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Michelin 2007

tony h

By tony h
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tony h

tony h

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Can't quite believe we're part way through January & no one has started the annual guess fest.

So - who's up, who's down?

ravelda

ravelda

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Ok, here are my predictions:

Petrus up to 2*

Tom Aikens up to 2*

La Noisette 1*

La Tompette a possible 1* (although I hope not as I don;t feel it is worth it)

Le Champignion Sauvage up to 3* (it certainly deserves it)

Possible 1* for Pearl

Star or Bibe Gourmand for Arbutus

Possible star for the Wolseley

Star for L'atelier du Joel Robuchon

Probably way off the mark, but ther you go! Am guessing it is too early for St.Alban and Scotts, but maybe next year?!

If a man makes a statement and a woman is not around to witness it, is he still wrong?

Matthew Grant

Matthew Grant

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Are we perhaps bored with guessing each year? My eating out this year has been curtailed somewhat due some family issues but I have had some good meals.

The Sportsman - if ever a "pub" deserved a Michelin star this is it.

The Greenhouse - If Michelin are unconcerned regarding Antonin Bonnet's short tenure then my one meal there was worthy of 2 stars.

I've probably jinxed those two now so I'll keep quiet about any other suspicions I have.

"Why would we want Children? What do they know about food?"

Winot

Winot

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Possible 1* for Pearl

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Possible star for the Wolseley

I probably don't eat out often enough to know much about this, but I agree that Pearl definitely deserves a star - had two cracking meals there this year (service way too slow though).

On the other hand, much as I love the Wolseley, I can't see how what is basically overpriced comfort food warrants a star. The service however is excellent.

BertieWooster

BertieWooster

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I'll be the first to say this: surely Anthony's will be recognised this year?

Well there's a spare in Leeds now that Pool Court has closed (and will J Baker's in York get one?), but I doubt it. They'll wait till the standard drops.

It no longer exists, but it was lovely.

Tom Roberts

Tom Roberts

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I agree with Matthew that The Greenhouse deserves a second star (although I only had one meal there this year so can't speak as to consistency).

I hope Arbutus gets a star - as many have noted it should if there is any justice in the world of Michelin!

L'atelier is less deserving but no doubt will get one.

I would like to see L'Enclume get a second star but think this is unlikely.

Hibiscus also deserves a third star although they will probably have to wait until after the move down south.

If a recent showing is anything to go by the Trouble House in Tetbury should lose its star.

Champagne Sadie

Champagne Sadie

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I hope Arbutus gets a star - as many have noted it should if there is any justice in the world of Michelin!

L'atelier is less deserving but no doubt will get one.

I would like to see L'Enclume get a second star but think this is unlikely.

Hibiscus also deserves a third star although they will probably have to wait until after the move down south.

Arbutus getting a star is highly likely, but undeserved.

L'atelier won't.

L'Enclume won't.

Hibiscus hasn't been the same since they had the baby. Won't get a 3rd star.

Just my pennies worth.

Gavin Convery

Gavin Convery

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Can't see Tom Aikens getting a 2nd star on the basis of the reports I've heard here and elsewhere.

Arbutus for a bib gourmand.

Couldn't see the Wolseley with a star.

Bacchus for a star! OK I don't really think it will get one - not sufficiently michelinny (?)

Has Galvin Bistro Deluxe got a BG?

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Gav

"A man tired of London..should move to Essex!"

ravelda

ravelda

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Galvin's Bistro Deluxe does indeed have a BG

I agree with you Champagne Sadie that Arbutus doesn't deserve a star, IMHO it should be a BG - interesting that you feel L'atelier is a no chance - with the way Michelin work I would have thought it a guaranteed star

Re: Tom Aikens - despite what some reports say, I have had some fantastic meals there, and their bread and cheese board are truly divine!

If a man makes a statement and a woman is not around to witness it, is he still wrong?

RDB

RDB

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" Hibiscus hasn't been the same since they had the baby. Won't get a 3rd star. "

I would be very interested to know what you base this theory on and how you come to such a bizarre conclusion?

