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Evidently so. Don't you get it that telling people who keep kosher that their beliefs are incorrect is polemical and can be offensive? Certainly this topic is applicable to the many different peoples who keep some kind of restricted diet. There are McDonalds in India. What were they thinking? They were probably thinking that there are millions of Muslims and Christians who eat beef gladly. Also, I believe the McVeggie Burger or some such is popular in Indian McDonalds. McDonalds tailors their offerings to the market in every country where it has a presence.
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Again, it seems to you a silly conceit, but that's because you don't accept the opening premise. Judaism is a religion of laws that are interpreted according to arguments that are in many ways very logical - if you accept the opening premise and are then willing to "build a fence around the Torah" by following things to their logical conclusion even if you end up considering chicken meat for the purpose of the Biblical commandment "Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk." I really don't think eGullet is the place to argue with the opening premises of religions. If you don't find kashrut logical, don't keep kosher. People who really are strictly kosher don't eat anything that isn't kosher, period, except if necessary to avoid starvation or illness, and yes, that does involve pots and pans because what the laws deal with is a series of ritual separations of the ritually clean and the ritually unclean, milk and meat, Sabbath and the rest of the week, men and women, light and darkness, etc. Again: There is an internal logic to it. But eGullet isn't the place to talk about the anthropology of binary opposition, either.
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Well put. It should be brought up more often. It's an old Christian statement, one meant to justify violation of Kashrut - one of the things that caused the Jewish Christians to be considered heretics and split them off from the Jewish community. The context of the statement and its target cannot be ignored. It's one thing to make a personal choice about whether to restrict one's diet or not, and quite another to make polemical statements against Kashrut. I think we should be careful not to be disrespectful toward people's religious dietary laws. We don't have kosher-observers on eGullet upbraiding treif-eating Jews as sinners, so how about if all of us, Jew and non-Jew alike, don't belittle or otherwise argue against the observance of kashrut. I notice that the kosher-observers in this thread haven't taken offense, but nevertheless. Huh? Exactly how is this offensive? Did I miss something? Evidently so. Don't you get it that telling people who keep kosher that their beliefs are incorrect is polemical and can be offensive?
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At least, according to the this (Stewed Chicken with Dried Chestnuts) you pointed to the right book. Thanks, helenas. That looks like the recipe I was remembering. The cookbook has a blue hardcover and my mother's copy is in beat-up condition.
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Well put. It should be brought up more often. It's an old Christian statement, one meant to justify violation of Kashrut - one of the things that caused the Jewish Christians to be considered heretics and split them off from the Jewish community. The context of the statement and its target cannot be ignored. It's one thing to make a personal choice about whether to restrict one's diet or not, and quite another to make polemical statements against Kashrut. I think we should be careful not to be disrespectful toward people's religious dietary laws. We don't have kosher-observers on eGullet upbraiding treif-eating Jews as sinners, so how about if all of us, Jew and non-Jew alike, don't belittle or otherwise argue against the observance of kashrut. I notice that the kosher-observers in this thread haven't taken offense, but nevertheless.
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eG Foodblog: hillvalley - Back to normal eating.....
Pan replied to a topic in Food Traditions & Culture
You're positive he wasn't supposed to eat those things? -
Burgerland??
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The Beatles wanted Borscht? How about the Who wanted Hunan? Blues Traveler wanted Blue Point oysters? Chicago wanted deep-dish pizza. Boston wanted beans (not you, beans ). Wham wanted ham. Liszt wanted Quist. [Orlando di] Lasso wanted tasso. Tartini wanted Porcini. (But this is too easy with Italian names, isn't it?) Gounod wanted Pernod. OK, I think I'll quit...
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Swedish meatballs are indeed a Swedish recipe. Polish sausage is kielbasa and it is Polish. Welsh rarebit is indeed Welsh.
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That's a great point, Clifford.
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eG Foodblog: hillvalley - Back to normal eating.....
Pan replied to a topic in Food Traditions & Culture
Have a look at tommy's remarks in this thread. -
Thanks, Kris. Evidently, Japan imports cod from a bunch of places, but some are close to Japan (China, Korea, possibly Russia, depending on where they catch it).
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I thought Hong Kong was subtropical like Sarasota, Florida. Just how cold does it get there? I mean, Beijing has a real winter! Does it ever freeze in Hong Kong?
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Herb, try fish head some time. I can't agree with the Chinese that it has the best meat, but it's fun to eat. Yes, I do eat the eyes, but not the eyeballs. As you probably know, Malaysians - Chinese and Malay alike - often make dishes with fish heads. Curry fish head, asam (soured with tamarind) fish head, etc. Good stuff!
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Hmmm...My folks definitely have a cookbook that has a Chicken and Chestnuts recipe, but I guess I have the wrong cookbook in mind.
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Really weird-looking to me, but I'm an adventurous eater and would probably try it without much hesitation. I'd try that squid, too. I like squid. Are there codfish in the Sea of Japan or areas of the Atlantic not far from Japan?
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I forgot to mention that one of the Malay names for sweet potato is ubi stela. Ubi means tuber and stela is actually a shortened version of Castilla!
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That ika must taste a whole lot better than it looks. Anko, I like fish skin, too. Less skin for you!
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But not from theirs, which I think is the main point here. But I can understand Greek salad, since it has feta cheese and perhaps Greek olives in it. I imagine in Greece, it's probably just "salata," though. Is that right?
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There's a good recipe for chicken and chestnuts in Lilah Kan's cookbook (or the one my parents have, anyway). Nice hearty dish for winter, I think.
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Has the management or chef changed in the last 2 years or so?
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Doesn't the body metabolize alcohol into sugar pretty readily? Also, I have to say that when I have a drink, I really don't think about calories. I don't drink that much, but when I do, I want to enjoy it.
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I truly am amazed. The one time I went to that place for lunch was extremely underwhelming, including dim sum items. I'll dig up that review if anyone's interested, but it was a while ago and things could have indeed changed. Still, I'm not planning any trips to the Upper East Side for dim sum instead of Chinatown. Edit: Wait a second. Is this what used to be called Henry's Evergreen, or is that a different place? I think that was on 3rd Av.? It's very hard to keep track of the "Evergreens." Ray's Pizza, anyone?
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In Malay, the word for turkey is ayam Belanda ("Dutch chicken"), guinea pigs (not eaten by Malays!) are called tikus Belanda ("Dutch mice"), and watermelon used to be called timun Cina ("Chinese cucumber") but seems to be more and more called tembikai. Back in the 70's, peanuts were known as kacang Jawa ("Javanese beans"), but no-one seems to remember that anymore and they are now apparently universally called kacang tanah ("ground nuts"). These names have to do with who brought these items to the Malay Peninsula originally. We should also talk about Chinese names like xigua ("Western melon") for watermelon.
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eG Foodblog: hillvalley - Back to normal eating.....
Pan replied to a topic in Food Traditions & Culture
hillvalley, how old are your students?