Late Dinner in Paris

[robert brown]

I will be returning to Paris late from a day trip and will need a restaurant that serves after 10:00 PM. Who knows of any that serves respectable food?

[MartyL]

I'm pretty sure Chez Georges is open late. The only trouble is that by that hour it will be pretty smoky in there.

[cabrales]

Guy Savoy has reservations for at least 10:15, and sometimes for 10:30.

Michelin has a section (at least in the 2001 edition) entitled "Pour Souper apres le spectacle" (for dinner after the show) which provides restaurants with hours of indicated latest arrival by the diner -- included are L'Etoile (is this a Guy Savoy affiliate???), and La Regelade (this would be a good choice, and the indicated hour of midnight is consistent with reports of three seatings for dinner).

Also, if La Regelade is not centrally located enough, Chez Denise (good pied de cochon and Charolais beef) and La Maison d'Aubrac. The latter is a decent (not very good) tartare of beef from Aubrac and a good aligote, as previously mentioned in other threads. Also, a decent entrecote on said beef and good prices on La Turque from Guigal (relative to other places, that is). I'd have to say I prefer Charolais to Aubrac beef, even based on a sampling of the latter at Bras. La Masion d'Aubrac can be reasonably priced if one does not get tempted by the very good wine list there. Ovearll, Chez Denise or La Regelade would be my recommendation.

There are many places in the "Old" Les Halles area, including Pied de Cochon (which is so-so -- pied de cochon at Chez Denise is much better) and its adjacent restaurants.

I like being in Paris. Even a modest bowl of onion soup seems to taste better when taken in Paris.

[magnolia]

Where will you be coming into Paris? You might want to focus on a neighbourhood within a short commute of your entry point... .minimise useless travel time, maximise useful eating time :-) For example I have come into Gare du Nord at around that time and know that Chez Michel on rue de Belzunce serves late. Ditto Chez Catherine which is sort of near Gare St Lazare. Neither is high table but both are very good - and fun. If you are coming into Gare Montparnasse, try Le Ciel de Paris - top of Tour Montparnasse. I was extremely impressed by the food and the view cannot be beat, particularly at night.

[robert brown]

Magnolia, I'll be coming in from Orly. La Regalade is an obvious choice in that situation, but I booked for lunch the next day. Perhaps I will change it. Le Severo, also in the 14th, sounds good, but I don't know if it serves late. Anyone know it?

[Beachfan]

Not sure about weekdays, but on Saturday night, Le Dome was open late. I arrived at about 10pm (late for a 9:15 reservation), and was seated about 10:30. People were still arriving at 11:30

[magnolia]

Magnolia, I'll be coming in from Orly. La Regalade is an obvius choice in that situation, but I booked for lunch the next day. Perhaps I will change it. Le Severo, also in the 14th, sounds good, but I don't know if it serves late. Anyone know it?

Wow, you've stumped me. I haven't flown to Paris since they launched the the Eurostar, so I wouldn't have even guessed the 14th was near Orly.

Still as you may know, Regalade is especially good late at night !

I will ask around and see if anyone knows le Severo.

You know. you are not SO far from the 15th, a handful of good places there...I'm thinking of Stephane Martin on rue des Entrepreneurs and a Corsican place - not particularly 'gourmet' but very convivial and always packed - the facade is purple but the name escapes me, but I am sure I have their card somewhere...Will tomorrow be too late for this info?

[robert brown]

Tomorrow is fine. Im not leaving for almost six weeks, but would like to nail down reservations. Thanks so much. Do people call you Maggie?

[Louisa Chu]

a Corsican place - not particularly 'gourmet' but very convivial and always packed - the facade is purple but the name escapes me

Hey magnolia!

Le Beau Violet

92 RUE DES ENTREPRENEURS

75015 PARIS

Here's the photo link on Les Pages Jaunes.

Le Beau Violet - photo/address

[Bux]

I was going to suggest la Regalade. Of course, when considering convenience and location, will you have luggage and where are you staying. the 14th may be closest to Orly by taxi, but it you're carrying lots of baggage and staying in the 17th, it's another story.

My late night suggestions are much like my Sunday suggestions--a good old brasserie and simple food or oysters. Let others knock the Flo group, but they have at least preserved the decor. Vaudeville with it's terrific marble art deco interior serves until one, as does as does the new and very modern les Grandes Marches. As a last resort at the last minute, we tried the latter with some family on a Sunday a while back and found the food quite fine although more upscale contemporary restaurant style than brasserie style. I found the interiors quite attractive as well, although the ground floor was closed for renovations. Le Dome in the 14th would be another suggestion. Conveninece might make the difference to me between those places.

