Food-Friendly Camera?

[onetoughcookie]

I just heard about a new Olympus camera that apparently is very good for

photographing food! I went to the Olympus website (www.olympusamerica.com) but

couldn't find the specifics on this.

Has anyone heard any more detail about this new kind of camera? For those of us who

take pix of our own products for websites, clients, etc., it might be really interesting!

[Tepee]

A camera that's very good for photographing food?? In what ways? Do you remember how these features were sold?

I shoot a lot of food (self-plug), mostly using a 50mm f/1.4 lens (but I use other lenses as well) or playing with the aperture (for the desired depth of field) or lighting. Most cameras (well, all dSLRs) do this, no? I'm all ears and would love to know why it is emphasized that this new Olympus is perfect for food photography?

[onetoughcookie]

"FOOD PHOTOS FOR AMATEURS

Ever swooned so much over a perfectly plated meal that you've just had to snap a shot before taking the first bite? You're not alone. We were thrilled to learn that Olympus <http://www.olympusamerica.com/> has a "cuisine function" on seven of this year's point-and-shoot digital cameras. The function is basically a macro setting that works especially well for food photography. "

This was a blurb that came to me from Gourmet Magazine's weekly email.

For an amateur such as myself, it's very enticing. I don't know if it's a just a marketing ploy, or

if it really works!

Can't speak to macros and plug-ins....but can to chocolate and vanilla

[MGLloyd]

This is not new. Olympus has had the 'food' mode on several Stylus models for a few years now. If I recall correctly, it sets the camera to a wide aperture and slower shutter speed with some onboard flash for fill in. It gives a nice depth of field.

I have a couple of the water-resistant Stylus cameras that I use when backpacking and don't want to haul the Canon 20D outfit.

[jsmith]

I don't have experience with this camera, but my general experience with preset modes on cameras is that one is better off getting one that lets you set the aperature, shutter speed, and focus manually and then just set it to what the situation calls for.

The settings aren't very complicated. A smaller aperature number makes the picture brighter, but less of the picture will be in focus (not always a bad thing). A slower shutter speed will also make the picture brighter, but will be more susceptible to shaky hands.

[nakji]

I think I have one of these cameras - the FE-230?...it has a "cuisine" setting. I don't find it much different from using the regular macro setting, but I'm completely clueless about photography anyway. The problem with my food photography is that I usually take pictures at night, which requires a flash. When combined with a macro setting, it often casts a shadow over the bottom of the photo.

Like jsmith says, I have a hard time getting shots in focus. If you want to see the photos taken with this camera, check out my pictures in the "Dinner...what did we cook?" thread.

[onetoughcookie]

I think I have one of these cameras - the FE-230?...it has a "cuisine" setting. I don't find it much different from using the regular macro setting, but I'm completely clueless about photography anyway. The problem with my food photography is that I usually take pictures at night, which requires a flash. When combined with a macro setting, it often casts a shadow over the bottom of the photo.

Like jsmith says, I have a hard time getting shots in focus. If you want to see the photos taken with this camera, check out my pictures in the "Dinner...what did we cook?" thread.

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WOW.....very sharp detail! While I'm a 'point and click' kinda gal, I do have the blue

lights and the grey background paper that I rig up when I want to photo my cakes.

I'd like to be able to take really good photos of my work for my website.

Please feel free to look at the site and tell me what you think can improve my photo-ability...

other than hiring a professional photographer!

http://www.onetoughcookienyc.com

[Susan in FL]

Does anyone have updated information or a recommendation for a good little pocket camera for digital food photos (and for good snaphots in general)? I am going to remain on the amateur level and I am giving serious consideration to selling my Canon Digital Rebel XT and all the stuff I bought to go with it, and returning to a point-and-shoot. It's too much to carry around, and that's the main reason I'm not getting my money's worth of this camera. I would appreciate hearing what you have, if you use a camera in this way and are happy with the results, or if you know of something to stay away from.

[MGLloyd]

I bought the SO a Canon SD850 IS, with a 2 gig memory card, for $ 300 at Costco.com. She absolutely loves it. I do the major photography with my Canon 20D and umpteen lenses and what not, but she takes some very, very good shots with hers. It is simple enough to use as a point and shoot but has some finer control if she ever wants to do that.

