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rotuts

@paulraphael 

 

""  I'm just not sold on non-stick pans as the best choice "

 

"" The technical reasons people like Mitch and me saute on sticky pans aren't just hot air.  ""

 

OK  not the  point  Im making.   my point is very very simple 

 

 SS is outstanding   not the question here

 

keep them   enjoy them  I did and do !

 

but ....

 

Raymond Blanc

 

only has , I think 2 Michelin stars:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Blanc

 

and , yes , in the manner of ATK

 

has his own cooking line of pots and pans ;

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raymond-Blanc-Professional-Anodised-Cookware/dp/B003P4EKB8

 

used in his restaurant 

 

worth a look if you can find them :

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01bqwlm/episodes/guide

 

not to drive them point into the ground:

 

I have both types :

 

Id love to try one of RB pans

 

or Jamie Oliver's :

 

https://www.tefal.com/Cookware-&-Kitchenware/Pots-&-Pans/Cooking-like-Jamie-Oliver/Jamie-Oliver-Stainless-Steel/p/R-jamie-oliver-stainless-steel

 

this sort of pan is available in Canada , I hear

 

my point was very simple :

 

Fond  ( any pan's ) + Maillard ( from that same pan ) = a constant  ( 0n your plate )

 

the pans should be well made and thick enough not to scorch or burn in spots

 

no more . no less.  heavy well made SS pans work well w repeated abuse etc

 

but ....   I can do as well w similar ingredients w T-Fal.

 

Im betting if Raymond Blanc switched to heavy copper // SS pans from France

 

might he get that third star ?  laugh a little here please !

 

unlikely.  

 

ATK  Oooing An Awiing about Fond in a 200 $ pan ?

 

come on , enjoy what you have 

 

I do and sometimes do w my FR copper SS  pans 

 

now    T-fal is OK for me.

 

USA  not Canadien or RB's pans

 

sigh.  Id love to try them 

 

I might get 1/8's of a star if I could move up.!

 

P.S. :    Im guessing my T-Fal pans would not stand up

 

that well w restaurant abuse.   

 

but I dont abuse them .

 

back to a cleaning issue :

 

970723209_ss.jpg.c4c054d3a7d66e3ac2674416dc3584e4.jpg

 

this might or might not need some BarKeepersFriend

 

or not.  My FR SS copper pans dd from time to time

 

T-Fal does not.

 

did not mean to touch a nerve or two.

 

really.

 

 

rotuts

rotuts

@paulraphael 

 

""  I'm just not sold on non-stick pans as the best choice "

 

"" The technical reasons people like Mitch and me saute on sticky pans aren't just hot air.  ""

 

OK  not the  point  Im making.   my point is very very simple 

 

 SS is outstanding   not the question here

 

keep them   enjoy them  I did and do !

 

but ....

 

Raymond Blanc

 

only has , I think 2 Michelin stars:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Blanc

 

and , yes , in the manner of ATK

 

has his own cooking line of pots and pans ;

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raymond-Blanc-Professional-Anodised-Cookware/dp/B003P4EKB8

 

not to drive them point into the ground:

 

I have both types :

 

Id love to try one of RB pans

 

or Jamie Oliver's :

 

https://www.tefal.com/Cookware-&-Kitchenware/Pots-&-Pans/Cooking-like-Jamie-Oliver/Jamie-Oliver-Stainless-Steel/p/R-jamie-oliver-stainless-steel

 

this sort of pan is available in Canada , I hear

 

my point was very simple :

 

Fond  ( any pan's ) + Maillard ( from that same pan ) = a constant  ( 0n your plate )

 

the pans should be well made and thick enough not to scorch or burn in spots

 

no more . no less.  heavy well made SS pans work well w repeated abuse etc

 

but ....   I can do as well w similar ingredients w T-Fal.

 

Im betting if Raymond Blanc switched to heavy copper // SS pans from France

 

might he get that third star ?  laugh a little here please !

