hello all

[Cj]

Hey All. I'm new and just would like to say cheers.

I have always loved rum and as most I started out with rum & cokes in my teens. But now in my mid30's I like it neat and if I can..... a good cigar goes well with it.

I can not call myself a collector (yet)  but yes I like to find the hard to find or rare stuff. ( Ya know that sayimg drink less but drink good) It is a shame that I can find all sorts of scotch whiskys or even cognac but good rum is a bit more difficult to find. I like Bacardi 8 and HC 7yrs, I can get thoughs fairly easy and can afford to drink them when I like. Have a couple of bottles of Appleton 21 so ever now and then I can have a glass. But the others I'm a little slow at opening only because I only have 1 bottle of it and it might be hard to replace. Ya know saving it for a special time!! These others I have are they hard to find and replace??? (here comes the list)

like: Ron Matusalem 15,  Pyrat XO Reserve, Doorly's XO, El Dorado SR 15 yrs, Cruzan Single Barrel, Ron Zacapa Centenario,  Mount Gay Extra Old.

I live the UK but shall be moving back to the states soon and I would really like to know if I would be able to find this again fairly easily after I move back to WA state. Or are these treasured things I should not count on replace after they are gone?? The only other ?? I have is .......that Havana Club 15yrs is it worth the +200 pound That is over 跌 for it. I do understand that it might not be availible in the USA sooo I'm thinking about getting a bottle before I move back.....IS it worth it or should I ask does it taste great with less filling?? haha

Once again hello all ya rum lovers!!

cjbohl

[Bolivar Petit Corona]

Welcome, Cj!

Buy HC15 in Germany, and pay less.  Cuban rum is illegal in he u.S.  So bring back all you can.

If the Matusalem 15 is Cuban, it will become rare, as it is no longer made, nor exported, because of trademark issues.  Only the non-Cuban Matusalem is marketed now.

(Edited by Bolivar Petit Corona at 11:16 am on Jan. 21, 2002)

[Cj]

Ya the Matusalem is not Cuban ( on the back it says Matusalem & Co. Miami Fl) oh well......I'm sure it will taste great.

I have a freind going to Cuba next month; how much does a bottle of HC 15 go for there?? Or what else could/ should I ask for??

[Bolivar Petit Corona]

๠-贄, or so I've been told.  Look at the cA links I posted for Cuban rum, where they rate the various brands.

But, obviously, they should look for Cuban Matusalem.

[JOHN REEKIE]

CJ ...You have raised an interesting situation, which I will add my thoughts to. On returning to the States, instead of rums easily available in the States. So why not bring back rums that anybody would be envious of, but are more or less impossible to find in the States. Forget H15 at 跌, wait for your traveling friend and aquire one at ๠-贄.

We do not know your circumstance and how much you intend to bring home. But maybe you should make it a 'case of rum' and pay the taxes and duty, its well worth it. I think a returning American is allowed the first five bottles anyway.

My suggestion is to find British -imported, barrel aged, blended, married, finished and bottled Caribbean rums.

You have already found Cadenheads of Scotland, do you know that they have a store in 'Covent Garden' in the center of London. Well worth a visit if you can get there. Maybe discuss that they do the shipping for you, to the States to one of their agents, saves you the bother of lugging it around, breakage etc.

To any body in the forum, William Cadenhead, in Scotland, bottles 15 different rums from individual Caribbean stills, all of diferent maturities and each bottling slightly different from the previous one.-Wonderfull Rums!. A limited amount and selection of these rums can now be found in the States.

Also another Scotish rum from -Gordon & mcPhail, Demerra distilled in 1974, then shipped to Elgin Scotland -bottled in 2002, cask no.99-100,46%(Thats 27 years in oak).I have a bottle of this fine rum.

Then there are the -Bristol Spirists 'Classic Rum's -6 rum bottlings  aged 10 to 23 years. All from individual Stills in the Caribbean. These are becoming available in the states, here in Canada I will never be able to get them.

United Rum Merchants ,thats Lambs, put out a -'Special Consignment -1949 Limited Edition -Distilled in 1939'. (but still only a 10 year old rum. cost $$$)

Thomson's 'Estate Mark 1989 -Barbados from WIRR'. and Thomson's 'Estate mark 1980 -Demerara from the Diamond Distiller. Are two other examples of British importing ageing etc and bottling.

