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I'm Eastern PA and and give pretty much equal emphasis to Thanks- giving. Unlike the words inSURance and umBRELla, which my Texan friends pronounce INsurance and UMbrella

And B.Flay consistently mispronouncing chipotle. And for that matter Bret Favre, who cannot even pronounce his own name.

You were better off buying vinegar powder. Maltodextrin + vinegar isnt very strong in flavor. I find you end up tasting the maltodextrin more then the flavor your trying to impart. Bacon grease + maltodextrin is a perfect example. I had to use so much maltodextrin to make a dry powder that all i tasted was a funky sweet greasy powder. ew

It'd be nice to have a measure of influence in order to separate the famous/popular from the truly influential. Perhaps ...# of imitators...# famous chefs who trained under him/her...

What city?

That's an issue with everything in the freezer, though.

Huh. I'm sort of anti-soup. Old guys at the racetrack eat soup. I still have teeth. Soup is wet. If soup is thick...eg bisque...or laden w stuff like french onion...it might be ok.

OK. I have obtained a quantity of maltodextrin. Looking at various websites, the flavored maltodextrin products seem pretty chunky...not the dry powder that one might spread over a potato chip...even after pushed thru a tamis. Any ideas how to make the oil-impregnated maltoD into a fine powder?

What ratio of Trisol to flour did you use?

Like drinking six glasses of water a day etc.

"Official" guidelines are often the product of committees and are a compromise (as opposed to something generally agreed-upon by the committee). One crackpot outlier in the group can have outsized, and perhaps incorrect, effect on the product. I have witnessed this sort of thing. That's why critical thought shouldn't be suspended simply because an official group has a position. Their position is often wrong, or ill-considered. I wouldn't ignore it, but I wouldn't say its the final word on a subject either. So far we've heard that some authorities don't like freezing garlic in a vacuum, but there's no explanation from them as to how they know its a bad thing. Counter to this is the pretty well-documented fact that the botulism bacillus doesn't grow at below freezing temps.

Sounds safe to me. Do you use the garlic or the vinegar?

I know; forgetting about the pizzas he was one of the earliest proponents of fusion stuff. True enough.

LOL The discussion has gone far past this eminently sensible suggestion.

The issue with vacuum is that the bug is an anaerobe and won't grow in the presence of much oxygen. So vacuum might help it grow by removing O2. I've done a pub med search and cannot find a paper saying that this bug grows below freezing, vacuum or not.

This from foodsafety.gov re sources for botulism... http://www.foodsafety.gov/poisoning/causes/bacteriaviruses/botulism/ Infants: Honey, home-canned vegetables and fruits, corn syrupChildren and adults: Home-canned foods with a low acid content, improperly canned commercial foods, home-canned or fermented fish, herb-infused oils, baked potatoes in aluminum foil, cheese sauce, bottled garlic, foods held warm for extended periods of time

It is hard to imagine that this is a realistic worry, USDA warning or not. There must be some special situation that USDA is referring to. For all practical purposes nothing grows at 0F. We vacuum pack and freeze raw meat and fish all the time with no acidity and no worry.

If you freeze it there's no problem with growing anything including botulism.

I think Wolfgang was pretty influential. He spawned a whole generation of pizzas. Don't overlook the import of Jean-Louis Palladin; there's a great story about him in the current Food Arts. FWIW, Bourdain has probably influenced more kids to go into the biz than any other chef in recent memory. Jacques, Julia, James, Michel Guerard, Richard Olney, Jeremiah Tower. It might be heresy, but as great a personality and teacher as Pepin is, I can't see any result of his influence. He's the master of an out-of-fashion cuisine. Puck, unfortunately, is influential and spawned all those Cali pizzas. An abomination to put pineapple on pizza.

Top chefs need not be influential. Innovators and market leaders are two different groups. For example Waters and Keller had more influence than Puck, but Puck made far more money.

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exactly. SV or boiled...same rules once the bag is opened

A few recent dinners, heavy on the comfort food in this frigging blizzard Steamed salmon, mushroom risotto, bok choi Pork potstickers in the pan and on plate French Onion Soup, served with a baguette Bratwurst, mash, braised spiced cabbage

Not being certified "food safe" does not equal "dangerous"

One cavaet...The SVd meat will be as sterile as the least sterile thing its mixed with in the final dish. eg a chicken salad made with nuts or uncooked veg or fruit will effectively lose the safety factor of pasteurization . I wouldn't leave that out warm.