Ice cream makers/machines

[Amy D.]

21 hours ago, sverreef said:

 

I've had this happen once myself (but just barely visible). Do you remember which processing mode you used  when this happened? For me it happened when I selected the ice cream mode instead of light ice cream, which I normally use.

 

My theory is that the reduced rpm and shorter processing time of the ice cream mode resultsled in excessive torque on the spindle when it was used in conjunction with a hard and/or cold ice cream mixtures.

Mine was on ice cream mode too when it shredded. I've not had any issues since but I have been leaving my pots out for ten mins before I spin them as that seemed to be the internet's general suggestion to reduce chances of damage, added bonus that I dont seem to need to re-spin whereas before I was needed 2 respins so my freezer is probably quite cold

[Richard11]

We are looking for parts/supplies for a Meyer ice cream machine, model #M3H1107.

Can you point us in the right direction?

Thanks!

Edited August 20, 2024 by Smithy
Adjusted title for clarity (log)

[ElsieD]

EBay?

[Richard11]

ElsieD,

 

We've tried Ebay, but no luck so far.

[Mars]

Hey Lieuwe, 

 

I've seen a different version of this pop up on marketplace nearby and have been looking for ages for a reasonable price upgrade to my Musso Lello so that I can scale my business. This one is slightly different with the two buttons side by side - edit:  it appers to be the one in this promo video, I spose I should work out exactly what model it is first but it's fantastic info that they still might supply parts for it for another couple of years.

 

I checked your profile and you seemed to be really enjoying it aside from the minimum quantity you need to churn in it. Would you still recommend it?

 

Cheers,

Mars

 

On 12/28/2020 at 12:53 PM, Lieuwe said:

Two weeks ago, I bought an 18 year old Nemox Gelato 3000 pro. Although I still have to replace one part of the silicon scrapers, it already provides excellent ice cream. Therefore, can't wait for the package to come in on Tuesday: new scrapers and lid for the Nemox.

 

I bought it because it was clean, nothing was broken and the freezer and scrapers were still doing their job. What I've learned is that Nemox will still supply parts for this model for the next ten years. And, personally, I still expect it to work after that time. It took a while to find all documentation, but Nemox was happy to provide it, even though it was not present anymore on their site.

 

There is just one downfall: some parts are questionably expensive. For example, the 5mm wingnut on top would set me back $12. Ended up buying that one localy for 50c. Luckily, I didn't need to replace any expensive part. Expected the plastic lid to be expensive, but that one was the same price as the 5mm wingnut. Go figure...

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2024 by Mars (log)

[paulraphael]

Staff note: This post and responses to it have been split from the Home Made Ice Cream (2015–) topic to maintain topic focus.

 

On 1/26/2025 at 3:02 AM, JoNorvelleWalker said:

My first batch in the new KitchenAid ice cream attachment.  I chilled the bowl to -39C, the best my blast freezer could do. 

 

Your KA could handle a batch with the bowl chilled this low?

 

My freezer has a kind of blast mode (for rapidly freezing warm things). I tried it out, and it got the KA freezer bowl to maybe -25C. The ice cream froze so hard so quickly that the dasher stalled ... it has a clutch that's designed to slip if the torque gets too high, probably to keep the mixer from ripping the plastic dasher to bits. 

 

I ended up finishing the batch by taking the bowl off the mixer and turning the dasher with my hand. It was brutal!

 

I'm not doing this again. 

 

What happened with your batch?

 

Edited to add: can you talk more about your lab hot plate? I've been looking at these for a while now. What's its capacity?

[JoNorvelleWalker]

8 hours ago, paulraphael said:

Your KA could handle a batch with the bowl chilled this low?

 

My freezer has a kind of blast mode (for rapidly freezing warm things). I tried it out, and it got the KA freezer bowl to maybe -25C. The ice cream froze so hard so quickly that the dasher stalled ... it has a clutch that's designed to slip if the torque gets too high, probably to keep the mixer from ripping the plastic dasher to bits. 

 

I ended up finishing the batch by taking the bowl off the mixer and turning the dasher with my hand. It was brutal!

 

I'm not doing this again. 

 

What happened with your batch?

 

Edited to add: can you talk more about your lab hot plate? I've been looking at these for a while now. What's its capacity?

 

The KitchenAid I used is their commercial model, not sure if that makes a difference.  I admit I was worried about the clutch disengaging but it did not.  I wonder if it would help to start the KitchenAid on a slightly higher speed?

 

Two containers of my batch are in the -22C chest freezer.  The third container is in my tummy.

 

I have three ONiLAB laboratory stirrer hotplates.  Here is a link to the one used for the ice cream:

(eG-friendly Amazon.com link)

 

Stated capacity is 5 liters.  The Amazon product picture is apparently for a slightly different model.

 

[JoNorvelleWalker]

Here is a simpler, less expensive ONiLAB model I have that I would recommend for ice cream.  The controls are more straightforward and no one needs a maximum temperature of 380C for ice cream.  Well, at least no one that I know.

