Jump to content
  • Welcome to the eG Forums, a service of the eGullet Society for Culinary Arts & Letters. The Society is a 501(c)3 not-for-profit organization dedicated to the advancement of the culinary arts. These advertising-free forums are provided free of charge through donations from Society members. Anyone may read the forums, but to post you must create a free account.

Edit History

AlaMoi

AlaMoi

okay.  word origins aside -

. . . .

physically. . . . in USA terminology . . .

"to grill"  is exposing the "target"   - supported on some "structure" - to heat from the bottom, heat intensity 'undefined'

"to broil" is exposing the "target"   - supported on some "structure" - to heat from above, heat intensity 'undefined'

 

"BBQ" is a real can of worms even in US parlance.  my take is low heat, usually indirect, long long cooking time.

basically sous vide without water or bag . . .

high volume operation often employ a vertically rotating chain arrangement - others simple flat racks.

definite worm can . . . .

 

so,,,, how does one classify Greek vertical rotisserie meats ala ''shiskabob' . . . and all fifty spellings thereof . . .

or a USA "ox roast" - on a huge rotating horizontal spit over open coals . . .

or "roasted chicken" on a rotating spit, on a vertically oriented rotating conveyor rack, exposed to heat "from the side" . . .

((in Germany, this was/is "Wiener Wald" style....if you need an image....))

 

should we be concerned, for those other than quaint historians . . . with Shakespearean definitions, or real live today meanings of "words?"

just as US "All Purpose Flour"  is UK "Plain Flour" and US "Bread Flour" is "Strong Flour" . . .

different words for the same thing.

 

the same cooking "methods" identified by different "words" - which is the point.

the etymological word origin(s)  (did  I get that spelling right.....) is not remotely meaningful as to how the "words" are used today.

AlaMoi

AlaMoi

okay.  word origins aside -

. . . .

physically. . . . in USA terminology . . .

"to grill"  is exposing the "target"   - supported on some "structure" - to heat from the bottom, heat intensity 'undefined'

"to broil" is exposing the "target"   - supported on some "structure" - to heat from above, heat intensity 'undefined'

 

"BBQ" is a real can of worms even in US parlance.  my take is low heat, usually indirect, long long cooking time.

basically sous vide without water or bag . . .

 

so,,,, how does one classify Greek vertical rotisserie meats ala ''shiskabob' . . . and all fifty spellings thereof . . .

or a USA "ox roast" - on a huge rotating horizontal spit over open coals . . .

or "roasted chicken" on a rotating spit, on a vertically oriented rotating conveyor rack, exposed to heat "from the side" . . .

((in Germany, this was/is "Wiener Wald" style....if you need an image....))

 

should we be concerned, for those other than quaint historians . . . with Shakespearean definitions, or real live today meanings of "words?"

just as US "All Purpose Flour"  is UK "Plain Flour" and US "Bread Flour" is "Strong Flour" . . .

different words for the same thing.

 

the same cooking "methods" identified by different "words" - which is the point.

the etymological word origin(s)  (did  I get that spelling right.....) is not remotely meaningful as to how the "words" are used today.

×
×
  • Create New...