2nd try at Bagels - this time cinnamon raisin bagels!
I think our yeast needs to be replaced - as they're rather flat. I proofed them in my steam oven for longer then listed - took forever to get to finger test working, so I think it's just tired old yeast.
They did float in Lye bath this time - so that tells me my first attempt needed to proof longer (and 14 hours in the fridge wasn't enough time)
I used up the prior instant yeast - so I was working on the other container we had (which my wife had been using to make bread pre MB)
They have the crumb of a bagel and the taste of cinnamon raisin so bagel attempt number 2 was mostly successful