Pork sausage in Kosher-themed Noahs Bagels

[ladybugseattle]

New menu items at the Broadway Noahs Bagels include bagel dough baked around various Anhuls sausages including pork andouille. Considering their theme marketing of the products should one be offended at the insensitivity, could it possibly be extreme ignorance?

[tighe]

Where's Fish when you need him?? I'm sure he'd love to jump on this bandwagon.

[tsquare]

Looking at the corporate website, the only thing identified these days as kosher are the beef franks. They also have bacon on the menu - sandwiches and breakfast items. And it Aidell's sausages. Not bad.

Probably neither insensitive nor ignorant, just corporate.

[ScorchedPalate]

The location inside the U.Village QFC is kosher (dairy), unless I am mistaken

[JasonTrue]

They have a bit of a Yiddish shtick in their marketing-speak, but I don't think they claim to be Kosher.

I remember making homemade bagels and bringing them to a group of people I was working with at the Japan Center of my university in Germany. I had given advance notice so people could bring their own toppings. My professor said, "I heard that one can eat these with ham..."

I said, "well, that's certainly possible, but it would be inconsistent with custom, since these are associated with Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe and Russia in the U.S., and they don't tend to eat a lot of ham..."

He ate his with ham.

[Jason Perlow]

I dunno. Certainly there is a Jewish connection with Bagels in the Ashkenaze tradition, but Kosherness and Bagels are mutually exclusive unless you are at a Kosher bagel shop (or more specifically, an "Appetizing Store") in a orthodox Jewish neighborhood.

I like my breakfast bagel sandwiches with Taylor Pork Roll, with a little bit of salt, pepper and ketchup myself.

[winesonoma]

Noahs Bagels are offensive. Boy did they change over the years. Not a bagel anymore. Yuck.

[dandelion]

I know I've seen signs in Noah's Bagels asking that you don't bring in outside food because they are kosher. This was awhile ago, and perhaps only at the couple of locations that I used to go to, but it was definitely a rule.

[JasonTrue]

It sounds like part of their shtick more than anything else... "It's not Kosher to bring in outside food." Really?

I can't think of a way that a shop that serves sandwiches with both cream cheese and meat on the same bagel could be Kosher, anyway. Though I don't have any cultural authority, I don't think you can be fleischig and milchig on the same bagel

I know I've seen signs in Noah's Bagels asking that you don't bring in outside food because they are kosher. This was awhile ago, and perhaps only at the couple of locations that I used to go to, but it was definitely a rule.

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[ScorchedPalate]

The one at U.Village is kosher in the traditional sense of the word. No meat products are sold, and they do have the sign Dandelion mentions.

Edited to add: the SF Bay Area stores have sold the BagelDogs for at least the last few months. Here they're kosher beef hot-dogs and (beef) Polish sausages, or Aidell's sausages: Chicken-Portobello, Cajun Andouille (pork), and Artichoke/Garlic (chicken/beef). They also sell a number of panini and some hot and cold sandwiches.

And yeah, their bagels aren't very bagel-y. But if you think of them as spherical bread, they're not half bad.

Edited September 8, 2005 by ScorchedPalate (log)

[malarkey]

When Noah's first opened in Seattle, they were Kosher. They dropped it pretty quickly though, I believe within a year.