[cabrales]

As background, the Paris tourist office has a list of restaurants open past midnight:

http://www.paris-touristoffice.com/cgi-bin...rg/selectheberg

(Please choose "Cafe/Restaurants" selection on the left hand side, etc.)

[magnolia]

Tomorrow is fine. Im not leaving for almost six weeks, but would like to nail down reservations. Thanks so much. Do people call you Maggie?

Loufood beat me to it ! Yes, it's Le Beau Violet. Good place but as mentioned, by no means 'gourmet' (no stars, just good, hearty food). They take last orders at 23h00 (11PM)

01 45 78 93 44

Stephane Martin is a bit more 'upmarket' - more refined. 67 rue des Entrepreneurs, 01 45 79 03 31. They take last orders between 22h30-23h00 (10h30 - 11PM)

And yes - Maggie's my 'offscreen' name. Magnolia is my 'nom de keyboard', I guess. A nickname from a long-ago employer.

[menton1]

The latest on this subject from Expatica.com, a VERY good web site. All open until at least 1:30AM, and Au Pied au Cochon until 6AM!! Bonne nuit!!

Au Pied du Cochon: 6 rue Coquillière, 75001

Chez Denise: 5, rue des Prouvaires, 75001

L'Ecluse: 15, Place de la Madeleine, 75008

La Coupole: 102, boulevard du Montparnasse, 75014

Le Select: 99, boulevard du Montparnasse, 75014

Korova: 33, rue Marbeuf 75008 Paris

Le Dépanneur: 27, rue Fontaine, 75009 Paris

[fresh_a]

I like Balzar, L'Avenue, Cafe Marly, Le Rival for a late drink, Mathis Bar...

[Bux]

Korova is gone, is it not?

[menton1]

Korova is gone, is it not?

Well, I got the list right from the Expatica website. A really great site, Expatica Franceand this is in the current "Eating & Drinking" section. Talks all about the celebrities that frequent the place. Some great news there about all the "Grèves" going on now!

[Bux]

Here's one post reporting on the demise of Korova.

Excerpt from the newly-published Paris Sweets by Dorie Greenspan:

"Korova was the name of the milk bar in Stanley Kubrick's classic film, A Clockwork Orange. It was also the name of a restaurant off the Champs-Elysees for which Pierre Herme created these cookies. The restaurant is gone, but the cookies are still a specialty at Pierre's patisserie"

Seems that Ms. Greenspan knew well ahead that Korova would be closing.

[fresh_a]

Well, I guess the EXPATICA website can't be that great, if they don't know that KOROVA closed down two years ago...

Edited May 23, 2003 by fresh_a (log)

[Bux]

Unfortunately many web sites are not so different from print media. An article gets published with up to date information and then sits on the site forever. It would really be great if everything on the web were dated. Information about restaurants is short lived in usefulness. Information about trendy restaurants has an even shorter shelf life.

[menton1]

Well, I guess the EXPATICA website can't be that great, if they don't know that KOROVA closed down two years ago...

Oh well, they do have alot of good articles about lifestyle, entertainment, and assimilation issues-- check it out!!

[Bux]

Well, I guess the EXPATICA website can't be that great, if they don't know that KOROVA closed down two years ago...

Oh well, they do have alot of good articles about lifestyle, entertainment, and assimilation issues-- check it out!!

In all fairness, it was less than a year ago that Korova closed down. My point was only that topical articles on a web site are no different than those in print. The reader always has to separate those things that are likely to remain useful and those things which are timely.

[fresh_a]

I'm sure they've been closed longer than that.. I'll check the exact date

[Bux]

I could swear they opened just over two years ago. At any rate I swear more liberally than I would bet the farm.

Lot's of web sites still offer reviews as if it's the hottest new restaurant. I suspect that's an indication of how much of the web is no more up to date than old print media. Worse yet, few of those sites give a review or listing date. The earliest dated site review I find is from 2001. I see that Update for Frommer's Paris 2003 offers this information: "Finally, another stylishly hip place is Korova, 33 rue Marbeuf, 8th arr. (tel. 01-53-89-93-93), recognized for its international cuisine. It's like a private club with Zen simplicity. One of its owners Fréderick Grasser Hermé is known in France for her "shocking" cookbooks. Make up your own mind after you've tried her chicken cooked with Coca-Cola." How out of date can Frommer be?