EAT! Magazine

[fud]

Personally, I have no interest in eating off a naked woman...call me narrow-minded. Actually, I'm not particularly interested in eating sushi off a naked man, either...now chocolate, that's different!

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This whole concept blows my mind. Sushi is meant to be served at a 'cool' temperature to keep the fish unspoiled. Putting fish on a cool wooden block makes sense. Putting it on a warm naked body does not.

Do I really want to eat Nigiri with warm rice? Yuck that's almost like hot beer.

[Andrew Morrison]

This whole concept blows my mind. Sushi is meant to be served at a 'cool' temperature to keep the fish unspoiled. Putting fish on a cool wooden block makes sense. Putting it on a warm naked body does not.

Do I really want to eat Nigiri with warm rice? Yuck that's almost like hot beer.

Let me rephrase this properly so it isn't so rhetorical:

"Do I really want to eat Nigiri with warm rice off the body of a naked woman?"

Yes, fud, and I'd even volunteer for the hot beer chaser.

Edited November 16, 2005 by Andrew Morrison (log)

[Zucchini Mama]

This whole concept blows my mind. Sushi is meant to be served at a 'cool' temperature to keep the fish unspoiled. Putting fish on a cool wooden block makes sense. Putting it on a warm naked body does not.

Do I really want to eat Nigiri with warm rice? Yuck that's almost like hot beer.

Let me rephrase this properly so it isn't so rhetorical:

"Do I really want to eat Nigiri with warm rice off the body of a naked woman?"

Yes, fud, and I'd even volunteer for the hot beer chaser.

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So a few years back I e-mailed an upstart women-run porn website with the idea I could so some sexy food writing. I mean, for instance I wanted to write about chefs and food writers who were "hotties". They said that it would work if I wrote about food that would say, taste great eaten off a woman's pudenda. I said, "Hmmm, well maybe you want another woman for the job." There's a gig for you Andrew.

Anyway, where can I find EAT? Suddenly it's not in my library, or community centre. How come it was all over the place two issues ago and now I can't find it in Mid Main anywhere.

Zuke (who likes her men hot and her sushi cold) How did we get on this subject anyway?

[kurtisk]

I've tried Capers, Kits Wine Cellar, bookstores, everywhere!!!

Nothin!

k.

[gingerfreak]

Yes, what IS going on with the distribution? I only just found my copy last week at Barbara Jo's at Granville Island - used to pick it up at Capers.

I do enjoy it when I can FIND it..

[barolo]

There's lots at Marquis Wine Cellars

[maxmillan]

Does anyone know why the BC liquor stores have pulled Eat?

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I asked why they didn't have the G.S. and was advised that they had a new manager who didn't allow anything but BCLD printed materials to be placed in the racks in the store. I didn't realize that maybe that meant all of B.C. That means no CityFood over here.

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It's not a particular manager that is pulling ALL non-LDB prints. It is head office's new mandate. The Lower Mainland area manager, Tim Tolmey is the person to vent your frustration. "Signature" stores will eventually replace all current LDB stores (notice the exact same decorations they have for this year's Christmas.) I think this is ridiculous as Eat and CityFood has ads related to alcohol. The LDB own magazines (which they have two) is not that great. Other place I've seen Eat is the West 16th Choices Market.

[the_real_sparky]

The word on the street is that we should watch for the next EAT magazine to do a feature on British Columbia's private wine stores.

[James Kendal]

Well,

From my point of view, EAT magazine has really come a long way. To not have it in the LDB is a major loss as a distribution center for the magazine but I am sure that it will make its way to many other stores.

Which, leads me to my next point. If the BCLDB, which is funded by tax payers and, gouges tax payers, is not going to support a legitmate publication then why should we support the BCLDB. Buy your wine from the private stores or directly from your favorite B.C. wineries. (not that I am trying to change the theme of this thread but I am sure those that know me have come to expect my rant against this ridiculous monopoly).

P.S. If Gary, Shelora, Jane or Treve are reading this post perhaps you could consider starting an editorial about the privitization movement, seeing how you have nothing to lose, and to focus on the ridiculous amount of profits the BCLDB is extracting from the private sector and from consumers. I'll be the first one in line to give you my point of view, as would many others from the restaurant sector.

Edited November 18, 2005 by James Kendal (log)

[~cayenne~]

Does anyone know why the BC liquor stores have pulled Eat?

