Jaymes

I love those little tea sandwiches they serve....bread, butter, cream cheese, shredded carrots, dash of ginger. Yum.

Trying hard to figure out who would be who regarding the supposed "Fox political bias" in this scenario.

Did y'all know this is the third thread on this one show? Certainly seems to have struck a nerve here, eh?

Wow. Just saw this. Some 2 1/2 years after it was posted. Actually, have made this but quite a few years ago. And all of my recipes are currently packed up so am very fuzzy as to what exactly I did. Probably too late for whatever you were planning, IrishCream, but if anyone out there does have a recipe, might be nice to post it. As I recall, it is very good, and a great accompaniment for meats.

A while back, I posted a few recipes with which I've had success: Several Iranian Recipes

Down south, we make a lot of sun tea. Quicker and easier....heat up a cup of water in the microwave. Dip in a bag of tea. Pour that over ice, and add water to taste. I had a friend that really disliked bitter tea, so she'd heat up two cups of water. Dip the bag briefly into the first cup....said that got out most of the strongest, bitterest part, and then into the second cup. That's what she made her iced tea from. Edited to add: If you make a lot of iced tea, you might want to invest in an Iced Tea Maker.... I've never owned one, but many of my friends find them quite handy.

And rice pudding as well.

Yeah, well, that doesn't mean much to the rest of us. After all, Texas is a whole nother country. But I figgered all y'all might could be fixing to visit us. And so it'd hep all y'alls schedules to know when the show will air.

I'm in Texas, and I think it's airing on Tuesday at 7pm Central. But not sure.

If you get down the coast to the mouth of the Rogue River, that's Gold Beach. I spent several days there last summer. We did: Jerry's Jet Boats, which, on the all-day excursion, includes a wonderful lunch at an old fishing lodge upriver. We ate breakfast every morning at: Indian Creek Cafe & RV Park, which was recommended to us as having the 'best breakfasts in Oregon.' Don't know about that, but we went the first morning, and it was good enough that we went back the next two. We had several excellent meals at Riverview Restaurant, overlooking the Rogue River. Overall, Gold Beach was a great place to visit. And I'd recommend it.

Well, that's certainly true. Having lived in Alaska for several years, I can tell you that I didn't run across any Vegan/Vegetarian Inuit, Inupiat, Eskimos.

So you don't think those bees are flying pots of honey over to the local Freely Given Shoppe?

I had a friend (briefly) that was part of a movement called the "Freely Given." They could only eat things that were "Freely Given." Get it? The theory was that plants feel pain, too....so when you cruelly yank stuff out of the ground, and kill them.....you're hurting the poor things. And they've hooked up electrodes to the plants to prove it. So, according to this theory, beans, corn, nuts, fruits, veggies, which grow and then fall off are fine. As are milk, honey, eggs, all dairy.....discarded snake skins, one supposes...anything that the rest of the earth's creatures "give" to us. Like I said....we were friends only briefly. Pass the pork chops and greens, please.

And so, way down in Louisiana, deep in the swamps of the Mississippi Delta, beneath the Spanish moss, alongside the bayous, some of us eGulleteers are having this discussion: California Vegan in Thibodaux, on Fox Is veganism a viable option only for the wealthy? If you have to scrap just to survive, much less eke out a living, does that necessarily mean that you really have to boil, roast or fry up everything that walks, flies, or swims past? Or could you subsist on things you could cultivate? And would you really have to kill animals to make belts, shoes, billfolds, decorations for the rumpus room? Or could you find easily and readily available substitutes hard by the Bayou Teche? And instead of beef barons and chicken magnates, would we just transfer our hate, scorn and loathing to large corporate bean barons, or corn kings, or watermelon magnates that have cornered the fruit and vegetable markets? What do you think? Veganism -- silly, arrogant, impractical and elitist indulgence for the wealthy? Or viable, healthier, preferable and more moral option for us all?

Sure, cher.... Veganism....Is it only for the rich?

Thanks Jaymes. This sounds really good. Do you know what part of the Middle East it is from?I had occasion about 25-years ago or so to host a delegation of Iranian fighterpilots in my home. They were stationed in the US on a pilot-exchange program between the US and Iranian Air Forces. As I am interested in cooking, when these fellows came for dinner, we'd talk a lot about food. I'd cook for them, and sometimes, they'd cook for us. That particular recipe was from the grandmother to mother of one of them. At any rate, it'd been in their family a long time. So...that'd make it Persian, I believe.

You know, there are so many wonderful thoughts, ideas, recipes in this thread, as well as that other 'Chilled Soups' thread, it'd be a shame if a newcomer stumbled onto one, but missed the other. Any chance of combining them?