Edited November 4, 2007 by MGLloyd (log)

[Susan in FL]

That sounds like something to consider. I don't think my photos with this camera I have now are much better than with the little thing I had before (custody of which went to my ex husband). Thanks.

[prasantrin]

That sounds like something to consider.  I don't think my photos with this camera I have now are much better than with the little thing I had before (custody of which went to my ex husband).  Thanks.

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Are you using the camera primarily at home for food pictures?

One of the reasons I chose my camera (Canon A620, purchased about 2 years ago) was because it used AA batteries. I travel a few times a year, usually for 2 weeks or more each time, and I find AA batteries to be the most convenient. I don't have to worry about getting a convertor for recharging the camera, and should both my sets of batteries run out of juice, I can pick up some alkaline ones very easily. But if you're using it mostly at home, that's not really an issue.

I also liked my camera because it could be used on auto setting, or I could set the aperture and speed myself. That would be a nice feature for you, since it's more like an SLR. It's nice to have options.

It also has a great macro feature. I really like the close ups I can take with it--they're very clear (when I remember to use macro).

However, this particular series of Canons isn't really "pocket-sized" unless you have big pockets. Some of the newer models are a bit smaller and lighter (only using 2 AA batteries, rather than the 4 mine uses), but quite honestly, I've been thinking of getting a smaller, lighter camera with similar features. Pretty much any camera that uses AA batteries will be a bit larger and heavier, though, so I might be stuck for options (for me, AA batteries is a must).

A great website for reviews is Digital Photography Review. They offer much more information than I need, so I usually just look at the specs and the "Conclusion" page of each camera for the recommendation (strongly recommended, recommended, not recommended, etc.).

[onetoughcookie]

That sounds like something to consider.  I don't think my photos with this camera I have now are much better than with the little thing I had before (custody of which went to my ex husband).  Thanks.

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Are you using the camera primarily at home for food pictures?

One of the reasons I chose my camera (Canon A620, purchased about 2 years ago) was because it used AA batteries. I travel a few times a year, usually for 2 weeks or more each time, and I find AA batteries to be the most convenient. I don't have to worry about getting a convertor for recharging the camera, and should both my sets of batteries run out of juice, I can pick up some alkaline ones very easily. But if you're using it mostly at home, that's not really an issue.

I also liked my camera because it could be used on auto setting, or I could set the aperture and speed myself. That would be a nice feature for you, since it's more like an SLR. It's nice to have options.

It also has a great macro feature. I really like the close ups I can take with it--they're very clear (when I remember to use macro).

However, this particular series of Canons isn't really "pocket-sized" unless you have big pockets. Some of the newer models are a bit smaller and lighter (only using 2 AA batteries, rather than the 4 mine uses), but quite honestly, I've been thinking of getting a smaller, lighter camera with similar features. Pretty much any camera that uses AA batteries will be a bit larger and heavier, though, so I might be stuck for options (for me, AA batteries is a must).

A great website for reviews is Digital Photography Review. They offer much more information than I need, so I usually just look at the specs and the "Conclusion" page of each camera for the recommendation (strongly recommended, recommended, not recommended, etc.).

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Thanks for the new site to peruse. I have always used "Steve's Digi-cams", and am excited

to see a new website. I should post something in "Pastry and Baking". Patrick, a frequent contributor, is not only an excellent baker, but a really excellent photographer! I wonder what

camera he uses?

[Marlene]

I recently acquired this camera for taking food pictures. I had the Canon A630 and I found it had trouble in low light settings. This one is somewhat bulkier than a pocket point and shoot, but you don't have to switch lenses and cart a bunch of stuff around with it. I've been really happy with it.

[onetoughcookie]

I recently acquired this camera for taking food pictures.  I had the Canon A630 and I found it had trouble in low light settings.  This one is somewhat bulkier than a pocket point and shoot, but you don't have to switch lenses and cart a bunch of stuff around with it.  I've been really happy with it.

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Are you referring to the Olympus? Which model?

[Marlene]

No. If you click on the link, it's a Panasonic DMC-FZ18 Lumix.

[onetoughcookie]

No. If you click on the link, it's a Panasonic DMC-FZ18 Lumix.

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Whoops.....my eyes missed the link...Thank you so much!

