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Corned Beef At Home: Recipes, Tips, etc.

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rotuts

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there id no reasonable explanation

 

because it does not exist.

 

why corned beef ?

 

ConAgra  or AgraCon ?

 

Im sure it has something to do

 

dans le plate

 

with what "" Irish "" ate 

 

it boiled  ( to death )

 

but its escapes me

 

and in the Era Before 

 

in Irish immigrant neighborhoods 

 

it was a time to have a '' traditional ""

 

boiled dinner 

 

and drink a lot of beer and

 

do foolish things 

 

https://www.history.com/topics/st-patricks-day/history-of-st-patricks-day

heidih

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29 minutes ago, liuzhou said:

Something I've never understood. Why does America 'celebrate' St. Patrick's Day at all? Don't tell me it's only those with Irish ancestry.

And why corned-beef, something Patrick almost certainly never ate? He certainly didn't drink Guinness which wasn't invented until around 1200 years after his time.

And he wasn't Irish!

Can anyone point me to a rational eplanation? i have looked.

As many cultures do, we clutch at excuses for holidays. After Valentines on Feb 14 there is a gap till Easter which jumps around. Plus it is portrayed as happy jolly  with a "green light" for all day boozing AND you get to pinch anyone who does not wear something green. That is my take from the marketing/consumer angle.

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3 hours ago, liuzhou said:

Can anyone point me to a rational explanation? i have looked.

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6 hours ago, liuzhou said:

Something I've never understood. Why does America 'celebrate' St. Patrick's Day at all? Don't tell me it's only those with Irish ancestry.

Why do Americans celebrate Cinco de Mayo? It's not just American Mexicans who celebrate the day (and they don't really....the important day to celebrate for Mexican Americans is actually in September 16th which is Mexican Independence Day).

As for St. Paddy's Day, it's a reason to drink alcohol and eat good food. Who needs an excuse?

  

And why corned-beef, something Patrick almost certainly never ate?

As for the corned beef...it's an American knock-off of something the Irish ate back in the old country. More here (click).

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6 hours ago, liuzhou said:

Something I've never understood. Why does America 'celebrate' St. Patrick's Day at all?

 

 

We have a Catholic church near us that has a "French Market" event every year.  We also have a Greek Orthodox church that hosts a greek festival annually.

 

One of the perks of living in a multicultural society is being able to pile onto/into ethnic events.

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47 minutes ago, Toliver said:

Why do Americans celebrate Cinco de Mayo? It's not just American Mexicans who celebrate the day (and they don't really....the important day to celebrate for Mexican Americans is actually in September 16th which is Mexican Independence Day).

As for St. Paddy's Day, it's a reason to drink alcohol and eat good food. Who needs an excuse?

  


And why corned-beef, something Patrick almost certainly never ate?

As for the corned beef...it's an American knock-off of something the Irish ate back in the old country. More here (click).

I like any holiday anywhere to celebrate and make different food than "normal" .  

 

It's dumping snow here --also the traditional day here in KS to plant potatoes.  Not happening :)  We are all cozy and warm and looking forward to homemade corned beef.

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True, corned beef isn't Irish.  Green beer isn't Irish.  St. Patrick wasn't Irish and he didn't introduce Christianity to Ireland nor did he banish all the snakes. St. Patricks Day in Ireland is a religious  holiday. In the United States it's based in part on what Irish immigrants ate in America because they were too poor to afford much of anything else.  And they didn't  save it for once a year.  Our St. Patricks day is an Irish/ American concept embellished and enlarged upon by some  people who would have trouble finding Ireland on a map.  It's a fun holiday for anyone who wants to eat and drink too much and pretend they are a little bit Irish, if only for a day. 

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17 minutes ago, Norm Matthews said:

True, corned beef isn't Irish.  Green beer isn't Irish.  St. Patrick wasn't Irish and he didn't introduce Christianity to Ireland nor did he banish all the snakes. St. Patricks Day in Ireland is a religious  holiday. In the United States it's based in part on what Irish immigrants ate in America because they were too poor to afford much of anything else.  And they didn't  save it for once a year.  Our St. Patricks day is an Irish/ American concept embellished and enlarged upon by some  people who would have trouble finding Ireland on a map.  It's a fun holiday for anyone who wants to eat and drink too much and pretend they are a little bit Irish, if only for a day. 

