Iconic noodles dishes

[liuzhou]

Do perogies and potstickers count?

 

Not being noodles in any imaginable way. probably not.

Edited August 15, 2014 by liuzhou (log)

[Anna N]

Not being noodles in any imaginable way. probably not.

Interesting response. Corinne Trang, author of Noodles Every Day, has a different take.

"A cookbook on Asian noodles would not be complete without a chapter on dumplings and buns. Considered to be part of the same food group as noodles…"

Just saying.

[liuzhou]

Not being noodles in any imaginable way. probably not.

 

I have no idea who Corinne Trang is, but is she seriously suggesting that anyone looking at this would think "Oh Yes! Noodles!"?

 

 

Just asking.

Edited August 15, 2014 by liuzhou (log)

[Anna N]

I can't teally speak for Ms. Trang. But at the same time I can sort of understand where she's coming from. Andrea Nguyen in Asian Dumplings says:

"Writing in the third century C.E., Chinese poet Shu Xi, considered one of the most learned men of his day, described a number of Chinese foods made from wheat as being members of the bing family of doughy concoctions. In "Rhapsody on Bing" Shu Xi lumped filled dumplings, stuffed buns, baked and fried bread, and noodles in that one category of food..."

There is an accent on the i of bing which I cannot replicate.

[Blether]

Did we include nagashi soumen yet? They're iconic. You can even do nagashi spaghetti (that's

not so iconic, though).

Edited August 16, 2014 by Blether (log)

[Anna N]

Good heavens! I had never heard of these and so googled them.

http://www.japantrendshop.com/chohiehie-north-pole-nagashi-somen-noodle-fountain-p-1769.html

Away with the chocolate fountain and in with the noodle fountain!

[Sophie Cook]

For me, it has to be these (in priority order!):

 

1. Ramen from kitakata, japan (pictured!)

2. Laksa

3. Vietnamese Pho

 

 

[takadi]

Noodles, particularly noodle soups, make up a huge part of vietnamese cuisine

 

Pho

Bun Bo Hue

Bun Rieu

Banh Canh

Mi Vit Tiem 

Hu Tieu Nam Vang

Mi Quang

Bun Mam

 

And countless others

[Dejah]

Ho fun: rice noodles.

 

Would steamed rice rolls count?

 

[Lisa Shock]

Good heavens! I had never heard of these and so googled them.

http://www.japantrendshop.com/chohiehie-north-pole-nagashi-somen-noodle-fountain-p-1769.html

Away with the chocolate fountain and in with the noodle fountain!

 

If anyone is interested, there are units for sale on eBay at a much lower price.

[Blether]

Everything gets product-ised in the end.  Nagashi somen, in the wild, looks like this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZP9gvJvijE

 

tanoshii = enjoy!

(and flame = frame, at a guess).

 

Traditionally, the half-pipes are bamboo.  Here's another one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7ZzW5fqt-o

 

It's a summer party thing.  Everyone has their bowl of dipping sauce, and off you go.  Depending on the size of the venue and event, you can be more or less creative with the scale and layout of the chute network.

Edited August 18, 2014 by Blether (log)

[liuzhou]

Of course, Spag Bol

 

[dcarch]

Interesting noodle making

 

dcarch

 

[SobaAddict70]

Interesting response. Corinne Trang, author of Noodles Every Day, has a different take.

"A cookbook on Asian noodles would not be complete without a chapter on dumplings and buns. Considered to be part of the same food group as noodles…"

Just saying.

I think they count.

Noodles are basically dough rolled out or hand-pulled, then cut or formed into shapes.

Dumplings are dough that have been rolled out, cut, then folded over a filling. Kind of like ravioli.

[liuzhou]

 

"A cookbook on Asian noodles would not be complete without a chapter on dumplings and buns.

 

I think they count.

Noodles are basically dough rolled out or hand-pulled, then cut or formed into shapes.

Dumplings are dough that have been rolled out, cut, then folded over a filling. Kind of like ravioli.

 

Regarding 'dumplings', I see where you are coming from, although personally, I would never refer to ravioli or jiaozi etc as noodles. 

