Serious climate- and health-related concerns about gas stoves

[FauxPas]

I thought this was a pretty good overview, written by Katelyn Jetelina, an epidemiologist who wanted to examine gas stoves as a possible public health issue. 

 

She has some good links to the various studies and also to gas industry attempts to undermine that research. And some advice on mitigating risks for people who have to, or choose to, continue cooking with gas. 

 

(If a pop-up appears, you should be able to continue by clicking on Continue Reading, I don't think you need to subscribe. I do subscribe to her newsletters because I find them well-written, however.)

[gfweb]

On 2/20/2023 at 2:49 PM, FauxPas said:

I thought this was a pretty good overview, written by Katelyn Jetelina, an epidemiologist who wanted to examine gas stoves as a possible public health issue. 

 

She has some good links to the various studies and also to gas industry attempts to undermine that research. And some advice on mitigating risks for people who have to, or choose to, continue cooking with gas. 

 

(If a pop-up appears, you should be able to continue by clicking on Continue Reading, I don't think you need to subscribe. I do subscribe to her newsletters because I find them well-written, however.)

 

YLE revealed herself to be kind of FOS in the early days of covid. She seems to be trying hard to stay in the spotlight with this sort of blog post.

 

Having said t hat she doesn't muster much serious anti-gas data. She does write from the POV that the Industry is untrustworthy and mutters about lobbyists (see, I can cast aspersions too).

 

Ultimately one has to ask if it makes sense that a 15 minute spaghetti boil will put  anyone's health at risk.

[Margaret Pilgrim]

11 hours ago, gfweb said:

 

 

Ultimately one has to ask if it makes sense that a 15 minute spaghetti boil will put  anyone's health at risk.

No sense.   Nor does boiling spaghetti for 15 minutes. 

[gfweb]

19 minutes ago, Margaret Pilgrim said:

No sense.   Nor does boiling spaghetti for 15 minutes. 

It takes time to get to a boil

[Margaret Pilgrim]

5 minutes ago, gfweb said:

It takes time to get to a boil

Oooops.  Blindsided.

[palo]

Hey NewYorkers - Any new buildings in the state are banning the use of gas:

 

https://apnews.com/article/environment-gas-ban-stoves-612319f94b42b035921bf30aad141780

 

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[weinoo]

12 hours ago, palo said:

Any new buildings in the state are banning the use of gas:

 

Kinda not exactly what the law states.

 

[palo]

3 hours ago, weinoo said:

 

Kinda not exactly what the law states.

 

Yes, there are number of exemptions, such as for emergency backup power and for commercial food establishments, laboratories and car washes. But as I read it "New York state is banning natural gas stoves and furnaces in most new buildings"

 

Pretty damn close to "exactly"

 

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[gfweb]

15 hours ago, palo said:

Hey NewYorkers - Any new buildings in the state are banning the use of gas:

 

https://apnews.com/article/environment-gas-ban-stoves-612319f94b42b035921bf30aad141780

 

p

 

Another piece of simple-minded "feel good" legislation.

[Alex]

And again...the gas industry followed big tobacco's playbook.

 

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The industry’s efforts went well beyond careful product placement, according to new research from the nonprofit Climate Investigations Center, which analyzes corporate efforts to undermine climate science and slow the ongoing transition away from fossil fuels. As the center’s study and a National Public Radio investigation show, when evidence emerged in the early 1970s about the health effects of indoor nitrogen dioxide exposure from gas stove use, the American Gas Association launched a campaign designed to manufacture doubt about the existing science.

 

[paulraphael]

Getting rid of fossil fuels is a great idea, and I look forward to the day I can replace my gas boiler and hot water heater with heat pump models.

 

The gas use of a range is negligible in comparison. I like to cook; I don't believe my gas stove use contributes to my Big American Carbon Footprint by much more than a rounding error.

 

Indoor pollution is still a big deal. But pointing the finger at gas ranges is just plain stupid. The real problem is that we don't require effective range hoods. We barely even make them available for residential installations. Almost all the range hoods designed for homes are terribly designed compared with real restaurant hoods, and the differences aren't even expensive. 

 

Hoods are THE solution to the indoor pollution problem. Because all high-heat cooking, even on an induction range, produces smoke and particulates you shouldn't breathe. If you sauté or stir fry, you're sending plumes of irritants and carcinogens into the air. It's absurd that building codes don't require real hoods. In NYC, in most buildings, you're not even allowed to have them. 

Edited November 6, 2023 by paulraphael (log)

[palo]

Not to continue to beat a dead horse, but:

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/gas-stoves-linked-childhood-asthma-study-rcna150241

 

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[gfweb]

Gas is in their crosshairs.

 

@paulraphael rightly points out that any cooking makes pollutants.