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i've some vacuum-packed meats in the freezer that should have been used up a few months ago (i.e. they are about a year old: beef, duck breasts, pork fatback). Are there any arguments besides possible fat rancidity against using them for stocks/sauces or patés/terrines?

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If they have been vacuumed, there will be no rancidity - fats need oxygen to go rancid. I don't see any reason to not use them.

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If they have been vacuumed, there will be no rancidity - fats need oxygen to go rancid. I don't see any reason to not use them.

Yes, but there is always some residual oxygen in a vacuum bag and over time, even that may cause some rancidity. To not waste fresh ingredients, I'll fry up and taste a small sliver of the frozen meats before using them.

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I just look for freezer burn!! Cut it off.. use at or digression..

Fat is the worry for me..

I use in tomato base sauces alot

Edited by Paul Bacino (log)

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as long as it looks good, the bag is still sealed, and once you thawed it it doesn't have "freezer smell" to it, use it. I tend to use things lie that in more robust ways, bbq, stir fry, something with lots of extra flavors, just in case the meat isn't at it's glorious best anymore. But I've used meat that was frozen for a quite long time with no ill effects and could not find any flavor problems either.

Definitely don't throw it out until you thawed it. If really in doubt do as stated above and fry up a small piece, and cut off freezer burn if you find some.

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Smelled normal after thawing, no freezer burn that I could see. Used a bit of beef to bolster the venison I used to make the red wine glaze from MCaH. This I've already tasted (well, the glaze) - completely normal.

The rest (some more beef, two duck breasts) I've ground up with pâté spices to make a pâté de campagne. It's waiting in the freezer for Wednesday, I didn't have the energy to finish the pâté yesterday evening.

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As others have said I would check for signs of rancidity but wouldn't have any problems using the meat. I wouldn't use them for a pate personally (or other dishes that rely on high quality for best results). I would use them for stocks (pressure cooked) or other high heat processes to extract their meaty goodness.

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I'd use it without hesitation--I vacuum seal all our venison and wild boar, and have never had a problem with it. As long as the seal has held, and there is no evidence of freezer burn, it should be just fine. In fact, after cleaning out my freezer last week, I found a perfectly sealed, vacuum-packed venison boned ham from 2003 (!) and pressure-cooked it with wine, garlic and other goodies. Tasted just fine, and none of us have died yet from it. :biggrin:

I will note that I did throw out some things whose seal had failed, and showed extensive freezer burn. Sometimes those are just not worth saving.

Leigh

Edited by aberwacky (log)
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Like most use by dates etc I think you can suitably work out if there is a food risk purely by sniffing. Whether they has been degradation in the quality is much more difficult to identify without actually cooking it them and trying

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