UP:

L'enclume 2*

Anthony's 1*

Sat Bains 2*

Midsummer House 3*

Mint (Dublin) 1*

DOWN:

Fat Duck 2*

Locatelli's 0*

Gordon Ramsey2*

L'ecrivain 0*

Yes, yes, I like an outside bet :rolleyes:

Champagne Sadie

Champagne Sadie

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" Hibiscus hasn't been the same since they had the baby. Won't get a 3rd star. "

I would be very interested to know what you base this theory on and how you come to such a bizarre conclusion?

Er, that would be by eating there very regularly over the last 4 years. How else would I know? :wacko:

Simon_S

Simon_S

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UP:

Mint (Dublin) 1*

I think it deserves it, but I doubt it will get it. I think it's too soon, but I hope I'm proved wrong.

DOWN:

Fat Duck 2*

Locatelli's 0*

Gordon Ramsey2*

L'ecrivain 0*

:biggrin: Heh!

Si

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RDB

RDB

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" Hibiscus hasn't been the same since they had the baby. Won't get a 3rd star. "

I would be very interested to know what you base this theory on and how you come to such a bizarre conclusion?

Er, that would be by eating there very regularly over the last 4 years. How else would I know? :wacko:

As have I, but the question I am asking is how you can conclude the birth of a child is correlated with a restaurant not being as good? I have heard of restaurants slipping due to bad management, poor quality ingredients, sloppy service, high prices etc. But having a baby??

Again you may 'not think it the same' but how do you conclude it is due to having a baby. I am genuinely intrigued.

Basildog

Basildog

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That's a whole new thread "how having a baby affects performance"

1) lack of sleep (chefs don't get much anyway)

2) change in priorities (it's only food, i have created a human!)

3) mothers giving up work

3) can also be positive,"we have more responsibilties now,Must make sure we bring in the money eg you work harder.

of course this applies to any industry

ravelda

ravelda

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And Gordon Ramsay seemed not to trip up as his tribe were growing! In fact he went on to get his tree stars!

If a man makes a statement and a woman is not around to witness it, is he still wrong?

Champagne Sadie

Champagne Sadie

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" Hibiscus hasn't been the same since they had the baby. Won't get a 3rd star. "

I would be very interested to know what you base this theory on and how you come to such a bizarre conclusion?

Er, that would be by eating there very regularly over the last 4 years. How else would I know? :wacko:

Again you may 'not think it the same' but how do you conclude it is due to having a baby. I am genuinely intrigued.

OK.

Prior to the baby, Claude and Claire had the restaurant as their total focus - their “baby” so to speak. Every waking moment of theirs was spent in the restaurant, and Claude would spend many hours in the kitchen devising new recipes and experimenting with food. Meals I ate prior to the baby were outstanding, and at times had a significant amount of wow factor.

Since the baby, Claude and Claire spend more time together as a family unit, they’ve told me so. Many of the items on the menu are tried and tested older recipes, and a tasting menu taken this summer held no new dishes for me, when on previous visits every dish I ate would be a new dish.

Saying all this, I consider Hibiscus to be in my top 15 of worldwide restaurants, and I think that the move to London, coupled with increased competition will be the making of Claude.

I hope this is satisfactory.

Sadie.

Tom Roberts

Tom Roberts

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" UP:

L'enclume  2*

Anthony's 1*

Sat Bains 2*

Midsummer House 3*

Mint (Dublin) 1*"

I'm interested to hear that you think Sat Bains deserves a second star - I have heard a lot of good reviews of this place since it reopened following the change of ownership and refurb. I'm going in Feb and very much looking forward to it - have you tried the extended "surprise" or "bespoke" menus?

Matthew Grant

Matthew Grant

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I'd almost guarantee that Hibiscus won't get a 3rd star and it's nothing to do with the quality of the food, simply that they are about to move and will no doubt have advised Michelin. Michelin will probably hold off until they are settled in London.

Edited to add: I'll happily be proved wrong :smile:

Edited by Matthew Grant (log)

"Why would we want Children? What do they know about food?"

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