MatthewB

tommy's so dreamy

tommy will do the search. Just PM him. He's recently been named as the official eGullet librarian & archivist.

My theory is still that Stone, unbeknownst to him, had a date with a PETA secret agent. She planted the 'pillars in his herb pots.

I can take a hint. :heads back to his bio thread:

I see your point. However, we do need some idea of the air/environmental quality of various environs. There's no accurate and/or comprehensive data. I don't think it would be all that complicated. Hell, we're already engaged in heavy-duty deficit spending.

Keep updating us, please, Hobbes. BTW, here's a link to Ohba's website.

But we're *not* getting data on other air/environment issues. I'm talking about setting priorities. I don't see this being done.

Oh, you could bet I would if it was in Chicago Don't limit yourself.

True, Sam. The biggest problem with this whole issue is that we don't have adequate empirical evidence concerning *how* bad second-hand smoke is. And further, how bad second-hand smoke is compared to other air contaminates or, for that matter, any other contaminates that the average person is exposed to. Common sense tells us one thing, but common sense isn't the same as empirical evidence. I have no doubt that second-hand smoke isn't good for one's health. But as far as *how bad,* the issue is contested.

Or, to rephrase it another way . . . I fail to understand how someone of reasonable intelligence could fail to understand that breathing in a shitload of big-city air on a daily basis is bad for your heath. For the health of us all, ban cities!

Oh great, here we go again.

Ahhhhh, the sweet sweet smells of civility.

If none of the above activities are appealing, we could do like many Grand Rapidians . . . Go to church Sunday AM & then to Russ' afterward. Which reminds me of a joke: "What's a Dutch girl's favorite w(h)ine?" "Daddy, I wanna go to Russ'." Edit: Wait, all the Russ' are closed on Sunday.

Stone, How'd your tobacco tea turn out?

Elizabeth, You should be offering to cater the dessert for this event.

More info here.

Absolutely. No conflicting with previously scheduled eGullet events.

These folks do some wonderful theatre.

Here's a popular destination. (Though I'd like to find the guy who's doing all the heirloom apple varieties in Ottawa County.)

Info on Frederik Meijer Botanical Gardens & Sculpture Park

Saugatuck's great. FWIW, if we do a winery thing, I'd vote for Tabor Hill. Paul Landeck & his family run the vineyard & the restaurant. Paul is the leader of the Slow Food Michiana Convivium & we could probably get him to do something special for us. (And get more people signed up as Slow Food USA members!) But that might be a different event as the destination is much closer to Chicago. (As far as time, if 94 isn't backed up.)

I wanted *you* to post your ideas. Which you did. On a pendantic note, there's nothing cheap about the GR Farmer's Market. Very inexpensive, yes. But not cheap.

i don't know if i should feel better about it. Just eat the damn things. And, be sure to tell us if you get ill.

Now we just need some of Rocco's ex-lovers to comment on his bedroom abilities.