[Marlene]

It also has a "food setting" and I tend to switch between it and the auto intelligent setting for food pictures, depending on the light, and how close up I want to get. The food setting, for example works really well in low light such as restaurants, without having to resort to a flash. It also has a telescopic lens, so I was able to shoot pics of the deer at our cottage, down by the lake, from our deck and get a clear, non fuzzy shot. No changing of lenses, a food setting and a really good macro setting. Plus it has a built in "shake proof" feature, so that I don't need a tripod to set the camera on, and I'm coming away with a lot fewer blurry shots.

Edited November 12, 2007 by Marlene (log)

[Susan in FL]

Are you using the camera primarily at home for food pictures?

I was, but now I want my camera to be more all-purpose. I don't do as much food photography as I used to, but I want it to be good when I do. I want a camera more convenient for travel, so that's a very good point about AA batteries.

One of the reasons I chose my camera (Canon A620, purchased about 2 years ago) was because it used AA batteries.  I travel a few times a year, usually for 2 weeks or more each time, and I find AA batteries to be the most convenient.  I don't have to worry about getting a convertor for recharging the camera, and should both my sets of batteries run out of juice, I can pick up some alkaline ones very easily.  But if you're using it mostly at home, that's not really an issue.

I also liked my camera because it could be used on auto setting, or I could set the aperture and speed myself.  That would be a nice feature for you, since it's more like an SLR.  It's nice to have options.

It also has a great macro feature.  I really like the close ups I can take with it--they're very clear (when I remember to use macro).

However, this particular series of Canons isn't really "pocket-sized" unless you have big pockets.  Some of the newer models are a bit smaller and lighter (only using 2 AA batteries, rather than the 4 mine uses), but quite honestly, I've been thinking of getting a smaller, lighter camera with similar features.  Pretty much any camera that uses AA batteries will be a bit larger and heavier, though, so I might be stuck for options (for me, AA batteries is a must).

Pocket-size might have been a bit of an understatement. Big pocket or purse-size will be a lot better than all I have to carry around with me now.

A great website for reviews is Digital Photography Review.  They offer much more information than I need, so I usually just look at the specs and the "Conclusion" page of each camera for the recommendation (strongly recommended, recommended, not recommended, etc.).

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I am heading to that site now. Thanks so much for all the information.

I recently acquired this camera for taking food pictures.  I had the Canon A630 and I found it had trouble in low light settings.  This one is somewhat bulkier than a pocket point and shoot, but you don't have to switch lenses and cart a bunch of stuff around with it.  I've been really happy with it.

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It also has a "food setting" and I tend to switch between it and the auto intelligent setting for food pictures, depending on the light, and how close up I want to get.  The food setting, for example works really well in low light such as restaurants, without having to resort to a flash.  It also has a telescopic lens, so I was able to shoot pics of the deer at our cottage, down by the lake, from our deck and get a clear, non fuzzy shot.  No changing of lenses, a food setting and a really good macro setting.  Plus it has a built in "shake proof" feature, so that I don't need a tripod to set the camera on, and I'm coming away with a lot fewer blurry shots.

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Thanks, Marlene. Your food photos are good; that's a testament for sure! I am hoping for something that works well in low light settings.

[Gifted Gourmet]

Decided to skip the DSLR cameras and was thrilled with Canon's newest camera which came out in October of this year: the Powershot G9 ...

Small enough to carry into restaurants, unobtrusive, no batteries to buy (rechargable one now), anti-shake, and 12 megapixels ...

the G9

some of my better food photos can be seen here

[Fibilou]

Our trusty digital has bitten the dust and I'm after a new camera. Maximum spend of around £250 - $500. I want something that is going to produce nice pictures for my cake business and to post on here.

[feedmec00kies]

I like my Canon Powershot S3 IS very much, and will shamelessly promote it to you. It's a great overall camera. It has a good bit of zoom (which might not be important to you) and of course a macro (and super-macro) setting, which might be of more help to you in food photography. They have a new version of the camera, the Powershot S5... here's the specs and a review on digital photography review.

It's not slip-in-a-pocket small, but I grew up using my dad's old Canon AE-1, and just the lens on that thing weighs more than my camera. Also, I can't imagine using manual settings on one of those tiny little things.

Unfortunately, as it isn't a DSLR, ISO 400 and up tends to become extremely grainy; this is a problem for me because I hate using a flash. Good lighting is key.

[dougal]

Our trusty digital has bitten the dust and I'm after a new camera. Maximum spend of around £250 - $500. I want something that is going to produce nice pictures for my cake business and to post on here.

