@kayb, you're the bomb! I'll get in touch if it comes to that!
@chileheadmike, I don't live in KC, I'm just there once every other year or so.
@pastrygirl, thanks. I know of 4505, but was thinking surely they were high. I appreciate the review from someone who's actually tasted them.
All that said, I do live in NYC, and need to just take my behind over to Queens and see what's happening in some of the meat shops.