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I asked why they didn't have the G.S. and was advised that they had a new manager who didn't allow anything but BCLD printed materials to be placed in the racks in the store. I didn't realize that maybe that meant all of B.C. That means no CityFood over here.

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It's not a particular manager that is pulling ALL non-LDB prints. It is head office's new mandate. The Lower Mainland area manager, Tim Tolmey is the person to vent your frustration. "Signature" stores will eventually replace all current LDB stores (notice the exact same decorations they have for this year's Christmas.) I think this is ridiculous as Eat and CityFood has ads related to alcohol. The LDB own magazines (which they have two) is not that great. Other place I've seen Eat is the West 16th Choices Market.

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Please don't think I was venting when I asked about the G.S., all I did was ask, and then when told, I said, well, that's too bad as the G.S. often recommended great wines and other purchases available at the B.C.L.D.B. I have noticed though of late, that many stores are disappearing, and saw an ad in a local paper on behalf of the BC employees union regarding their disapproval of that. No mention of any of that here though, until your post.

I have to wonder what restaurant owners/managers think of the aforementioned B.C.L.D.B. changes. The smaller operations seem to purchase their products directly from the local stores, will the change affect their operation or costs?

Please enlighten us, what are "Signature" stores, and will there still be "Specialty" stores?

Sounds like there is a major upheaval happening, how come nothing has really come up in the media about it. And the news last night about the raises, shi.te.......

The "Flavours" magazine is quite nice, but I have a hunch that it is based on the Ontario LDB magazine of the same nature..... any forums that I peruse that include Ontario based posters, they are thrilled and excited when a new issue is available.

Well, off to look for Eat and any hints about CityFood....... besides Granville Island, where we can find both IIRC?

[Daddy-A]

We just picked up a copy at our local VQA Store - Kensington Square Wines. Others might look to their local VQA's as well

A.

[jamiemaw]

Re: EAT distribution

Here's part of a message from EAT publisher Gary Hynes. His magazine and others were unceremoniously dumped from government liquor stores without notice:

"EAT Magazine has a strong distribution network in Victoria and Vancouver Island and is little affected there. In Vancouver we had been relying more on the government liquor stores for our distribution. I am working to build solid drop locations in the Vancouver area and as soon as I do I will post these locations on www.eatmagazine.ca Although we have over 100 pick-up locations in Vancouver many become sold out within a few days and don't get restocked until the end of the week.

In the meantime, the Marquis Wine Cellar on Davie has an EAT stand and is very reliable. Other good locations are the Liberty Wine stores, Taylorwood Wines and Urban Fare in Yaletown. The Kitsilano Wine Cellar, Choices, Gourmet Warehouse, Barbara-Jo's Books to Cooks, Cookworks on Broadway and Tools n Techniques in West Van."

[Andrew Morrison]

I get my copy at Capers in West Van. Thanks for the info, Jamie. What about restaurants? Any volunteered for a stack?

[merlin]

.....or as was "gently" suggested by I think Jane, one can subscribe.

My copy "winged" its way over the Rockies last week. I am already planning our next visit and we just got back three weeks ago.

[bigdaddy]

Edited November 18, 2005 by bigdaddy (log)

[jamiemaw]

Well,

If the BCLDB, which is funded by tax payers and, gouges tax payers, is not going to support a legitmate publication then why should we support the BCLDB.

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Maybe that's the point here....how can a government store carry one "legitimate publication" (despite what we may think of it's worth) and then not be obliged to carry whatever other publication comes along? Would "taxpayers" approve of one professional publication being given priority over another?

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Well, it turns out that Gary Hynes, the publisher of EAT, had more to say. Here's his full email to me:

Hi Jamie,

Thanks for getting in touch and thank-you for your encouraging words on egullet.

Yes, the LDB has banned all local and free publications from all its stores (not just EAT but Cityfood, Boulevard, the Dining Guide and all others). They have also banned wine event posters and buskers. There is an exception to this edict, though. They have allowed a Prairie-based drinks magazine called Flavours to remain. One has to wonder why? Although the LDB denies having an interest in Flavours, there are rumours that the LDB is secretly supporting this out-of-province magazine. Should BC tax payers be supporting non/BC businesses instead of their own?

EAT has been allowed to distribute through government liquor stores for the past seven years - always with the permission of the store managers, many of whom called me to request the magazine for their stores. This change was enacted without any prior consultation or notice and I know that many other publications were simply thrown into the recycling bin (fortunately no EATs were destroyed).

