@KennethT Oh my I now have you to thank for a clear visual image of elderly Chinese folks chasing pidgeons in parks! My prior romantic embedded image was the flock a guy would release that flew over the 110 freeway on my way to work. Leader bird was white. Very acrobatic bunch. My aerial area https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-12-hl-252-story.html
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