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At the end of a fast, such as my people just had on Yom Kippur, there is typically a festive meal. Some people I know call it "breakfast" and some call it a "break fast" -- the latter, I suppose, to distinguish it from the morning meal (which also derives from the notion of breaking a fast). So, when writing about something like a Yom Kippur fast-breaking meal, is it one word or two?

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The Orthodox Jews that I know call it the Break Fast Meal. So I would say it's two words.

At one time I knew the Yiddish term but it has been many years since I heard or used it.

When I was young, prior to my marriage, I lived with an Orthodox family for almost two years.

I was their "Shabbos Goy" and was treated like one of their daughters.

I turned on the lights, lit the stove, opened and closed the fridge, did some cooking, ran errands delivered messages. I learned a great deal and enjoyed it immensely and when I got married they gave me a pile of gifts.

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I don't see any confusion.

Breakfast clearly refers to the morning meal (albeit that it is derived from the notion of breaking the overnight fast).

A meal to end a true fast is understandable as a 'break fast meal', although a 'breaking fast meal' sounds more natural to me.

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Perhaps the confusion is entirely localized to me. But if you look in Merriam-Webster it says "first meal of the day," which, on a fast day, could be at night.

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Here's a link to an article where the usage is break-fast.

"There are, it has been said, two types of people in the world. There are those who say: this glass is half full. And then there are those who say: this glass is half empty. The world belongs, however, to those who can look at the glass and say: What's up with this glass? Excuse me? Excuse me? This is my glass? I don't think so. My glass was full! And it was a bigger glass!" Terry Pratchett

 

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If you search the Google news archives, you get 15 results for "Yom Kippur breakfast" and 25 results for "Yom Kippur break-fast" and "Yom Kippur break fast" combined (the space and hyphen seem to be treated the same by that search engine). Not sure what that says about anything. Just reporting it.

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Posted

our family calls it "break the fast"...as used in a sentence: "are you coming to our house for break the fast?"

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As a term, I'm used to hearing it (in this specific context, I mean) as 'breakfast'; can't think of any time I've seen it written, but would expect to see it/be inclined to write it as a single, unhyphenated word. I'm most accustomed to hearing this as a phrase (e.g. '...going to so-and-so's place to break the fast'.

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I hear it as 'we're breaking the fast at so&sos'. So&so's invitation read 'breaking-the-fast meal'.

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