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@JeanneCake get this right now : https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0BXZ72MTM/egulletsociety-20?th=1 the price has dropped ! it has an insert for steaming : when that comes out of the Birthday Box : you say : ' Look at this : you're broccoli will love it !

@FauxPas what thoughtful gifts . I hope you can plant that rooted cutting.

@JeanneCake Id get the 5 cup Induction . there is some room after cooking 2 cups of rice , to add ' mix-ins ' after you fluff up the rice. have a 10 cup fuzzy , and used to use it frequently when taking a ' dish ' to a pot-luck 2 - 3 cups rice , and plenty of mix-ins to make ' Not Fried Rice ' I got the 3 cup induction , as the rice was just for me , MC is no fan , and I love the feel of the bowl that cooks the rice vs a plain fuzzy. its thicker. unless you have a Trust-Fund , or want to go with Pressure . get the 5 cup , dome or flat top , induction . you will love it.

Ive got GABA on my Induction . it just soaks the rice , in this case the GABA comes from brown , not white , rice to get that GABA in an older machine , just soak the brown rice , 30 +++ minutes , then cook on Brown. the result is a fairly soft BR.

@Duvel is Ka-Va-Lan Japanese ? googleing Kavalan turns up taiwanese Whisky .

thanks to @weinoo 's nudge I was finally able to find and D/L'd a pressure RC manual here are the various times :

so Id say , max-ish , 15 minutes for the soak . thanks

those eG'ers blessed w the pressure or micron version w the Umami selection : how long does the umami cook last ? the regular white rice cook last ? ie the difference ? that would be the soaking time ? thanks.

@ElsieD a very thoughtful thing to do . real bagels from a high end bagel place can ver very very nice.

Interesting. does the battery charge while the unit is plugged in ? and also while making rice ? thus it might last longer w proper charging cycles ?

I have one last question , for now at least : Zo has two ( made in Japan ) styles : the dome and handle ( a tan color ) and a flat top ( black ) the fat is newer , and generally cost a bit more over the Dome : here 478 dome vs 577 flat . for pressure RC's but not in the case of the 5C induction : dome $ 360 flat $ 332 . if you understand the price differences , as dollars , ie more $$ might get you , at least a useful gain . Id like to hear from you here.

@DesertTinker many thanks for that ref. and as I though , just like @KennethT ( thank you ! ) people who eat more rice than I , pre-soak . then decided on new 5 Cup , based on using the extra space in the cooker ( after cooking ) for mix-ins , when making Not-Fried-Rice .

still trying to decided on ' umami rice ' : https://www.reddit.com/r/AskCulinary/comments/24yvim/how_do_rice_cookers_with_umami_settings_work/ unfortunately I can't get to reddit . but I suspect the link is info from manufacturers sites , thus , a bit suspect . it seems some Zo RC's have this setting , inc the pressure $$$ ones. the setting takes longer , and include a water-soak stage . that' I can do manually Zo also makes a Micron Zo : https://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-NL-GAC10-Cooker-5-5-Cup-Metallic/dp/B08ZHRMGJ2?th=1 as I understand it , Micron Zo's are manufactured in China , vs Zo's made in Japan. so , unless I hear differently from the eG Ricer's its mostly hype , but not 100 % : 80 - 85 % seem about right ? Ill manually soak my next batch of rice and see if I can tell any difference.

My Bad : on further investigations , the Umami button is only on Zo pressure induction machines . those cost more than my InDoorSmoker !

@Maison Rustique in my area , a Meat Loaf mix is frequently mentioned in the various flyers. Ive never asked what 's in the mixture , its supposed to be beef // pork // veal . its a commercial brand , mixed elsewhere . if it has veal , wonder where that comes from veal has pretty much disappeared from meat counters in my area . true , I dont look very hard for it , as veal USA is in no way similar to veal EU.

@weinoo which model ? so , what exactly is different w the umami setting ? ' porridge ' is simply a slow cooking setting . probably no different than steel cut oatmeal after all , way way way back when , I got the 10 C fuzzy for cooking steel cut oats w milk button : porridge.

@JoNorvelleWalker I D/L'd the three manuals : 3 cup induction , the one I have , 5 cup induction , and 5 cup pressure . here are images of the control panel , w instructions : 3 Cup Induction 5 cup induction 5 cup pressure . on the 5 C pressure , I dont see an Umami Am I missing something ? clearly there is a different interface , but all the choices on the 5 C can be done on the 3 C : Porridge is the selection for steel cut oatmeal like to hear more about the umami , as someone has a birthday coming up . and Amazon would have to drop the price > $ 10 as it had a lo0wer price just the other day . Umami , here I come , maybe. Wait ! it also have a self standing rice scoop !

@TdeV yours cooks by pressure and induction. pressure feature is a big reason for the cost increase , and then some extra padding for the look. all these machines work very very well . I like rice , and aside for innate taste differences ( basmati vs short grain , etc ) I doubt i could taste the differences between properly used machines . I do like the thicker ' pot ' in the induction versions . which means Id like the thicker ' pot ' in the 5.5 size !

@TdeV for me , I dont see adding pressure to a rice cooker as I have several iPots. so , induction , ' straight-up '

@Dr. Teeth You are welcome. Ill confess : I was looking into the difference for two reasons : Im always a bit curious as the differences in similar ' high end ' items and i was pleased it just seems to be the flat top , and no other significant difference. so why the , now $ 20 difference FlatTop droppeds a bit on amazon but also , I really enjoy the induction 3 C so why not a 5.5 C induction ? as I have a very fine plain fuzzy 10 C , my keenness for the 5.5 C fortunately pass for now .

@gfweb you got me google-ing : https://www.google.com/search?q=can+I+turn+off+the+song+on+my+rice+cooker&oq=can+I+turn+off+the+song+on+my+rice+cooker&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160l2j33i299.10019j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:e7574cca,vid:fHJ3D8JnmzQ,st:0 no more twinkle - twinkle . I would not mind other songs : Id like Wagner : " The Ride of the Valkyries " von Karajan . DGG

thanks for your insight. on my 3 C domed induction , the cord is removable. perhaps that changed ? but the key is that neither of you can find significant difference in function , except their appearance. the flat top model is significantly more expensive , $ 30 for the flat top. day to day Amazon , not on sale price.

Ive noticed that Zojirushi currently , and I think for some time has two styles of induction rice cookers : Flat Top : Zojirushi NW-QAC10 5.5-Cup Capacity Flat-Top Induction Cooker and Warmer with Custom Cooking Pan, Double Non-Stick Coating for Easy Clean-Up (Black) (eG-friendly Amazon.com link) and more traditional , dome topped : Zojirushi NP-HCC10XH Induction Heating System Rice Cooker and Warmer, 1 L, Stainless Dark Gray (eG-friendly Amazon.com link) I have the 3 cup dome induction, and its a pleasure to use. I also have a 10 cup , older , Fuzzy , that produces very excellent rice. Im fairly sure , w accurate , local measurements , and good quality rice , I might not be able to tell the difference on my plate . but the newer one , has a very wonderfull feel to it. my question , to R.C. cognescenti : other an appearance , what's the difference ? the only thing I see is that the flat top comes w a steamer tray .

my local Tj's , via circular , is pushing Sugar Sweet melon. Ill try one should I remember. I grew up in California, melons , in season were plentiful , and perfectly ripe if you know what you were doing. then came Gala , originally from Israel . then planted locally. finest melon Ive ever had .

@TdeV you could SV that chicken. but w a brine like that , it will taste better roasted.