I'm happy to hear this. That episode is indeed a two-part rerun. I saw the first part, but missed the conclusion. There actually is another thread here on eGullet from the first go-around. The Cajun family aren't just any ol' Cajuns. They operate swamp tours. And they're involved in hunting and selling such Cajun souvenirs as alligator heads. So Vegan Mom arrives at the Canjun homestead and she's literally SURROUNDED by alligator parts drying in the sun. And when Cajun Mom shows up at militant Vegan mom's house in California, she's brought gifts for the family....alligator jaws. I've been hoping for a rerun, so that I can see how it ends.

Chris.... I've been waiting for someone with more current info to post, because it's been more than fifteen years since I lived in Tucson, but I did spend about a week there last summer and hit some of my old favorites. Arizona-Mex....didn't go to Micha's, which I used to love, or El Charro, which ditto, but I'm sure they're still there and still good. What I did do was to go to Mi Nidito, which was my favorite place for Caldo de Queso, the famous Sonoran cheese soup. They've gussied up Mi Nidito a LOT, so the interior was unrecognizable to me, but that soup was still fabulous. And Poca Cosa started in a small, nondescript building, which has been torn down, but the larger, newer one is still doing a thriving business. The thing to order there is the Poca Cosa "plate," which is a chef's choice, and always good. I also would not go to Tucson without taking a run down to Nogales to eat at La Roca. I always am afraid that the chicken mole won't be as good as I remember it. And I'm always wrong. It's just flat-out wonderful. And I love La Roca. Back to the Caldo de Queso.... Don't know how long you're going to be there, but every single time you eat in a Mexican restaurant, order it. Oftentimes it's not on the menu, but they always have it. Actually, I say "oftentimes it's not on the menu," because it used to not be on the menus. In the ensuing 15 years, it seems finally to have become known by Gringos (which it was not when I was there), and is appearing on menus at last. Edit: Just noticed you said you were going to be in Bisbee. From there, it's a pretty quick hop down to Douglas and Agua Prieta. Didn't go there on this last trip, but the lobby of the Gadsden hotel is definitely worth a visit (take a camera). And Agua Prieta had a small, but terrific restaurant in the "old days."

Ah HA! You've got one, too!

When I grill my butterflied leg of lamb, which is heavily marinated with olive oil, soy sauce, etc., I monitor the fire very closely. I always have a glass of water handy to sprinkle on the coals when they flare up. I never just go off and leave a piece of meat that's been heavily marinated with something flamable. My former husband did the same thing, but with his ever-handy bottle of beer. He said that the beer imparted a better flavor. I couldn't tell any difference and, when it comes to pouring stuff onto coals to calm them down, thought that water was certainly the more cost-effective choice.

There's a fellow in Central Texas that came from Germany a while back to open a restaurant. No matter what he did, he couldn't get his pork to taste the same as back home. He discovered that was because he couldn't get pork here from the same breed of pig that he had been accustomed to. So he imported a breeding pair of pigs. Now he raises his own, feeding them whatever it was they ate in Germany. And the meat is delicious.

Actually, a great many Texas 'cue joints buy their sausage from Elgin. And then they cook them however they prefer. So often you'll hear, "I like the sausage from....this place or that...." but when you ask, they're serving up Elgin sausage.

I'm kinda curious about this. It's always interesting, when reading a review, to know what said reviewer's experience is. So I'm wondering what you expected. Are you familiar with southwestern/Mexican/Texas-style pinto/BBQ/cowboy/chile beans? Because they are NOT gooey lumps of sweetness, like southern-style, or Boston baked beans (not that there's anything wrong with that; I like those, too). They are always what you might call "watery" if you're not familiar with them. You NEVER serve them just scooped onto a plate. They're always served in a bowl and eaten with a spoon so you can slurp up that "smoky and good" flavorful broth. They're more like what you might describe as 'bean soup,' I suppose, if you're not familiar with them. ARE you familiar with them. Is that what you were expecting? Just so happens I've eaten at Southside Market many times, and I think their beans are quite good. They sure do serve a lot of them.

Here's my idea, eGulletarians: A toque-clad pig is driving a Cadillac convertible with a Weber grill perched on the seat next to him. A cartoon balloon announces, "Ah wouldn't miss this!" For the back, we show the porcine-piloted Caddy from the back. A placard attached to the window declares: "North Cackalacky or Bust!" Could somebody put this into a graphic? Thanks one-and-all! I think that's a cute idea, but I can't do graphics, either. Although I can see your pig in the Cadillac. Maybe the car should be pink, and have longhorns attached to the front grill. Like the pig thinks he's gonna be cooking beef! But the joke's on him. heheheh. And of course, he'd be waving some tongs or fork or other BBQ tool. And on the back view, a pig's tail spiraling out, and the eGullet.org could be on the license plate. Like your vision; sorry I can't help bring it to life.