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[Florida Jim]

2004 Ocone, Falanghina Taburno:

Correct, elements of sweet gum on the nose and palate, good complexity but falls short of being complete. Pleasant and interesting but little else. Diane says odd – I agree.

1998 Mommessin, Clos de Tart:

Young, disjointed, oaky but, curiously, not unappealing; its Burgundy, it’s pretty much identifiable as Morey and then . . . well, then everything sort of goes ca-flooey. Either this needs time in the cellar or it needs to be sold off to others – I can’t tell which.

1999 Lafrage, Volnay Vendage Sélectionées:

This on the other hand, is integrated, focused, all about cherry pit fruit and so damn expressive it’s hard to explain in words – utterly Volnay and really showing well although in no danger of heading south. A lovely and fascinating wine.

Best, Jim

[Craig Camp]

2004 Ocone, Falanghina Taburno:

Correct, elements of sweet gum on the nose and palate, good complexity but falls short of being complete. Pleasant and interesting but little else. Diane says odd – I agree.

1998 Mommessin, Clos de Tart:

Young, disjointed, oaky but, curiously, not unappealing; its Burgundy, it’s pretty much identifiable as Morey and then . . . well, then everything sort of goes ca-flooey. Either this needs time in the cellar or it needs to be sold off to others – I can’t tell which.

1999 Lafrage, Volnay Vendage Sélectionées:

This on the other hand, is integrated, focused, all about cherry pit fruit and so damn expressive it’s hard to explain in words – utterly Volnay and really showing well although in no danger of heading south. A lovely and fascinating wine.

Best, Jim

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I get that cherry pit note in good pinot too, also peach pit in some whites. For me it is a kind of fruity-minerality that is hard to describe to others. Is this also what you mean by pits?

[Florida Jim]

Is this also what you mean by pits?

I would think so but, as you say, its a pretty ambiguous description.

Best, Jim