 

unlikely.  

 

ATK  Oooing An Awiing about Fond in a 200 $ pan ?

 

come on , enjoy what you have 

 

I do and sometimes do w my FR copper SS  pans 

 

now    T-fal is OK for me.

 

USA  not Canadien or RB's pans

 

sigh.  Id love to try them 

 

I might get 1/8's of a star if I could move up.!

 

P.S. :    Im guessing my T-Fal pans would not stand up

 

that well w restaurant abuse.   

 

but I dont abuse them .

 

back to a cleaning issue :

 

970723209_ss.jpg.c4c054d3a7d66e3ac2674416dc3584e4.jpg

 

this might or might not need some BarKeepersFriend

 

or not.  My FR SS copper pans dd from time to time

 

T-Fal does not.

 

did not mean to touch a nerve or two.

 

really.

 

 

rotuts

rotuts

@paulraphael 

 

""  I'm just not sold on non-stick pans as the best choice "

 

"" The technical reasons people like Mitch and me saute on sticky pans aren't just hot air.  ""

 

OK  not the  point  Im making.   my point is very very simple 

 

 SS is outstanding   not the question here

 

keep them   enjoy them  I did and do !

 

but ....

 

Raymond Blanc

 

only has , I think 2 Michelin stars:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Blanc

 

and , yes , in the manner of ATK

 

has his own cooking line of pots and pans ;

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raymond-Blanc-Professional-Anodised-Cookware/dp/B003P4EKB8

 

not to drive them point into the ground:

 

I have both types :

 

Id love to try one of RB pans

 

or Jamie Oliver's :

 

https://www.tefal.com/Cookware-&-Kitchenware/Pots-&-Pans/Cooking-like-Jamie-Oliver/Jamie-Oliver-Stainless-Steel/p/R-jamie-oliver-stainless-steel

 

this sort of pan is available in Canada , I hear

 

my point was very simple :

 

Fond  ( any pan's ) + Maillard ( from that same pan ) = a constant  ( 0n your plate )

 

the pans should be well made and thick enough not to scorch or burn in spots

 

no more . no less.  heavy well made SS pans work well w repeated abuse etc

 

but ....   I can do as well w similar ingredients w T-Fal.

 

Im betting if Raymond Blanc switched to heavy copper // SS pans from France

 

might he get that third star ?  laugh a little here please !

 

unlikely.  

 

ATK  Oooing An Awiing about Fond in a 200 $ pan ?

 

come on , enjoy what you have 

 

I do and sometimes do w my FR copper SS  pans 

 

now    T-fal is OK for me.

 

USA  not Canadien or RB's pans

 

sigh.  Id love to try them 

 

I might get 1/8's of a star if I could move up.!

 

P.S. :    Im guessing my T-Fal pans would not stand up

 

that well w restaurant abuse.   

 

but I dont abuse them .

 

back to a cleaning issue :

 

970723209_ss.jpg.c4c054d3a7d66e3ac2674416dc3584e4.jpg

 

this might or might not need some BarKeepersFriend

 

or not.  My FR SS copper pans dd from time to time

 

T-Fal does not.

 

 

rotuts

rotuts

@paulraphael 

 

""  I'm just not sold on non-stick pans as the best choice "

 

"" The technical reasons people like Mitch and me saute on sticky pans aren't just hot air.  ""

 

OK  not the  point  Im making.   my point is very very simple 

 

 SS is outstanding   not the question here

 

keep them   enjoy them  I did and do !

 

but ....

