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flavored cocoa butter colors

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This looks interesting - I know some of us have lamented the lack of flavor or off flavors of additives to colored cocoa butter - anyone seen or tried these?  Looks like they can be used either to mix into chocolate as a fat-based flavor or to decorate molds as usual with colored CB ...  More expensive than Valrhona Inspiration or regular colored CB, I wonder how they compare in flavor intensity, the Valrhonas I've tried were fairly intense.  I also wonder what flavors brown, black, and amber are ... https://www.pcb-creation.com/pure-emotion-colour-by-pcb-creation/?lang=en

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Edited to add: the black/ brown flavors are chocolate, of course! 🙃

 


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Are you sure these are flavored and those colors aren't just creatively named? Or maybe I'm just reading things wrong, but I don't see any indication of the extra ingredients that would flavor them, It just says no preservatives, no added flavors and no added colors. 

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I hate how they market this stuff. "Richer in pectin and natural fruit sugars, blah blah is less brittle". Yes, that's because you've added fruit powder to the cocoa butter. It's not pure cocoa butter any more. "No added colours" ... wtf? cocoa butter isn't red and orange and black naturally, so clearly there ARE added colours. What they mean is something like "no added things that you might perceive as nasty like titanium dioxide, don't worry it's all fruit based"

 

I don't see the point of flavouring the cocoa butter, to me cocoa butter is purely decoration, not flavour.

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1 hour ago, minas6907 said:

Are you sure these are flavored and those colors aren't just creatively named? Or maybe I'm just reading things wrong, but I don't see any indication of the extra ingredients that would flavor them, It just says no preservatives, no added flavors and no added colors. 

 

Yes, they contain freeze dried fruit powder, some have sugar and milk.  Ingredients are listed on AUI's site, here's the strawberry

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7 minutes ago, keychris said:

I hate how they market this stuff. "Richer in pectin and natural fruit sugars, blah blah is less brittle". Yes, that's because you've added fruit powder to the cocoa butter. It's not pure cocoa butter any more. "No added colours" ... wtf? cocoa butter isn't red and orange and black naturally, so clearly there ARE added colours. What they mean is something like "no added things that you might perceive as nasty like titanium dioxide, don't worry it's all fruit based"

 

I don't see the point of flavouring the cocoa butter, to me cocoa butter is purely decoration, not flavour.

 

I'm not sure about the pectin claim either, I thought you needed water for pectin to have effect.

 

But why not add flavor?  Why settle for just pretty when you can have pretty and delicious?

 


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12 minutes ago, pastrygirl said:

But why not add flavor?  Why settle for just pretty when you can have pretty and delicious?

 

how much do you need to add to taste it? there's literally like 0.1g of cocoa butter on the outside of a bonbon, so how much flavouring does PCB have to add to that to get it to a level you can actively taste? I just feel that the amount you need to add so that you can taste it effectively is rendering it to "not cocoa butter" in my head.

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27 minutes ago, keychris said:

 

how much do you need to add to taste it? there's literally like 0.1g of cocoa butter on the outside of a bonbon, so how much flavouring does PCB have to add to that to get it to a level you can actively taste? I just feel that the amount you need to add so that you can taste it effectively is rendering it to "not cocoa butter" in my head.

 

I don't know.  It would have to be pretty intense to get flavor from a thin layer of decoration.  On one hand, freeze dried fruit can pack a punch, on the other, they can't be adding so much that the product is too thick.  They're selling it as cocoa butter, not couverture so I'd expect it to be very fluid.  The PCB Creations site also shows it mixed with I'm guessing white chocolate in various dosages.  Here is their brochure https://www.calameo.com/books/005802807fd1cdaab6c9b

 

 


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See if AUI will give you a sample of one.  My rep has been generous with samples when I've asked so if you strike with  yours, I can ask mine.....

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Whoa so isn't that another version of the Valrhona Inspiration line?
Also I would much much rather use a natural color additive over titanium dioxide. Inn fact, titanium oxide is why I don't use colored cocoa butter.

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2 hours ago, DJ Silverchild said:

Whoa so isn't that another version of the Valrhona Inspiration line?
 

 

Sounds like the same concept of freeze dried fruit blended into cocoa butter, but this must be more liquid if they're recommending it for decoration rather than molding. 

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I actually own a couple of these, purchased by accident from PCB Creation during a late night splurge.

 

The one thing I would say is that overheating the raspberry one in the microwave was a mistake, the whole workshop STANK! It was foul. The cocoa butter and flavouring had somehow separated while stored in what I believed to be ambient conditions, so when I put it in the microwave to melt the cocoa butter, the top liquid layer of flavouring seemed to suck up all the little micro waves and proceeded to boil. It was literally only in there for 45 seconds or so, with the cap off.

 

The black one smells a bit like liquorice but its not so intense. The raspberry one smelt quite pleasant to be honest. Needless to say, I have not rushed out to buy more however.

 

Matthew

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