Holsons various rums ,-Holsons 9 yr old/46%, barbados from WIRR. - Holsons 11 yr old/46%, Versailles still, Demerara.  -Holsons 16 yr old/46%, Enmore Distillery , Demerara.  Then the -'Holsons West Indies Rum British Navy Rum'-Distilled 18th September 1940. Bottled 20th September 1993 -53 years in oak.

What I have been trying to say is why bring back rums from mega bottlers available anywhere. Find the true rums(out of the islands that is ).But at the same time watch out for the British cheap dark young blends of navy rums.

Being in Britain , with the European Open Market, you should be able to hunt down some exceptional rare French rums, thorogh the agents.

Also in London there are a couple of Pubs/bars specialising in rums with up to a hundred or so rums, I am told, but unfortunatly I have no reference to these. Ask around for them,it would be a wonderfull experience if you found them. Can anybody in the forum give any information to CJ. also let us know what experience you have in one of these 'Rum Pubs'

 

CJ -Good luck, I would be interested to find out how this ends up.

[ELA]

FYI (and sorry I haven't been around for a while) -- the Cuban Matusalem is not really available any longer -- even in Cuba -- or so I have been told by a few friends in the know.

Apparently, they have stopped producing Matusalem (the 15 version I believe), for a variety of reasons. Ed could probably confirm more facts but I'll look into the story.

Af far as the HC15 -- one of my favorites -- I would pay ๠ to 贄 all day long, thus it's worth it to me. 跌 -- well that's another story. I forget the price in Cuba, but I'll ask my friend who is leaving for the island next week.

Eric

[Stephan Macha]

Quote: from JOHN REEKIE on 11:08 am on Jan. 26, 2002

CJ ...You have raised an interesting situation, which I will add my thoughts to. On returning to the States, instead of rums easily available in the States. So why not bring back rums that anybody would be envious of, but are more or less impossible to find in the States. Forget H15 at 跌, wait for your traveling friend and aquire one at ๠-贄.

We do not know your circumstance and how much you intend to bring home. But maybe you should make it a 'case of rum' and pay the taxes and duty, its well worth it. I think a returning American is allowed the first five bottles anyway.

My suggestion is to find British -imported, barrel aged, blended, married, finished and bottled Caribbean rums.

You have already found Cadenheads of Scotland, do you know that they have a store in 'Covent Garden' in the center of London. Well worth a visit if you can get there. Maybe discuss that they do the shipping for you, to the States to one of their agents, saves you the bother of lugging it around, breakage etc.

To any body in the forum, William Cadenhead, in Scotland, bottles 15 different rums from individual Caribbean stills, all of diferent maturities and each bottling slightly different from the previous one.-Wonderfull Rums!. A limited amount and selection of these rums can now be found in the States.

Also another Scotish rum from -Gordon & mcPhail, Demerra distilled in 1974, then shipped to Elgin Scotland -bottled in 2002, cask no.99-100,46%(Thats 27 years in oak).I have a bottle of this fine rum.

Then there are the -Bristol Spirists 'Classic Rum's -6 rum bottlings  aged 10 to 23 years. All from individual Stills in the Caribbean. These are becoming available in the states, here in Canada I will never be able to get them.

United Rum Merchants ,thats Lambs, put out a -'Special Consignment -1949 Limited Edition -Distilled in 1939'. (but still only a 10 year old rum. cost $$$)

Thomson's 'Estate Mark 1989 -Barbados from WIRR'. and Thomson's 'Estate mark 1980 -Demerara from the Diamond Distiller. Are two other examples of British importing ageing etc and bottling.

Holsons various rums ,-Holsons 9 yr old/46%, barbados from WIRR. - Holsons 11 yr old/46%, Versailles still, Demerara.  -Holsons 16 yr old/46%, Enmore Distillery , Demerara.  Then the -'Holsons West Indies Rum British Navy Rum'-Distilled 18th September 1940. Bottled 20th September 1993 -53 years in oak.

What I have been trying to say is why bring back rums from mega bottlers available anywhere. Find the true rums(out of the islands that is ).But at the same time watch out for the British cheap dark young blends of navy rums.

Being in Britain , with the European Open Market, you should be able to hunt down some exceptional rare French rums, thorogh the agents.

Also in London there are a couple of Pubs/bars specialising in rums with up to a hundred or so rums, I am told, but unfortunatly I have no reference to these. Ask around for them,it would be a wonderfull experience if you found them. Can anybody in the forum give any information to CJ. also let us know what experience you have in one of these 'Rum Pubs'

 

CJ -Good luck, I would be interested to find out how this ends up.

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