I called the person in charge of this decision. He said the reason they were making changes were "the local stores managers have been making their own decisions for far too long and this has been stopped". and "We are a franchise and need to act like one. All our stores will have the same look and be controlled by head office."

EAT Magazine has a strong distribution network in Victoria and Vancouver Island and is little affected there. In Vancouver we had been relying more on the government liquor stores for our distribution. I am working to build solid drop locations in the Vancouver area and as soon as I do I will post these locations on www.eatmagazine.ca Although we have over 100 pick-up locations in Vancouver many become sold out within a few days and don't get restocked until the end of the week.

In the meantime, the Marquis Wine Cellar on Davie has an EAT stand and is very reliable. Other good locations are the Liberty wine stores, Taylorwood Wines and Urban Fare in Yaletown. The Kitsilano Wine Cellar, Choices, Gourmet Warehouse, Barbara-Jo's Books to Cooks, Cookworks on Broadway W. and Tools n Techniques in West Van.

Subscriptions are also available and anyone having trouble finding a copy can email me at editor@eatmagazine.ca and I'll locate a copy for them.

Thanks again, Jamie,

Best regards,

Gary

[~cayenne~]

^ Thank you for posting this Jamie, very informative.

[jamiemaw]

^ Thank you for posting this Jamie, very informative.   

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As much as contemporary publishing is about providing stimulating and informative editorial to prevent the ads from bumping into each other, it is also very much about distribution.

As Gary noted in his email to me, after seven years he had these logical distribution points taken away without notice. The explanations, such as they are, appear unsatisfactory.

If you would like to express your opinion on this issue, you can let them know how you feel here (when the form comes up on your screen, click on "our stores"):

BCLDB Communications

Let's post their replies here too, or we can start a separate thread.

PS: I sent my inquiry to them "Would you please tell me why EAT (Epicurean & Travel) Magazine is no longer available in your stores." at 10:45 am Saturday.

Edited November 19, 2005 by jamiemaw (log)

[bigdaddy]

There is an exception to this edict, though. They have allowed a Prairie-based drinks magazine called Flavours to remain. One has to wonder why? Although the LDB denies having an interest in Flavours, there are rumours that the LDB is secretly supporting this out-of-province magazine. Should BC tax payers be supporting non/BC businesses instead of their own?

Obviously, the plot thickens...

Sole distribution would be a pretty sweet deal...and if that's the case, undoubtedly there is a deal in there somewhere! Flavours is no small operation, but part of a much larger group that markets aggressively.

Edited November 19, 2005 by bigdaddy (log)

[janevm]

Well,

From my point of view, EAT magazine has really come a long way. To not have it in the LDB is a major loss as a distribution center for the magazine but I am sure that it will make its way to many other stores.

Which, leads me to my next point. If the BCLDB, which is funded by tax payers and, gouges tax payers, is not going to support a legitmate publication then why should we support the BCLDB. Buy your wine from the private stores or directly from your favorite B.C. wineries. (not that I am trying to change the theme of this thread but I am sure those that know me have come to expect my rant against this ridiculous monopoly).

P.S. If Gary, Shelora, Jane or Treve are reading this post perhaps you could consider starting an editorial about the privitization movement, seeing how you have nothing to lose, and to focus on the ridiculous amount of profits the BCLDB is extracting from the private sector and from consumers. I'll be the first one in line to give you my point of view, as would many others from the restaurant sector.

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Hi James,

we have it on the agenda for the new year and I'll remember to get your POV

Jane

[appreciator]

Just a note for anyone looking for EAT at Choices on West 16th Avenue... they don't have any at the moment. Apparently, I was the third person asking for it today

[kurtisk]

Just a note for anyone looking for EAT at Choices on West 16th Avenue... they don't have any at the moment.  Apparently, I was the third person asking for it today 

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Kits Wine Cellar, nada. Broadway Wine Shop, nada. Capers, same...

k

[Memo]

I've got a folded copy sitting right beside me on the desk.

Since I rarely get the chance to read EAT aloud, I'm thinking of making up some audio books tonight.

Requests being taken.

Memo

[appreciator]

^ LOL

[gingerfreak]

Hey EAT-seekers:

I posted a few days ago that I couldn't find EAT in my usual Capers (Robson) pickup point - a stack of 'em was there yesterday