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That certainly is an adult drink.

I'd file this under 'shit happens'. Like rotuts, I would suspect something in the aging which then was exacerbated by the rolling and low temperature cooking. Try again with unrolled meat and be sure your temperature is accurate. You are in the range where a degree or two can make a big difference to the pasteurization time. If you look back through the SV threads, I think there are a few examples of fairly random problems like this. If you still have the problem, cook the meat a different way or find a different butcher.

I guess the first very hot step is to kill surface pathogens. At what temperatures do the enzymes break down and at what temperature are they the most active?

I suppose you might lose some moisture - I didn't notice any drying around the cuts, though. On the other hand I would think you could get more smoke into the inside of the chiles.

For the record, tonight's supper was goat shanks SV at 60 C for 78 hrs meat removed and slightly shredded then added to vegetables (swede, carrot,, and fennel) roasted then slow cooked on low with a can of crushed tomatoes. Added the SV jus to the veg and mixed the meat in. Not photogenic but this is one for the meat eaters. The tendons were almost completely gone, the meat tender and very red (personally I'd go a couple of degrees higher but I'm sure many would prefer this temp). Rich. The goat shanks weren't at all gamy but certainly were meaty. I don't think you would mistake them for lamb and would be a good choice for someone who, say, wanted beef+. I don't think you could do better than SV for these shanks.

Blues band name.

You guessed correctly. Let us know how it works for you.

I just tried the method of removing the seeds before roasting and it worked really well.

Dubonnet = Carla Bruni

It won't be the same, but it might be good. Campari will add some sweetness. One way to find out.

Proving his point, I think. I'm not much of a Martini drinker but I think that it is a drink where the enjoyment is very sensitive to environmental variables like the ambiance, the weather, your mood, and probably the phase of the moon. I would at the very least try it again with a good friend or better yet made by a good friend or a qualified professional. It's harder to feel pampered when you are doing the work.

My MIL is visiting so we stocked up on Australian (tawny) port for her to make the visit more relaxing for everyone. I was left alone for supper so it seemed to be a good time to finally try a coffee cocktail. Nice. I'd maybe leave out the sugar next time and/or bump up the brandy a bit. I used Courvoisier so maybe something with a bit more assertiveness might be good to explore. A lighter hand with the nutmeg would have been smart, too.

FWW, isn't your home-made stock less expensive than boxed stock? Seems to me it would be less expensive to waste good stock with a bonus that you might end up with something nice.

Thus, the gin.

Everyone likes gin. Some people just don't know it yet. I would recommend starting with something not too in-your-face juniper. I would start with Beefeater over Tanqueray. Bombay Sapphire may be an ok entry. and then try several cocktails in different categories before you decide if you like it or not. I would suggest a French 75, Tom Colins, Negroni, Gin gin mule. Then splurge on a lime and good tonic for a gin and tonic - sipping it outside as a sundowner.

Is there a reason you used tongue and groove instead of plywood?

Do you concentrate your stock after making it? I do and I can't see how the little bit of volatiles lost during pressure cooking the stock could possibly compare to the amount that must be lost when boiling it down.

A dog's breakfast of an Old fashioned: WT 101 rye, cane syrup, Jerry Thomas bitters, Chris Taylor chocolate bitters. Nice.

You could extract the alcohol from the wood with boiling water and make swish like the Newfoundlanders.

FrogPrincesse announced this MxMo in our previous Mocktail Thread but to save the cocktail blog world from having to wade through it I thought I'd start this thread for our entries (or entry at least). In spite of some skepticism expressed by the eGullet cocktail crowd, I was kind of pumped for this topic. Scott's announcement points out that many classic cocktail books had sections for for non-alcoholic beverages. But in addition to that, many old cookbooks had either sections for cocktails or had alcoholic beverages mixed in with non-alcoholic refreshment. Preparing a good drink was seen as an important skill, booze or no booze. Typical choices for designated driver drinks in bars are often pretty dismal - coke, water, or if you want to live on the edge, orange juice. But in Australia there is another choice - lemon-lime and bitters. What you usually get is a premix from Schweppes or Bundaberg like you can buy at the grocery (You can also get Angostura brand) that is basically lemonade (Sprite to you North Americans) with some bitters added. Still, it has bitters and that has to be worth something. A while ago, I was at a bar in Adelaide and went to get a lemon-lime and bitters for a friend. It was a revelation when the bartender made it using a big bottle of Angostura, a lime, and lemonade. I'm not sure whether it was any better but it was classy. So my MxMo contribution is a variation - Bitter lemon-lime and bitters: Start with a fresh lime: Add a healthy dose of Angostura and Peychauds bitters to an ice filled glass, top with bitter lemon soda and garnish with a lime slice. Bob's your uncle.

Thanks Nick. A couple of differences with what I did. I cranked the temperature up and the time down and used pretty lean meat. This saved time but also seemed to keep from rendering much fat. I didn't try boiling the liquid by itself but there was no protein coagulation as I reduced the wine. I'm guessing that the time/temperature conditions were a factor in this. Certainly the liquid was very much lighter and clearer than in my usual slow cook SV. The higher temperature can only help increase the yield. It would be interesting to do a taste comparison with different times in the SV. My main motivation though was to minimise the fat, simplify the process, and keep from having to wash a fry pan.

Yeah, I should have measured but I would estimate about a half cup of liquid goodness. Then again, I'm cheap and only used 1/2 kilo of meat and the recipe calls for frying up 1.3 kilos. Obviously I didn't get the browning. You are correct that fat can carry flavours and one thing I wonder about is if you could use something like liquid-liquid extraction to get some flavours to go into the oil and from there into the aqueous phase.

The cooking with Modernist Cuisine at Home topic seems to have mostly run its course as many of us have had the book for quite a while. One thing I like a lot about the book is that it presents ideas for variations along with the recipes and presents many variations of ways of achieving similar results. So my motivation for this topic is to have a place to talk about our experiments in modifying the recipes - successful or not. You see I have difficulty following instructions... To start, is serendipity with this post in the sous vide thread asking about using bag juice that came out right as I finished up an experiment with the red wine glaze. The experiment was motivated by a mistake where I made SV short ribs at too high a temperature a while back. The meat was not very good but juice was wonderful. So instead of frying up a bunch of ground beef, I took a half kilo of relatively lean stewing beef and bunged it in the SV at 88 C for an hour. At the end of that time the meat was dry and the bag full of meat juice. The juice was very clear and light in colour with little in the way of 'gunk'. I added it to the wine and veg, started reducing, then strained the veg out and reduced the rest of the way. I skipped pressure cooking the knucklebones (I'm not sure why the recipe has you reduce the wine, then add water to pressure cook the bones, why not cook the bones in the wine then reduce?) To cut to the chase, I was quite happy with the result. I don't agree with the 'fat is flavour' mantra and the only fat in this was the little that rendered out of the meat in the SV. I might try adding a little gelatin for mouth feel and to make the glaze with less reduction. ... and the dog was happy with the dried out meat for his tea-time.

Thank you to Steve for enriching my life. Not only have I learned much here, but I have made friends and I am grateful to him. My thoughts are with his family and with his friends.

Pre-revolution Bacardi, aka Havana Club?