 

Raymond Blanc

 

only has , I think 2 Michelin stars:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Blanc

 

and , yes , in the manner of ATK

 

has his own cooking line of pots and pans ;

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raymond-Blanc-Professional-Anodised-Cookware/dp/B003P4EKB8

 

not to drive them point into the ground:

 

I have both types :

 

Id love to try one of RB pans

 

or Jamie Oliver's :

 

https://www.tefal.com/Cookware-&-Kitchenware/Pots-&-Pans/Cooking-like-Jamie-Oliver/Jamie-Oliver-Stainless-Steel/p/R-jamie-oliver-stainless-steel

 

this sort of pan is available in Canada , I hear

 

my point was very simple :

 

Fond  ( any pan's ) + Maillard ( from that same pan ) = a constant  ( 0n your plate )

 

the pans should be well made and thick enough not to scorch or burn in spots

 

no more . no less.  heavy well made SS pans work well w repeated abuse etc

 

but ....   I can do as well w similar ingredients w T-Fal.

 

Im betting if Raymond Blanc switched to heavy copper // SS pans from France

 

might he get that third star ?  laugh a little here please !

 

unlikely.  

 

ATK  Oooing An Awiing about Fond in a 200 $ pan ?

 

come on , enjoy what you have 

 

I do and sometimes do w my FR copper SS  pans 

 

now    T-fal is OK for me.

 

USA  not Canadien or RB's pans

 

sigh.  Id love to try them 

 

I might get 1/8's of a star if I could move up.!

 

P.S. :    Im guessing my T-Fal pans would not stand up

 

that well w restaurant abuse.   

 

but I dont abuse them .

 

 

 

rotuts

rotuts

@paulraphael 

 

""  I'm just not sold on non-stick pans as the best choice "

 

"" The technical reasons people like Mitch and me saute on sticky pans aren't just hot air.  ""

 

OK  not the  point  Im making.   my point is very very simple 

 

 SS is outstanding   not the question here

 

keep them   enjoy them  I did and do !

 

but ....

 

Raymond Blanc

 

only has , I think 2 Michelin stars:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Blanc

 

and , yes , in the manner of ATK

 

has his own cooking line of pots and pans ;

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raymond-Blanc-Professional-Anodised-Cookware/dp/B003P4EKB8

 

not to drive them point into the ground:

 

I have both types :

 

Id love to try one of RB pans

 

or Jamie Oliver's :

 

https://www.tefal.com/Cookware-&-Kitchenware/Pots-&-Pans/Cooking-like-Jamie-Oliver/Jamie-Oliver-Stainless-Steel/p/R-jamie-oliver-stainless-steel

 

this sort of pan is available in Canada , I hear

 

my point was very simple :

 

Fond  ( any pan's ) + Maillard ( from that same pan ) = a constant  ( 0n your plate )

 

the pans should be well made and thick enough not to scorch or burn in spots

 

no more . no less.  heavy well made SS pans work well w repeated abuse etc

 

but ....   I can do as well w similar ingredients w T-Fal.

 

Im betting if Raymond Blanc switched to heavy copper // SS pans from France

 

might he get that third star ?  laugh a little here please !

 

unlikely.  

 

ATK  Oooing An Awiing about Fond in a 200 $ pan ?

 

come on , enjoy what you have 

 

I do and sometimes do w my FR copper SS  pans 

 

now    T-fal is OK for me.

 

USA  not Canadien or RB's pans

 

sigh.  Id love to try them 

 

I might get 1/8's of a star if I could move up.!

 

 

 

rotuts

rotuts

@paulraphael 

 

""  I'm just not sold on non-stick pans as the best choice "

 

"" The technical reasons people like Mitch and me saute on sticky pans aren't just hot air.  ""

 

OK  not the  point  Im making.   my point is very very simple 

 

 SS is outstanding   not the question here

 

keep them   enjoy them  I did and do !

 

but ....

