Tenderizing steak and beef with fruit marinade

[Shel_B]

Recently, I was intruduced to the concept of marinating various steak and beef cuts in fruit marinade. Pineapple, Asian Pear, Papaya marinades were used among others An acquaintance provided this link.

 

https://youtu.be/OMWrbaOxj3k

 

Have you tried this technique and what has been your experience?

[liuzhou]

I haven't used it myself, but it is common here in south China and SE Asia. However, not with steaks (which aren't a feature of most of the cuisines). 

 

I have elaborated on the Asian pears and their role in marinades in this topic.

 

 

[btbyrd]

Enzymes make it mushy. YMMV.

[Dr. Teeth]

I’ve used Asian pear (kalbi) and papaya (terrible bbq as part of bbq team in my 20’s).   As BTbyrd says it runs the risk of making meat mushy if used for a prolonged marinade.

 

That said, it’s important to remember that enzymes themselves are protein catalysts.   So they will themselves denature and stop working if exposed to heat, particularly high heat like grilling.   Commercial products like premade kalbi marinade I buy probably have had the enzyme denatured by cooking before you get it.

 

So it’s mostly experimentation

 

i found a rather nice article, but I’m too dumb to know how to link it

Edited 13 hours ago by Dr. Teeth
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[liuzhou]

1 hour ago, Dr. Teeth said:

I’ve used Asian pear (kalbi)

 

Kalbi is Korean for ribs (갈비- kalbi) ; it refers to a dish in which Asian pear is used to tenderise the ribs. It isn't the name of the pears.

[Shel_B]

1 hour ago, Dr. Teeth said:

I found a rather nice article, but I’m too dumb to know how to link it

Here's a thought: Why not post the name of the site and the name of the article?

Ex: AbcWebsite.com  Bob's article about enzymes

[Dr. Teeth]

1 hour ago, liuzhou said:

 

Kalbi is Korean for ribs (갈비- kalbi) ; it refers to a dish in which Asian pear is used to tenderise the ribs. It isn't the name of the pears.

Nor is papaya a form of terrible barbecue I made in my 20’s

 

Hmm.  

[Dr. Teeth]

1 hour ago, Shel_B said:

Here's a thought: Why not post the name of the site and the name of the article?

Ex: AbcWebsite.com  Bob's article about enzymes

A very reasonable suggestion.   I was posting from my phone and being lazy.

 

Chu el al.  ”An Investigation on the Effects of Varying Temperatures on Gelatin Denaturation in Response to Enzymatic Reactions from Fruit Extracts.” Journal of Industrial Biotechnology. Vol3, Issue 1, Pages 10-18.

[Shel_B]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Teeth said:

Chu el al.  ”An Investigation on the Effects of Varying Temperatures on Gelatin Denaturation in Response to Enzymatic Reactions from Fruit Extracts.” Journal of Industrial Biotechnology. Vol3, Issue 1, Pages 10-18.

 

This is what I found. Thanks.

https://scholars.direct/Articles/industrial-biotechnology/jib-3-003.pdf

[Dr. Teeth]

Uhh, yeah.   That’s the one.   It helps to know that I do research in addition to clinical work.

 

I have an ability to be fascinated with things other people find skull numbingly boring