paulraphael

I asked Cargill, the overlords that make DC salt, how to be sure I'm getting the actual kosher salt and not the new imposter version. They write: We have updated our packaging but the product inside the box has not changed. We are really excited about our new brand Diamond Crystal Salt Co. and the new look for our favorite Diamond Crystal Kosher salt packaging. So, we are all imagining that there's anything wrong with our salt, and furthermore, we should all be really excited about the new packaging. Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.

Mine have that little raised line also. I'll take a closer look at my pan. Surprising that teflon could ever scratch steel.

I was worried about this, but the stirrers I'm using don't leave any marks. They're standard lab things, shape like pills and covered with teflon. What were you using?

After a couple of years of shopping and foot-dragging, I got a lab hotplate with magnetic stirrer. The main use will be pasteurizing ice cream, which for various reasons I like to do at a moderate temperature for a long time (usually 30 minutes). I've been doing this sous-vide for many years now, which is imperfect; there's no simple way to know the actual temperature of a blob of thick liquid in a bag. It's also a little cumbersome, and you waste a lot of plastic. I do like that a sous-vide bag is sealed, to keep in any aromatics. The most challenging part of moving to a hot plate was finding a lid. My old stainless-lined copper saucepan is a perfect vessel—non magnetic, so it will let the stirring rod spin. But my only lid for it is an ancient Calphalon one, which I don't want to drill for the temperature probe, and which i can't find any more of online. These French copper pans are non-standard sizes. And I'm not getting a 2nd mortgage to buy a Mauviel copper lid, just to drill a hole in it. Restaurant supply store to the rescue. I brought my measurements and a tape, and just dug through everything. This Chinese glass lid was so close I was afraid it would be too tight. It actually fits like it was made for the pan. It has a little metal-rimmed vent hole that's exactly the right size for the probe. Score! Only $10. The lab hotplate works well. It's a cheap Chinese model that cost $180 on Amazon (the serious ones that they use in serious labs cost many times this). It feels solidly built and all the controls are intuitive (except for the programming features, which I'll pretend don't exist). The only shortcoming is the power. It's not listed anywhere but I'm guessing it's just a few hundred watts. Great for holding a big pot of stuff at temperature, but too weak to get it there in a reasonable time. So I start out on the stove on high heat and move to the hotplate when it gets within a degree or so. The stirring motor / magnet is also not very powerful. It struggles to get a strong vortex in 1kg of ice cream mix. This may be because I've been using supermarket cream that has added gums—my mixes have been more viscous than usual. When I get a better source this may stop being a problem. Nevertheless, the company says this hotplate has a 5 liter capacity, which seems hugely optimistic. It's adequate for my purposes. I'm also looking forward to keeping things warm with it at dinner parties. [Edited to add:] This thing is forcing me to be disciplined about adding a straining step. I really don't want to serve—or blend—a magnetic stirring rod.

It looks like a cool idea. How powerful is it? What's the stirring mechanism you're proposing? I just bought one of these, at the upper end of the price range you mention. On the plus side, it has a magnetic stirrer, which is important for my purposes (pasteurizing ice cream). It lets it cook with no chance of scorching or unevenness, and minimal evaporation. And it's very precise. On the minus side, it's probably not repairable, and it's underpowered. Wattage isn't listed anywhere, but I'm guessing it's around 200W or so. I bring a pot up to temperature on the stove and use the hot plate to hold it for 30 minutes or so.

That looks great. Would you consider it a sherbet, since it's got milk? Is cultured skim milk a common product in your corner of the world? I haven't encountered it. And what does "hot" signify in the inulin?

I wrote to Diamond Crystal, and while they refused to acknowledge that they've lost their marbles, they did send me a coupon for a free box of salt. Just have to remember which one to look for.

6:11 is right, if you can be sure the mix is that hot all the way through. If you're doing anything commercial, you still need to check with the local health whoevers. The rules aren't always based on the best science. There are benefits besides safety to holding at temperature longer, or also using a higher temperature. To get the milk proteins working for you.

I looked at those, but they seem like they'd be harder to clean out and would lead to more waste. With a beaker or pan, you can easily scrape out the sides with a spatula. Ice cream is pretty viscous.

Interesting that you're getting so much overrun that it's filling up the bowl. My experience is with the old version of the attachment, but I assume the size is similar. I typically got about 20% overrun, sometimes a little more. Nothing that would fill the bowl. Are you getting that volume with the polysorbate 80? Also, is there such thing as a lid / stopper for a beaker like that, preferable already with a hole for a temperature probe? I only see them for thin-necked flasks.

They do have one machine with a fairly powerful compressor (might only be sold by Williams Sonoma ... it's the one with the metal dasher). Its performance is going to be held back by the removable bowl. And I'm pretty sure that all the Whynter machines have a warranty that's voided if you use them commercially, which is one clue (I checked this when looking for all the semi-pro options). Probably a nice machine, but getting into the Musso price range.

I've been using the Nemox Gelato Chef 5L for a couple of weeks now. A few batches, a few measurements. Just wrote an initial review. TL;DR: I'm keeping it!

I've tried it both ways and didn't get any salt or alcohol in the ice cream. But it may not matter ... I'm guessing I'll use it just with the fixed bowl. One advantage of alcohol is there's no real added cleanup. Just wipe it out and let it evaporate. Brine needs to be cleaned completely because of corrosion risk. But alcohol does add about 50 cents worth of cheap vodka to the cost of every batch.

It's got a fixed and removable bowl. Your choice. The removable one fits inside the fixed one, with a couple of ounces of conductive liquid poured in first (brine or alcohol). The stainless dasher has interchangeable plastic scraper blades; you swap blades when switching bowls, so the dasher always makes solid contact with the bowl. My first 2 batches were with the removable bowl; I think the performance compromises may not be worth any added convenience. I'll try the fixed bowl next. It typically goes for $2K. The distributor generously gave it to me for wholesale cost. These machines have little exposure in the US, and I told them I planned to write about it. Based on research, I'd probably have still bought bought at full price. But maybe not right now, and definitely not as cheerfully. I'll have much more to add after putting it to work a few more times.

I'll look out for this box, thanks. In the mean time I wrote an annoyed email to the company. Old man shakes fist at clouds. Less sodium ... maybe per teaspoon? Since there's also less salt?