 

Yup.

 

And St P's day gives me a reason to have CB leftovers for reubens.

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19 minutes ago, Norm Matthews said:

True, corned beef isn't Irish.  Green beer isn't Irish.  St. Patrick wasn't Irish and he didn't introduce Christianity to Ireland nor did he banish all the snakes. St. Patricks Day in Ireland is a religious  holiday. In the United States it's based in part on what Irish immigrants ate in America because they were too poor to afford much of anything else.  And they didn't  save it for once a year.  Our St. Patricks day is an Irish/ American concept embellished and enlarged upon by some  people who would have trouble finding Ireland on a map.  It's a fun holiday for anyone who wants to eat and drink too much and pretend they are a little bit Irish, if only for a day. 

 

Yes. But why St. Patrick's Day? Why not, say, St. Andrew's Day? Equal opportunity to eat, drink and be merry.

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55 minutes ago, liuzhou said:

 

Yes. But why St. Patrick's Day? Why not, say, St. Andrew's Day? Equal opportunity to eat, drink and be merry.

Oh hell why St Valentine? Allegedly the arrival of Christianity in Ireland but ?   Yes I know the Christianization of ancient rites like Halloween, Easter etc but nobody cares. It is goofy and does not hurt; merchants especially.

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1 hour ago, heidih said:

nobody cares

 

I do. Out of idle curiosity. It is a bit odd when you think about it.

 

1 hour ago, heidih said:

It is goofy and does not hurt; merchants especially.

 

Yes, but that doesn't explain why St. Pat in particular. It could be any 'saint'.

 

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A friend of mine - Newfoundland Irish - jokingly refers to the whole exercise as "cultural inappropriation."

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rotuts

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an excuse to sell more stuff.

 

CB is rarely cooked for most people 

 

here in USofA outside SPD.

 

and @gfweb is correct.

 

its the Pre-day to CBsandwiches.  CB is also much cheaper

 

2 weeks before SPD  ( in the East , neat BOS )

 

it gets people in the mood to buy stuff at the grocery store.

 

I have no idea if CB was ever on sale in California , where I grew up.

 

and I used to SV 10 - 12 CB , cut down to 1/4 size 

 

SV , then lightly cold smoke , re-bag and freeze

 

cheap , very very tasty , and I still have a few bags in the freezer(s).

 

makes a fine sandwich any time , esp the cold smoked , esp in the summer 

 

when it warm

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44 minutes ago, Shelby said:

Had to go to the store today to get prescriptions so did some shopping.  Corned beef on sale for 2.99/lb which is good for around here.  I now have 4 corned beefs in the freezer for later :) 

Sounds like me...I have three in the freezer but I'm not sure I can stop myself from buying yet another.

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next year

 

ne freezer then

 

info two

 

a requrement

 

for serious students

 

of SV

 

N.B.:wait for Free delivery

 

in your basement

 

not y8our Curb.

 

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dans

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23 hours ago, Shelby said:

Had to go to the store today to get prescriptions so did some shopping.  Corned beef on sale for 2.99/lb which is good for around here.  I now have 4 corned beefs in the freezer for later :) 

 

I do my grocery shopping on Saturdays. I made a special trip to one of the green grocers in the area since I have my brother and his wife coming for dinner. Corned Beef was still at $8.99/lb. I would have picked up a couple for the freezer but skipping it for now.

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BeeZee

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My husband decided he wanted corned beef so he bought a small Nathan's bagged corned beef/seasonings included and I'm simmering it so it will be ready for dinner tonite. No traditional sides, made coleslaw per his request (hey, it's cabbage) and he bought some potato knishes (see? potato). I do not eat beef, so it will be all his for the next 2 days.

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52 minutes ago, dans said:

 

I do my grocery shopping on Saturdays. I made a special trip to one of the green grocers in the area since I have my brother and his wife coming for dinner. Corned Beef was still at $8.99/lb. I would have picked up a couple for the freezer but skipping it for now.

Yeah, that's a bit pricey.  That's what it is when it's not on sale here.

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heidih

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42 minutes ago, Shelby said:

Yeah, that's a bit pricey.  That's what it is when it's not on sale here.

Here it seems non existent except around this time. 

gfweb

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We can get it most of the year, but it is cheapest after StPD.

 

Uncorned brisket is generally cheaper and a better CB after you do the work.

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