 

What really gets me is the inclusion of buns. They are nowhere near alike. A totally different form of dough (usually yeasted) and cooking method.

[Jaymes]

My personal favorite, pancit:  http://pinchofyum.com/filipino-pancit

[SobaAddict70]

Regarding 'dumplings', I see where you are coming from, although personally, I would never refer to ravioli or jiaozi etc as noodles. 

 

What really gets me is the inclusion of buns. They are nowhere near alike. A totally different form of dough (usually yeasted) and cooking method.

 

Probably because it involves dough.

 

The form of the dough doesn't seem to be an issue.

[Blether]

Bacon rolls, then.

 

[dcarch]

Regarding 'dumplings', I see where you are coming from, although personally, I would never refer to ravioli or jiaozi etc as noodles. 

 

What really gets me is the inclusion of buns. They are nowhere near alike. A totally different form of dough (usually yeasted) and cooking method.

 

Agree.

 

Otherwise I will start calling pizza noodles.

 

dcarch

[Beebs]

I wonder if the noodle/dumpling thing is just a matter of being lost in translation.  The Mandarin pronunciation for both flour dough and noodles sound the same, "mian" (I am completely illiterate in the language, so someone else can confirm if the written character is the same).  Or specifically "mian fen" and "mian tiao" - but whenever anyone in my family said "mian", we all know which one is being referred to, from the context.

 

So I suppose one could understandably lump dumplings, noodles, and anything made of flour in the same category, and I think it makes sense to put them all in the same chapter in a cookbook ("Stuff Made From Dough").  Although I have yet to see a Chinese style filled dumpling that looks remotely like a noodle, much less buns made of yeasted dough....  

 

Except for flour dumplings in soup, "mian ge da", made of a thickish sticky batter of flour+water, thumb-sized blobs of which are dropped into simmering soup to cook, a bit like spatzle.  Or like cutting noodles.  One of my favourite comfort foods!

 

And I'm going to contribute spatzle as another iconic noodle dish!

[Blether]

Yeah, Duvel introduced Käsespätzle in the 4th post here.  Long ago I had a South German mother-in-law whose spaetzle were excellent, though I don't recognise them in the description "thumb-size blobs".  They were more like udon in physical form, though with an airier texture..

 

For me, if we're to be strict, noodle's an English word.  The dictionary I have here says it comes from German nudel.  On that basis, even ravioli is pushing it

 

Wikipedia:  Noodle is quite informative.

Edited August 20, 2014 by Blether (log)

[Anna N]

..........

 

So I suppose one could understandably lump dumplings, noodles, and anything made of flour in the same category, and I think it makes sense to put them all in the same chapter in a cookbook ("Stuff Made From Dough").  Although I have yet to see a Chinese style filled dumpling that looks remotely like a noodle, much less buns made of yeasted dough....  

.......

 

This I agree with. A broad categorization just like animal, vegetable, mineral but then I ask where do Mandarin pancakes and such fall?

[liuzhou]

 

The Mandarin pronunciation for both flour dough and noodles sound the same, "mian" (I am completely illiterate in the language, so someone else can confirm if the written character is the same).

 

Almost correct. The Mandarin term for "wheat flour (面粉)" and "wheat noodles (面条)" are both abbreviated to  面 miàn. So yes, the written character is the same.

 

Rice noodles, however, are 米粉 (mǐ fěn) which means both "rice flour" and "rice noodles".

 

As you say, the context sorts out the difference 99% of the time - a common feature of Chinese.

 

The local specialty here, which I have mentioned and illustrated upthread is 螺蛳粉(luó sī fěn). The first two characters mean a type of snail, then we have 'fěn'. Any Mandarin speaker would know immediately that it was a rice noodle dish, although I've seen it translated as "snail powder". The joys and hilarity of Google MisTranslate

Edited August 20, 2014 by liuzhou (log)

[CatPoet]

In Sweden we have  Stuvade makaronier ,  it is elbow pasta in a thick milk sauce and we eat it most often with sausage.

[dcarch]

This I agree with. A broad categorization just like animal, vegetable, mineral but then I ask where do Mandarin pancakes and such fall?

 

In the category of "cookies".

 

dcarch