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The camera is still going to need help "to produce nice pictures".

Controlling the lighting allows you to make a big difference.

A compact camera with inbuilt, directionally-fixed flash *only* is kinda limiting. Its a snapshot camera.

The ability to connect other flashguns (typically via a 'hotshoe') is an important attribute for a studio (even a home studio) camera.

Even 'bouncing' flash off the ceiling makes a big difference to the 'modelling' (use of light and shadows to show shape)...

For still life subjects (like food) a tripod can be advantageous.

Your budget of "around £250" is awfully close to PCWorld's advertised £269 (after cashback) deal on the Nikon D40... a proper digital SLR. I can't see you needing more camera than that. (No idea though if there might be even better deals on offer for it.)

Edited December 19, 2007 by dougal (log)

[feedmec00kies]

The camera is still going to need help "to produce nice pictures".

Controlling the lighting allows you to make a big difference.

A compact camera with inbuilt, directionally-fixed flash *only* is kinda limiting. Its a snapshot camera.

The ability to connect other flashguns (typically via a 'hotshoe') is an important attribute for a studio (even a home studio) camera.

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The Powershot S5 does actually has a hotshoe connection (unfortunately, the S3 doesn't). I would like to reiterate that it is a very good overall camera for the price, even if it's "compact". Its street price is also listed on digital photography preview to be about £183, which is certainly cheaper than your spending limit. And you could probably find it for less.

After mentioning something to my boyfriend, he suggests that if you buy a DSLR, to get the Canon Rebel XT plus the Canon 50mm f1.8 lens. He said the lens is less than $100, and the Rebel XT can be found online for $400 - about £250 total. He suggests the DSLR because the Powershot S3 can't really get depth of field, which could be pretty important. And I quote the boyfriend: "That said, they'll be very limited in what they can do at least in terms of zoom but they'll get beautiful pictures." You'll have to get other lenses for zoom and that stuff (you might want to consider that when thinking about your purchase, depending on how tight your budget is and if you're going to really want to use the camera for a lot of other things...).

A tripod, as dougal said, is important. And you don't have to spend that much, especially if you're only using it for the cakes and won't be transporting it significantly.

I don't really have any food photography to show you right now, but my boyfriend proposed that he and I set up some food this weekend and try and take pictures with our respective cameras (he has a Canon 30D, if I'm not mistaken), and let you compare.

Edited December 20, 2007 by feedmec00kies (log)

[dougal]

The Nikon D40 is about as cheap as a digital SLR gets, right now.

With the basic zoom lens included, at £270 (that PCW deal), its £200 cheaper than a year ago. But its still £270... with the basic lens.

And who knows what it might be next year...

The Canon 350d ("RebelXT" in the US) is a better camera.

But its also more expensive.

With its basic lens £370 on amazon uk.

And £340 without any lens looks a keen online price.

Its definitely a full step above the D40.

And while the "fast" (ie wide-opening to f1.8) non-zoom (fixed) medium telephoto is a nice choice for 'studio' photography, adding that to a body-only deal looks to me like its going to end up at £400 UK tax-paid in Dec 07. Unfortunately.

Edited December 21, 2007 by dougal (log)

[feedmec00kies]

Woo depth of field..

My boyfriend decided on cheez-its because he figured if even they could look decent, well....

He says: "The point of this is to show the difference in kinds of pictures you get with a digital SLR vs a normal digital. The first one represents what you'd get with a non-slr -- full depth of field and almost no bokeh -- the blurring effect seen in the 2nd picture.

"Both with the same lens, same camera... just different f-stops to represent different depth of fields.

(A little different than I thought he meant about the cameras. This makes more sense anyway).

"Gourmet food photography benefits strongly from a small depth of field (lots of blurring). Stick a wide aperture lens (such as the 50mm f1.8 mentioned above) on an SLR and you can get the effect quite easily. Pretty much the only food photos I've seen that doesn't employ the effect are McDonalds hamburger pictures."

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And as for the price of the Canon Rebel XT, dougal: I didn't look up the price in the UK, and (wrongly) assumed it wasn't going to be $400 in the US and £400 in the UK. I just converted the cost in dollars to pounds.

Maybe someone should take advantage of the weak American dollar...

Edited December 22, 2007 by feedmec00kies (log)