visiting business people from overseas. Even most Chinese who have travelled in the West balk at bloody steaks. (Although they are happy to eat congealed pig, chicken and duck blood without blinking. Strange.)

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Another serious problem with western food in China is the almost ever-constant lack of seasoning. I have the idea that Chinese chefs and cooks are so used to seasoning with soy sauce etc that they never think to reach out for the salt.

 

I've lost count of how many times I've been served fries without a trace of salt; same with salads.

 

At one time, I used to carry a bunch of those little salt packets you get in western fast food places (they don't have here - I'd load up in airports etc) . Later I gave up doing that; I just gave up western food, After all, it was seldom worth seasoning!

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I've moaned and complained about Chinese bread before. There is very little. 99% is like this.

 

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Labelled in Chinese and English (no French) as "Soft French Bread", only one of which descriptors is accurate . It's soft. It is neither French nor bread. It's bad, over sweet sponge cake.

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Ingredients listed (in Chinese only) are wheat flour, margarine, sugar, egg, high fructose corn syrup, refined vegetable oil, whole milk powder, shortening, yeast, gluten, salt, food additives (sodium bicarbonate, sodium dehydroacetate, calcium stearyl lactate, sucrose fatty acid ester, sorbic acid ascorbic palmitate, novolac, citric acid), maltose syrup, edible alcohol, edible spices.

Shelf life 6 months.

 

Sacré blue!                 

 

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23 minutes ago, Tropicalsenior said:

Oh my God! That looks like an over aged Twinkie.

Just curious. Do you ever get invited for dinner and they have tried to cook Western food to make you feel at home?

 

No. Never. I have been invited to "Western" restaurants, though.

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14 hours ago, Tropicalsenior said:

It seems like the Chinese have better sense than most of the westerners.

 

There are plenty of bad Chinese cooks, but they tend not to entertain, prefering to leave the cooking to someone else.

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I feel I have to share this. I've was idly flicking through my home city's main restaurant delivery app and came across this monstrosity.

 

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Billed as a 'Typical American Burger', it is made using Australian beef*, as are all typical American burgers. Other ingredients are lettuce, tomato, bacon, American 'cheese'**, egg, homemade*** pickles, homemade*** bread and homemade*** sauce.

Ingredients: bacon, beef, lettuce, tomato sauce, sugar, bread, lettuce****.

¥34.83 / $5 USD. Expensive for China.

 

* Probably actually local water buffalo.

** Made in China.

*** Whose home?
**** Yes. Lettuce twice.

 

The bun is described as that typical 'red velvet bread' as served with every burger in the west.

 

 

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What do you think that reddish thing is, just below the upper bun? More tomato? Looks almost like persimmon to me...but I hope it isn't. 

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What do you think that reddish thing is, just below the upper bun? More tomato? Looks almost like persimmon to me...but I hope it isn't. 

 

I think that's the bacon. The colours in the picture are a bit strange, but they list bacon and I don't see it anywhere else.

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The bun is described as that typical 'red velvet bread' as served with every burger in the west.

 

The top looks like it's been dipped in caramel.  But other than  that, I don't get what makes it a monstrosity. 

 

Looks like your typical $19 gastro-pub burger (house pickles, egg, check, check ✅ ✅)  Though the bun would be either brioche or charcoal.  And it needs a flavored mayo/aioli but maybe that's the 'homemmade sauce' 🤷‍♀️

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came across this monstrosity.

Not sure if I would call it monstrosity as it looks similar to many burgers (not fastfood) in the US. Australian beef can be also found here. American cheese is more a description how the “cheese” is made (easy to melt) but is also used in Europe as a description. And restaurants also tend to name many things here as homemade even though it wasn’t made anywhere near the restaurant (or even city)

 

You also showed further up some more unusual pizza creation which are also not this unusual as you see pizza dough becoming more and more a “blank canvas” to put all kinds to culinary creations on it. Here in Northern California Indian pizzas are in the moment quite popular - saag paneer or butter chicken pizza anybody?

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The top looks like it's been dipped in caramel.  But other than  that, I don't get what makes it a monstrosity. 

 

Looks like your typical $19 gastro-pub burger (house pickles, egg, check, check ✅ ✅)  Though the bun would be either brioche or charcoal.  And it needs a flavored mayo/aioli but maybe that's the 'homemmade sauce' 🤷‍♀️

My immediate reaction was - pretzel bun. been seeing those a lot.  And bacon could be Canadian so not strips. 

 

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it needs a flavored mayo/aioli but maybe that's the 'homemmade sauce'

 

Here? No chance!

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5 minutes ago, Honkman said:

Australian beef can be also found here.

 

But is it descriped as "Typically American?

 

6 minutes ago, Honkman said:

American cheese ... ... is also used in Europe as a description.

 

I know. I'm European. I will argue though that is isn't cheese!

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