 

Raymond Blanc

 

only has , I think 2 Michelin stars:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Blanc

 

and , yes , in the manner of ATK

 

has his own cooking line of pots and pans ;

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raymond-Blanc-Professional-Anodised-Cookware/dp/B003P4EKB8

 

not to drive them point into the ground:

 

I have both types :

 

Id love to try one of RB pans

 

or Jamie Oliver's :

 

https://www.tefal.com/Cookware-&-Kitchenware/Pots-&-Pans/Cooking-like-Jamie-Oliver/Jamie-Oliver-Stainless-Steel/p/R-jamie-oliver-stainless-steel

 

this sort of pan is available in Canada , I hear

 

my point was very simple :

 

Fond  ( any pan's ) + Maillard ( from that same pan ) = a constant  ( 0n your plate )

 

the pans should be well made and thick enough not to scorch or burn in spots

 

no more . no less.  heavy well make SS pans work well w repeated abuse etc

 

Im betting if Raymond Blanc switched to heavy copper // SS pans from France

 

might he get that third star ?  laugh a little here please !

 

unlikely.  

 

ATK  Oooing An Awiing about Fond in a 200 $ pan ?

 

come on , enjoy what you have 

 

I do and sometimes do w my FR copper SS  pans 

 

now    T-fal is OK for me.

 

USA  not Canadien or RB's pans

 

sigh.  Id love to try them 

 

I might get 1/8's of a star if I could move up.!

 

 

 

rotuts

rotuts

@paulraphael 

 

""  I'm just not sold on non-stick pans as the best choice "

 

"" The technical reasons people like Mitch and me saute on sticky pans aren't just hot air.  ""

 

OK  not the  point   SS is outstanding   not the question here

 

keep them   enjoy them  I did and do !

 

but ....

 

Raymond Blanc

 

only has , I think 2 Michelin stars:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Blanc

 

and , yes , in the manner of ATK

 

has his own cooking line of pots and pans ;

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raymond-Blanc-Professional-Anodised-Cookware/dp/B003P4EKB8

 

not to drive them point into the ground:

 

I have both types :

 

Id love to try one of RB pans

 

or Jamie Oliver's :

 

https://www.tefal.com/Cookware-&-Kitchenware/Pots-&-Pans/Cooking-like-Jamie-Oliver/Jamie-Oliver-Stainless-Steel/p/R-jamie-oliver-stainless-steel

 

this sort of pan is available in Canada , I hear

 

my point was very simple :

 

Fond  ( any pan's ) + Maillard ( from that same pan ) = a constant  ( 0n your plate )

 

no more . no less.

 

Im betting if Raymond Blanc swished to heavy copper // SS pans from France

 

might he get that third star ?

 

com on , enjoy what you have 

 

I do and did w my FR copper SS  .

 

now    T-fal is OK for me.

 

USA  not Canadien or RB's pans

 

sigh.

 

I might get 1/8's of a star if I could move up.

 

 

 

rotuts

rotuts

@paulraphael 

 

""  I'm just not sold on non-stick pans as the best choice "

 

OK

 

Raymond Blanc

 

only has , I think 2 Michelin stars:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Blanc

 

and , yes , in the manner of ATK

 

has his own cooking line of pots and pans ;

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Raymond-Blanc-Professional-Anodised-Cookware/dp/B003P4EKB8

 

not to drive them point into the ground:

 

I have both types :

 

Id love to try one of RB pans

 

or Jamie Oliver's :

 

https://www.tefal.com/Cookware-&-Kitchenware/Pots-&-Pans/Cooking-like-Jamie-Oliver/Jamie-Oliver-Stainless-Steel/p/R-jamie-oliver-stainless-steel

 

this sort of pan is available in Canada , I hear

 

my point was very simple :

 

Fond  ( any pan's ) + Maillard ( from that same pan ) = a constant  ( 0n your plate )

 

no more . no less.

 

Im betting if Raymond Blanc swished to heavy copper // SS pans from France

 

might he get that third star ?

 

com on , enjoy what you have 

 

I do and did w my FR copper SS  .

 

now    T-fal is OK for me.

 

USA  not Canadien or RB's pans

 

sigh.

 

I might get 1/8's of a star if I could move up.

 

 

 

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