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@blue_dolphin I saw the Red the other day . but int bit. Ill give it a try. I usually tick w old favorites.Ill branch out nd look for the garden secrets.

@MaryIsobel I do remember making RCS I might have been 8 or so the concoction was very sticky. and hen cut into squares so good. by the time we got to the last square , days later not so much. learned a lot from the experience though.

the pro oven looks like a buffed up CSO and non steam Ive seen the second configuration in the past @ BB&B in the distant past. guessing $ 349 no meals would be the CSO clone-rice. if you lived on take out , might be an option Looked at the TJ's offerings : most would cook in a CSO with just temp and time settings some in an AF w temp and time.

@MetsFan5 thank you for your detailed report . I had not thought about the WiFi , which makes sense for the variable cooking cycle. does the oven get instructions over your phone while cooking ? or does the oven gets its instructions once , via your phone app after you scan ? its very interesting that other vendors , esp TJ's have meals that use the bar-code system and WiFi. Ill have to ask @ Tj's net time Im there ( wrote that down on my Tj list ) what most important is that its more or less also a CSO for manual use. I would be interested in seeing the cooking instruction for other meals if you have the time. I don't know what the deep sales prices are but if its also a manual CSO might be worth it for some just for that and an occasion Tj's ( or other While Im Here ) meal. thank you for sharing your experience.

@MetsFan5 thank you for that. So , if one has this oven , one can just use it as a CSO. very interesting.

I looked up Quinona in https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Rice-Cooker-Cookbook-Porridges/dp/1558326677/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1RJCKNQEVJBS3&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.x0oW9iOlbcP1D8Uv_StV1C5biRiCic8Vst6DMOSjslqwa770_Q24TuGeSyUbK1ccsFCh470NeFVlEArX5JgQ7gTTliEXIq8rNMDN98w3C7VzuoPSbt7mhAamQS7UF52bvFjEt5NAQssj9ZcX1Fz5w3nQ3y6N33ZwmvLGxEu3_t3KORb3tQKgupmp5OrsoCqaj35kp0L7dp3NaSbdjIWsKlgw6japkYEvlAo8d4P2cB0.YETe7x3bYOSpBrTaDCjNfVZQgv3Y75pzH7UYJCcn_N0&dib_tag=se&keywords=ultimate+rice+cooker&qid=1712363079&s=books&sprefix=untimate+rice+cooker%2Cstripbooks%2C67&sr=1-1 for a fuzzy cooker : brown rice cycle 1.5 cups Q 2 C water or Ck Stock 1/4 tsp salt. the Rx also says works fine in On/Off cooker .

indeed does the oven work manually ?

@MetsFan5 how did the meal taste ? would you buy this again ? in terms of the oven itself the scan feature doesn't seem to save you much effort the meal kit might say cook in the CSO for X minutes at XYZ F thank you for sharing your experience and taking us step by step through the oven's us and the Tovela meal kits. I was under the impression that the ' smart ' feature was a unique oven cycle , custom tailored for each kit . but I might be missing something, for sure.

$ 1.79 for eggs is ancient history . very ancient history. I haven't purchased eggs for about a week. high 2 dollar range ? I didnt look. Market Basket brand white large. for sure less than 3 $$

@MetsFan5 thank you for the above what do you do to get your meal on your plate? I thought you got an item delivered. it was scanned by the Instrument ( the oven ) you then placed it in the oven and pushed start. this looks like a ' meal kit " I didn't wish to imply anything one way or another by the ingredients. thank you for your continued reporting.

@MetsFan5 excellent source of at least two of the major food groups salt and sugar . its working on the third : Fat.

@weinoo more than rotuts.

Religious and Cultural ( a bit different ) food taboo's or traditions rarely stand up to experimental scrutiny . sticking to fish : Scales : OK No Scales : not OK enter the Shark Steak . fish w no scales : https://www.quora.com/Which-fish-do-not-have-scales swordfish has scales,but : and if the issue is kosher , there seem to be different ' levels ' of kosher ie https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/ask-the-expert-kosher-symbols/

@Dave the Cook excellent post . thank you. TJ's FT's are excellent in the CSO , w no flipping. if you have an AF https://forums.egullet.org/topic/143952-the-air-fryer-topic/page/37/ they get crispy , to any degree of crispiness you desire no flipping and stay moist . they stay moist in the CSO because it is a sealed oven. they stay moist in an air fryer ( 400 F ) because you get to your desired crispy level in 12 minutes +/- if you want to move your FT;s to a different dimension , ( not necessarily better , but different ) try the fish nuggets . CSO or AF you will ge a crispiness ( any level ) that is delicate and the fish , base on it more compact geometry , moister. both ae excellent. faster min the AF , w different inner characteristics.

@MetsFan5 Excellent . im also interested if the oven will work as a manual steam oven AKA a CSO.

@blue_dolphin is the ' Crunchy ' genre the shallots and garlic addition ? than they sprout out from there ?

for got to mention : bananas here ( inorganic ) 23 cents //lbs.

@Duvel another point along similar lines : pigs do not sweat . https://extension.psu.edu/keeping-pigs-cool-in-the-summer-heat thus it become difficult to raise them in hot environments there has to be water source. thus providing one for pigs makes them expensive.

@ Tj's this AM : I was looking for the Chili crunch or crunchy or ... and the only item that was close was crunchy chili corn or some such . is that Tj's version of chili oil w chili and some sort of crunch factor ( garlic ? shallots ? )

there is probably a reason for that over all but is , in n ew condition , it can be uses as a CSO clone might be worth it for the purpose at an attractive price. @MetsFan5 im curious about the salt content on the order of mg / meal , thanks

@BeeZee squirrels love tomatoes. back in my Tomato Days , I had three rows , each containing 8 plants. when ripe , squirrels would climb up the tomato's individual enclose , grab nice one ave a chomp or two discard the rest ( 99 % ) then if feeling peckish later , grab another one , rather than the initial one but I had a zillion tomatoes from my efforts , so it didn't matter. if squirrels frequent your deck , they will sample your cherries. good lick !

EoR is improved for SV w slivers of fresh garlic generously inserted here and there before bagging. but , there has to be a super duper sale , or sn empty meat counter to put this kind of effort into its prep. the only reason this cut exists ' solo ' is to dupe the poorly informed into thinking it might be tenderloin

this showed up in college , next to a toaster where you might toast ordinary american sliced bread. Seasonally . no explanation . and the food was quite decent in those days , and you could go back for seconds etc I tried it as vehicle for about 1/2 " of butter or more , evenly distributed over a piece it worked well enough for that . as @haresfur has suggessted , similar a Carr cracker . but there was no other cracker option for the butter. you could eat the butter ( those single pat thing-is ) neat of course. the box stayed there for days and days , hardly touched . this suggests it was was never removed to any dorm room for a 10 PM ' pick me up ' Q.E.D. as @weinoo has suggested : Vogue ? really ? you can document that ?

@weinoo ''' it's probably cheaper! '' confirming my suspicion I don't get out much ( by personal choice ) P.S.: its my understanding Anonymous did read the book and was impressed.

@Paul Bacino nice. pleased to see the nutmeg in the filling I always try to remember the small amount of freshly grated nutmeg in items ' white : mashed potatoes , bechamel , etc. just enough to notice something extra is there