 

(eG-friendly Amazon.com link)

 

[paulraphael]

On 1/30/2025 at 9:42 PM, JoNorvelleWalker said:

 

The KitchenAid I used is their commercial model, not sure if that makes a difference.  I admit I was worried about the clutch disengaging but it did not.  I wonder if it would help to start the KitchenAid on a slightly higher speed?

 

Interesting. I use a Pro 600 which easily has enough torque to rip that plastic dasher to bits. My clutch just spun around making loud clicking noises, saving the dasher. 

 

I've actually filed the teeth on the clutch a bit to make it less slippy than it's supposed to be.

 

Maybe I got the bowl even colder than I remember?

 

What's your drawing temperature and residence time with the -22 bowl?

 

On 1/30/2025 at 9:42 PM, JoNorvelleWalker said:

I have three ONiLAB laboratory stirrer hotplates.  Here is a link to the one used for the ice cream:

(eG-friendly Amazon.com link)

 

Stated capacity is 5 liters.  The Amazon product picture is apparently for a slightly different model.

 

 

Thanks!

 

It's  hard to get a sense of the scale of these. Do you think the base is big enough to be stable with something like a 3L saucepan?

 

How much time does it take to heat ~1L of mix up to pasteurizing temps?

 

Edited February 3 by paulraphael (log)

[JoNorvelleWalker]

7 hours ago, paulraphael said:

 

Interesting. I use a Pro 600 which easily has enough torque to rip that plastic dasher to bits. My clutch just spun around making loud clicking noises, saving the dasher. 

 

I've actually filed the teeth on the clutch a bit to make it less slippy than it's supposed to be.

 

Maybe I got the bowl even colder than I remember?

 

What's your drawing temperature and residence time with the -22 bowl?

 

 

Thanks!

 

It's  hard to get a sense of the scale of these. Do you think the base is big enough to be stable with something like a 3L saucepan?

 

How much time does it take to heat ~1L of mix up to pasteurizing temps?

 

 

 

I did not test the bowl at -22C, only at -39C.

 

The heaters are sturdy.  I put a pot on the base to test, and the pot seemed stable.  But the stirring function would not work if you used a metal pot.  Why would you not want to use a beaker?

 

It took a long time to bring the mix to temperature.  Most of that was user error.  The heating function wasn't set to heat for much of the time!  One reason I recommended the model with the simpler, less complex design.  According to the manual there is a mode for rapid heating.  However the manual covers many models and I'm unsure whether any of mine even have that feature.

 

As a workaround you could simply heat the mix without temperature control, and then switch to the probe once target temperature is reached.

 

[paulraphael]

10 hours ago, JoNorvelleWalker said:

 

 

I did not test the bowl at -22C, only at -39C.

 

The heaters are sturdy.  I put a pot on the base to test, and the pot seemed stable.  But the stirring function would not work if you used a metal pot.  Why would you not want to use a beaker?

 

It took a long time to bring the mix to temperature.  Most of that was user error.  The heating function wasn't set to heat for much of the time!  One reason I recommended the model with the simpler, less complex design.  According to the manual there is a mode for rapid heating.  However the manual covers many models and I'm unsure whether any of mine even have that feature.

 

As a workaround you could simply heat the mix without temperature control, and then switch to the probe once target temperature is reached.

 

A reason to use a pot would be to get it up to temperature on the stove, and continue on the hot plate. I wonder if the lower temperature model has lower wattage and would be slower to heat a liter of ice cream mix.

 

I have stainless-lined copper pans that are non-magnetic. I don't see why these wouldn't work. Any ferrous / induction-capable pan would be a problem because the stirrer would just stick to the pan, but I think the copper will work. Anyway, that's why I'm curious about a pan being stable.

[JoNorvelleWalker]

1 hour ago, paulraphael said:

A reason to use a pot would be to get it up to temperature on the stove, and continue on the hot plate. I wonder if the lower temperature model has lower wattage and would be slower to heat a liter of ice cream mix.

 

I have stainless-lined copper pans that are non-magnetic. I don't see why these wouldn't work. Any ferrous / induction-capable pan would be a problem because the stirrer would just stick to the pan, but I think the copper will work. Anyway, that's why I'm curious about a pan being stable.

 

If pan size is an issue, ONiLAB and I'm sure other companies make stirrer hotplates that accommodate as much as 20 liters.

 

[paulraphael]

7 hours ago, JoNorvelleWalker said:

 

If pan size is an issue, ONiLAB and I'm sure other companies make stirrer hotplates that accommodate as much as 20 liters.

 

I'm just wondering how the ones you use would do with a typical 2 – 3L pan. Something maybe 7" in diameter. Would I be wise to get something bigger, or would these be ok?

[JoNorvelleWalker]

14 hours ago, paulraphael said:

I'm just wondering how the ones you use would do with a typical 2 – 3L pan. Something maybe 7" in diameter. Would I be wise to get something bigger, or would these be ok?

 

I think the size would be OK.